Xland
Rocker Rollin'
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Post by Xland on Feb 4, 2017 14:24:04 GMT
My view is also the simple Francis will do what Francis will do etc.
Yeah not really a U-turn, we all saw through it last year and most of this year was already planned as people have said.
Looking forward to seeing what's on these new expanded editions.
The only version of Quo I'd support for any one offs, tour or new album would be Francis Rossi, Alan Lancaster, John Coghlan, Andrew Bown and a selected rhythm guitarist of your choice. That would be worth supporting as far as my selfish blues rock tastes go.
I will give any new Rossi solo stuff a chance, if it's good it's good, but if it's not it's not, I won't try and like it for the sake of it. I actually think the one with the female singer could be more interesting than him on his own, so I will wait and see with that.
The rest, I'm not really bothered about any more, they have sold out a bit too much and the last 3 albums in my view have been really poor.
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Feb 4, 2017 14:40:38 GMT
I will keep an eye out, curiousgirl ! Rumours say 15-16th of february....
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Feb 5, 2017 1:28:44 GMT
All a matter of semantics. The implication at the time of the announcement of this tour was that it would be the end of Quo 'electrically' and it would be aquatic(sic) all the way from then on. Quo and their management did nothing to contradict this so it will seem that Quo are going back on their word. Personally, as I wouldn't Quo to see the post FF reunion Quo, it matters not a jot to me. One thing I did wonder. If Francis worries about maintaining his standard of living, which I guess is fair enough, then why announce a last electric tour at all, bearing in mind Aquostic tours won't be massive money spinners? I think he is just really worn out by the back to back touring, he's been on about this since the 80s! I don't recall the "LOTE" plan being put down to Rick's health problems ... even they must have known a lot more about them than we did. That must have been SOMETHING to do with it, but it wasn't the whole reason. They are hoping to be able to keep the business going with the acoustic project, but they never claimed that they were never going to play electrics again, just that this was the last tour. (Whether that will turn out to be the case, we shall see ) My guess is that we will see Francis, Alan and John together again, however briefly, at some point, but I was wrong about the original reunion, so I am probably being irrationally optimistic now. Things have changed now since June, Rhino said they knew Rick was going to have another heart attack. It was inevitable so I think that was one of the reasons for the tour. They hoped to get through it without Rick having a problem but it was not to be. Francis and the others were concerned for Rick on one hand but s****g themselves over the future as they knew Rick was not insured against heart problems. The band had always added additional dates onto tours after the "offical" dates ended, so extra gigs were not a problem and until Dec 24th the pressure was off the band slightly as they knew the members were covered for incidents and were all in reasonable health. What happens next is uncharted territory as the band don't know what kind of reception they are going to get from the crowds. I think that the end plan was 2018. Francis will be 69 Andy will be 72, so I did not see them carrying on past that even if Rick had recovered to the point of getting back on stage.
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Post by jaynieeee on Feb 5, 2017 13:23:50 GMT
My view is also the simple Francis will do what Francis will do etc. Except Francis was meant to be the one who didn't want to the acoustic album to start with. Was it a way to prolong Rick's involvement and thus keep the band going? I think the end is much sooner than later. For all his (FR) no more FF he has said how he wants to hear X in someone else's set when he went as a fan (The Eagles?) and that may push him to a one off recording with the other two. Then looking after carp, annoying the gardener, some producing/writing, may an odd solo gig, if Ellen (spell?) is fed up with having him around (under her feet) all the time othwise he'll spend with family. He has always said he is insecure and there was something about a bad business deal but that was sometime ago and he doesn't appear to have an extravagant lifestyle, so unless something happened that didn't make it in to the press, it would looking after his brood.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Feb 5, 2017 17:43:50 GMT
I keep thinking the Rolling Stones are about to give up, but they don't seem to have managed it yet Mick and Keith are both 73 already. (Each, not combined.)
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Post by madtom on Feb 5, 2017 19:23:12 GMT
Rhino said they knew Rick was going to have another heart attack. If that's true then what does that say about the rest of the band? Going on tour with a ticking timebomb! They should knocked it on the head if they seriously thought Rick was at risk. Financial losses and whether or not they were committed to performing shows should have had no bearing whatsoever.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Feb 5, 2017 19:36:21 GMT
Rhino said they knew Rick was going to have another heart attack. If that's true then what does that say about the rest of the band? Going on tour with a ticking timebomb! They should knocked it on the head if they seriously thought Rick was at risk. Financial losses and whether or not they were committed to performing shows should have had no bearing whatsoever. Thing is though would you or anyone else have said to Rick. Were not going on tour because of X, most likely you would have been told where to get off. So no-one was going to win in this situation.
