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Post by Quoincidence on Feb 4, 2017 8:14:48 GMT
"My last few days have been spent writing a set of sleeve essays for the expanded editions of Quo's 'Blue For You', 'Just Supposin'' and 'Never Too Late'. What a complete gentleman Alan Lancaster is. Due to the fact that I am an incompetent technophobe our last Skype chat about was unusable, so Nuff just gave me another 45 mins of his time to re-do the thing from scratch.
Oh, and how utterly disrespectful for The Francis Rossi Band Now Trading As Status Quo to announce some non-'Aquostic' shows in the summertime. Remind us, what was The Last Night Of The Electrics about again? Francis can protest all he likes about maintaining his standard of living, but I find this latest U-turn impossible to swallow."
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Feb 4, 2017 9:06:17 GMT
Not really a u-turn though is it? Quo's gig schedule for this year is the same as it would be if Rick was still with us. We all saw through the fact that "last tour of the electrics" was never going to mean last show. As far as FR is concerned, a load of summer shows & festivals is not a tour, so long as each show is advertised individually.
In the last few weeks, I've seen fans saying SQ must carry on, if only to raise money for Rick's kids. Others say if they had any respect at all, they'd just stop.
I just don't have a view. Francis will do what he wants. It just doesn't matter any more, at least, not to me.
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Feb 4, 2017 9:08:24 GMT
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Post by derryquo on Feb 4, 2017 10:02:34 GMT
Not really a u-turn though is it? Quo's gig schedule for this year is the same as it would be if Rick was still with us. We all saw through the fact that "last tour of the electrics" was never going to mean last show. As far as FR is concerned, a load of summer shows & festivals is not a tour, so long as each show is advertised individually. In the last few weeks, I've seen fans saying SQ must carry on, if only to raise money for Rick's kids. Others say if they had any respect at all, they'd just stop. I just don't have a view. Francis will do what he wants. It just doesn't matter any more, at least, not to me. They have actually said the tour is continuing, if the promoter offers, they will tour U.K. again, hope not
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Post by 4th Chord on Feb 4, 2017 10:47:17 GMT
My last few days have been spent writing a set of sleeve essays for the expanded editions of Quo's 'Blue For You', 'Just Supposin'' and 'Never Too Late'. What a complete gentleman Alan Lancaster is. Due to the fact that I am an incompetent technophobe our last Skype chat about was unusable, so Nuff just gave me another 45 mins of his time to re-do the thing from scratch. Oh, and how utterly disrespectful for The Francis Rossi Band Now Trading As Status Quo to announce some non-'Aquostic' shows in the summertime. Remind us, what was The Last Night Of The Electrics about again? Francis can protest all he likes about maintaining his standard of living, but I find this latest U-turn impossible to swallow. www.daveling.co.uk/index.htmlMod Edit: originally posted in Quo links with replies. Threads merged.
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Post by tqontq on Feb 4, 2017 11:02:43 GMT
Echoes the thoughts of most of us.
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Post by curiousgirl on Feb 4, 2017 11:13:08 GMT
Having now heard that interview from 86 with Francis (posted recently by Quoincidence) none of this surprises me. I think its amazing they got away with it for so long. But then I never saw them live from then on. I gather they were quite good. Further down the link, Dave Ling notes that he's writing a tribute to Rick in a Swedish Rock magazine. 16 pages. Keep an eye out Swedish fans. I only know of Whoppa Choppa but I know there will be many others.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 13:19:54 GMT
Not really a u-turn though is it? Quo's gig schedule for this year is the same as it would be if Rick was still with us. We all saw through the fact that "last tour of the electrics" was never going to mean last show. As far as FR is concerned, a load of summer shows & festivals is not a tour, so long as each show is advertised individually. All a matter of semantics. The implication at the time of the announcement of this tour was that it would be the end of Quo 'electrically' and it would be aquatic(sic) all the way from then on. Quo and their management did nothing to contradict this so it will seem that Quo are going back on their word. Personally, as I wouldn't Quo to see the post FF reunion Quo, it matters not a jot to me. One thing I did wonder. If Francis worries about maintaining his standard of living, which I guess is fair enough, then why announce a last electric tour at all, bearing in mind Aquostic tours won't be massive money spinners?
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Post by jaynieeee on Feb 4, 2017 13:30:27 GMT
Not really a u-turn though is it? Quo's gig schedule for this year is the same as it would be if Rick was still with us. We all saw through the fact that "last tour of the electrics" was never going to mean last show. As far as FR is concerned, a load of summer shows & festivals is not a tour, so long as each show is advertised individually. All a matter of semantics. The implication at the time of the announcement of this tour was that it would be the end of Quo 'electrically' and it would be aquatic(sic) all the way from then on. Quo and their management did nothing to contradict this so it will seem that Quo are going back on their word. Personally, as I wouldn't Quo to see the post FF reunion Quo, it matters not a jot to me. One thing I did wonder. If Francis worries about maintaining his standard of living, which I guess is fair enough, then why announce a last electric tour at all, bearing in mind Aquostic tours won't be massive money spinners? Could there have been a break up/retirement of the band on the horizon?