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Post by madtom on Feb 5, 2017 19:41:11 GMT
If that's true then what does that say about the rest of the band? Going on tour with a ticking timebomb! They should knocked it on the head if they seriously thought Rick was at risk. Financial losses and whether or not they were committed to performing shows should have had no bearing whatsoever. Thing is though would you or anyone else have said to Rick. Were not going on tour because of X, most likely you would have been told where to get off. So no-one was going to win in this situation. I'd like to think that, if I thought anything of him and was certain he would have a heart attack, I would stand by my guns and refuse to tour and to hell with the consequences. Rather he be pissed-off than having his chest pumped by paramedics and everything that followed. Think of it this way... Rossi had the power to single-handedly veto the FF, he could just have easily done the same with CQ to protect Rick.
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Post by jaynieeee on Feb 5, 2017 19:49:15 GMT
Thing is though would you or anyone else have said to Rick. Were not going on tour because of X, most likely you would have been told where to get off. So no-one was going to win in this situation. I'd like to think that, if I thought anything of him and was certain he would have a heart attack, I would stand by my guns and refuse to tour and to hell with the consequences. Rather he be pissed-off than having his chest pumped by paramedics and everything that followed. Think of it this way... Rossi had the power to single-handedly veto the FF, he could just have easily done the same with CQ to protect Rick. Rick was possibly safer on tour than off
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Post by madtom on Feb 5, 2017 20:01:02 GMT
I'd like to think that, if I thought anything of him and was certain he would have a heart attack, I would stand by my guns and refuse to tour and to hell with the consequences. Rather he be pissed-off than having his chest pumped by paramedics and everything that followed. Think of it this way... Rossi had the power to single-handedly veto the FF, he could just have easily done the same with CQ to protect Rick. Rick was possibly safer on tour than off Yes, that's a good point insofar as he probably didn't drink as much and would have been surrounded by people most of the time. Having said that, he wouldn't have had all the stress and physical exertion of touring if he had been at home.
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Post by jaynieeee on Feb 5, 2017 20:05:04 GMT
Rick was possibly safer on tour than off Yes, that's a good point insofar as he probably didn't drink as much and would have been surrounded by people most of the time. Having said that, he wouldn't have had all the stress and physical exertion of touring if he had been at home. Stress comes in many forms and from a magnitude of sources
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Post by viking55 on Feb 5, 2017 22:29:06 GMT
Maybe Rick himself was in a no win situation and HAD to tour for financial reasons. He certainly wasn't safer on Tour !! Turkey was the evidence of that ! People seem to think Royalties are the answer to all. But they sell very little these days and it ain't a sustainable income if you have put no cash in the bank behind you ! IMHO Rick had to carry on and if he had been fit enough he would still have been in the band but his health put paid to everything as we well sadly know. Sad but true !
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Feb 5, 2017 22:45:09 GMT
Maybe Rick himself was in a no win situation and HAD to tour for financial reasons. He certainly wasn't safer on Tour !! Turkey was the evidence of that ! People seem to think Royalties are the answer to all. But they sell very little these days and it ain't a sustainable income if you have put no cash in the bank behind you ! IMHO Rick had to carry on and if he had been fit enough he would still have been in the band but his health put paid to everything as we well sadly know. Sad but true ! They certianly help though. I was reading about Slade the other day and the 4 of them can't sit together anymore due to major arguments about money. Noddy and Jim are ok because of their Royalties, Dave and Don go out on tour to try and make some money. I think that Dave is the most bitter. He tours but has to give Noddy and Jim Royalty money for playing their songs but he does not make much money himself touring.
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Post by viking55 on Feb 6, 2017 10:22:32 GMT
Yeah but come on Slade Merry Xmas everybody kerching ! Quo have nothing to compete with there !
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Post by madtom on Feb 6, 2017 10:53:25 GMT
Maybe Rick himself was in a no win situation and HAD to tour for financial reasons. He certainly wasn't safer on Tour !! Turkey was the evidence of that ! People seem to think Royalties are the answer to all. But they sell very little these days and it ain't a sustainable income if you have put no cash in the bank behind you ! IMHO Rick had to carry on and if he had been fit enough he would still have been in the band but his health put paid to everything as we well sadly know. Sad but true ! Agreed, there's no way royalties alone would sustain a reasonable standard of living for them. Why else do these OAPs undertake tours? I'm pretty sure it's for the money rather than the adrenalin fix. If they were just doing it for the thrill of performing, the tours wouldn't be half as punishing and they wouldn't be doing corporate shows to non-Quo audiences like the one in Turkey.
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