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Feb 4, 2017 13:46:19 GMT
It was said right from the start of the "Last Electric" stuff they said there would still be one-offs. Regrettaly I have gone off Dave Ling, although he has written some good stuff. OK he's a "journo" so he can comment, but he calls this a U-turn and it isn't. In his professional position, calling this "utterly desrespectful" is personal name-calling and a poor show in my opinion. But in fact I went off him about a year ago for an entirely other reason - it seems he doesn't see the point of Trib bands and believes they are taking work away from "real" bands. Like, we can't play and listen to what we want, we need to toe his politically correct line. It's amazing how many people of our generation/s are turning into their own teachers/grandparents/snitty grownups
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 13:53:08 GMT
But in fact I went off him about a year ago for an entirely other reason - it seems he doesn't see the point of Trib bands and believes they are taking work away from "real" bands. Like, we can't play and listen to what we want, we need to toe his politically correct line. In that case, surely that's just his opinion, one that you can agree with or disregard as you see fit. I hardly see it as a divine directive or a politically correct line. Just what he personally believes. As for Quo, many fans and maybe the more 'casual' supporters believed the last tour would be the last chance to see the band in its usual form. And the one-offs keep piling up, they stop becoming one-offs, surely.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Feb 4, 2017 13:54:11 GMT
Not really a u-turn though is it? Quo's gig schedule for this year is the same as it would be if Rick was still with us. We all saw through the fact that "last tour of the electrics" was never going to mean last show. As far as FR is concerned, a load of summer shows & festivals is not a tour, so long as each show is advertised individually. All a matter of semantics. The implication at the time of the announcement of this tour was that it would be the end of Quo 'electrically' and it would be aquatic(sic) all the way from then on. Quo and their management did nothing to contradict this so it will seem that Quo are going back on their word. Personally, as I wouldn't Quo to see the post FF reunion Quo, it matters not a jot to me. One thing I did wonder. If Francis worries about maintaining his standard of living, which I guess is fair enough, then why announce a last electric tour at all, bearing in mind Aquostic tours won't be massive money spinners? I think he is just really worn out by the back to back touring, he's been on about this since the 80s! I don't recall the "LOTE" plan being put down to Rick's health problems ... even they must have known a lot more about them than we did. That must have been SOMETHING to do with it, but it wasn't the whole reason. They are hoping to be able to keep the business going with the acoustic project, but they never claimed that they were never going to play electrics again, just that this was the last tour. (Whether that will turn out to be the case, we shall see ) My guess is that we will see Francis, Alan and John together again, however briefly, at some point, but I was wrong about the original reunion, so I am probably being irrationally optimistic now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 13:59:27 GMT
All a matter of semantics. The implication at the time of the announcement of this tour was that it would be the end of Quo 'electrically' and it would be aquatic(sic) all the way from then on. Quo and their management did nothing to contradict this so it will seem that Quo are going back on their word. Personally, as I wouldn't Quo to see the post FF reunion Quo, it matters not a jot to me. One thing I did wonder. If Francis worries about maintaining his standard of living, which I guess is fair enough, then why announce a last electric tour at all, bearing in mind Aquostic tours won't be massive money spinners? I think he is just really worn out by the back to back touring, he's been on about this since the 80s! I don't recall the "LOTE" plan being put down to Rick's health problems ... even they must have known a lot more about them than we did. That must have been SOMETHING to do with it, but it wasn't the whole reason. They are hoping to be able to keep the business going with the acoustic project, but they never claimed that they were never going to play electrics again, just that this was the last tour. (Whether that will turn out to be the case, we shall see ) My guess is that we will see Francis, Alan and John together again, however briefly, at some point, but I was wrong about the original reunion, so I am probably being irrationally optimistic now. All seems fair, but Francis mentions often his desire to maintain his current lifestyle and he can't afford that if he doesn't work. It was also mentioned the Aquostic tours, with smaller venues and larger overheads, don't make that money. Now unless they had other non-obvious money making avenues (maybe the cruise aquostic tour would make a mint), I can't see the point of announcing the last electrical tour. Tiredness, boredom and health make sense, but I guess that's all trumped by cash. Which is fair enough.
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Feb 4, 2017 14:00:10 GMT
Instead of him talking a load of balls it'd be nice if he gave us the track list and when they're actually coming out.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Feb 4, 2017 14:17:51 GMT
I think he is just really worn out by the back to back touring, he's been on about this since the 80s! I don't recall the "LOTE" plan being put down to Rick's health problems ... even they must have known a lot more about them than we did. That must have been SOMETHING to do with it, but it wasn't the whole reason. They are hoping to be able to keep the business going with the acoustic project, but they never claimed that they were never going to play electrics again, just that this was the last tour. (Whether that will turn out to be the case, we shall see ) My guess is that we will see Francis, Alan and John together again, however briefly, at some point, but I was wrong about the original reunion, so I am probably being irrationally optimistic now. All seems fair, but Francis mentions often his desire to maintain his current lifestyle and he can't afford that if he doesn't work. It was also mentioned the Aquostic tours, with smaller venues and larger overheads, don't make that money. Now unless they had other non-obvious money making avenues (maybe the cruise aquostic tour would make a mint), I can't see the point of announcing the last electrical tour. Tiredness, boredom and health make sense, but I guess that's all trumped by cash. Which is fair enough. Better than being cashiered by Trump I have to agree it doesn't quite add up, but then things never do quite add up. Retirement doens't really make sense for Francis, but the chain touring is getting to be too much, so he has to find ways to diversify and, as you say, he's found that the alternatives don't have the same earning potential.
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