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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Jan 23, 2017 23:57:16 GMT
Had Coghlan not had enough in '81, how do you think it would've went? The 90s would've completely ended them I'd say.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 0:04:17 GMT
I doubt they'd have lasted that long, the cracks were already showing between Alan and Francis by the time John left and afterwards they really became chasms, especially with the involvement of Bernie Frost and his contributions to songwriting which really started to "popify" the sound faster than ever before, I doubt JC's influence could have made 1982 or Back To Back more palatable for Alan, so I think EOTR really would have been for the FF had they continued. Who knows if Francis, Rick and Andy would have carried on after as they did?
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Post by freewilly on Jan 24, 2017 9:26:14 GMT
Makes no odds....Francis would still have turned into what he has turned into.
Although, depends on management too. If they had known they got ripped off, they probably would have kept going. Also, the 90's with Oasis and all them, management could have marketed them better in terms of their influence on the "Britpop" sound...
Alas, we'll never know
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Jan 24, 2017 9:29:47 GMT
Makes no odds....Francis would still have turned into what he has turned into. Although, depends on management too. If they had known they got ripped off, they probably would have kept going. Also, the 90's with Oasis and all them, management could have marketed them better in terms of their influence on the "Britpop" sound... Alas, we'll never know Don't think that would have made much difference. remember Quoasis it was not a nice term, I think that would have been the case even if they had been marketed better. Two things ruined Quo Drugs mainly, plus too much touring and recording. I don't think many artitsts through the 70s released an album every year between 68-83. That is a lot of material to write and record without being on tour all the time. It was inevitable that cracks would appear. They were lucky to have lasted as long as they did, other bands held it together with solo albums. That luxury was never given to Quo. It would have helped the creative tensions if they had. |
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Post by freewilly on Jan 24, 2017 10:05:12 GMT
Makes no odds....Francis would still have turned into what he has turned into. Although, depends on management too. If they had known they got ripped off, they probably would have kept going. Also, the 90's with Oasis and all them, management could have marketed them better in terms of their influence on the "Britpop" sound... Alas, we'll never know Don't think that would have made much difference. remember Quoasis it was not a nice term, I think that would have been the case even if they had been marketed better. Two things ruined Quo Drugs mainly, plus too much touring and recording. I don't think many artitsts through the 70s released an album every year between 68-83. That is a lot of material to write and record without being on tour all the time. It was inevitable that cracks would appear. They were lucky to have lasted as long as they did, other bands held it together with solo albums. That luxury was never given to Quo. It would have helped the creative tensions if they had. ABBA recorded an album every year. Fell to shit, both musically and personally AC/DC too but, drummers fell out of line as opposed to the band
Queen lasted despite writing an album every year but, as you say, they done solo albums.
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Post by 4th Chord on Jan 24, 2017 12:32:11 GMT
Had Coghlan not had enough in '81, how do you think it would've went? The 90s would've completely ended them I'd say. Quo, like many rock bands, lost their audience in the mid to late eighties and the 'britpop' nineties. I have no doubt that they would have struggled commercially, FF or not, and maybe the covers albums kept them afloat, at the expense of any final shreds of 'credibility'. In many ways, I wish they'd been more successful individually, putting Quo in abatement for a long time, like the Eagles as an example, and then a big reunion of the band after 2000. I just wish the reunion had come a few years earlier than it did. All just water under the bridge now. |
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Jan 24, 2017 22:08:58 GMT
The strangest thing about Quo is that they have stayed together in some form and prospered. When they started, the only thing they really had in common was that they wanted to be pop stars. Same with Rick. We owe a great deal to the people who didn't buy their singles after POMM, and the slinky dancers in Germany. They gave the guys the rock and roll bug just when they needed it. We had them for years. But there was always the possibility it was going to peel apart again, musically. If Spud had not left, I think you are right, it would not have lasted the 90s. Maybe that would have resulted in solo stuff and an eventual real reunion, people have suggested that. But I am glad they went on playing. The albums lost it. That was already happening, but Quo Music went on.
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Post by Gaz on Jan 25, 2017 8:54:33 GMT
I wonder what would've happened if Quo cracked America, for example I wonder how far AC/DC would've gone if they hadn't cracked America.
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Post by freewilly on Jan 25, 2017 9:17:53 GMT
I wonder what would've happened if Quo cracked America, for example I wonder how far AC/DC would've gone if they hadn't cracked America. Assuming Bon still died, if BIB didn't crack America, they would have slowly faded.
3/4's of For Those About To Rock? Fly On The Wall? Who Made Who? Blow Up Your Video? Yeah......That's not the stuff great bands are made of
Half of The Razor's Edge and Ballbreaker are crap too.
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Post by Gaz on Jan 25, 2017 9:40:53 GMT
I wonder what would've happened if Quo cracked America, for example I wonder how far AC/DC would've gone if they hadn't cracked America. Assuming Bon still died, if BIB didn't crack America, they would have slowly faded.
3/4's of For Those About To Rock? Fly On The Wall? Who Made Who? Blow Up Your Video? Yeah......That's not the stuff great bands are made of
Half of The Razor's Edge and Ballbreaker are crap too.
First sentence spot on. IMO Quo had a fair head start on Accadacca back in '76-77. I saw DC quite a few times before they left Oz to take on UKs best. I also saw Quo, over here a couple times and without a doubt Quo were a way better band....so what happened? I still can't work out how DC overtook Quo and cracked the US big time. I only assume Quo had others bands with similar sound but DCs unique hard riff licks, along with the very unique Angus made them a stand out attraction for those Yanks hungry for rock. |
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Post by freewilly on Jan 25, 2017 9:46:12 GMT
Assuming Bon still died, if BIB didn't crack America, they would have slowly faded.
3/4's of For Those About To Rock? Fly On The Wall? Who Made Who? Blow Up Your Video? Yeah......That's not the stuff great bands are made of
Half of The Razor's Edge and Ballbreaker are crap too.
First sentence spot on. IMO Quo had a fair head start on Accadacca back in '76-77. I saw DC quite a few times before they left Oz to take on UKs best. I also saw Quo, over here a couple times and without a doubt Quo were a way better band....so what happened? I still can't work out how DC overtook Quo and cracked the US big time. I only assume Quo had others bands with similar sound but DCs unique hard riff licks, along with the very unique Angus made them a stand out attraction for a those Yanks hungry for rock. Number of factors I suppose.
The BIB album, Bon's death, they had a frontman, they toured there for years previously... Also, their music was straight out heavy rock, which Americans love.
It's like Queen. They were top of the world when Crazy Little Thing Called Love and Another One Bites The Dust were massive hits there. Disco/Funk and Rockabilly were also big things over there.....Then, they released Radio Ga Ga and I Want To Break Free and it fell to pieces because Americans hated that kind of stuff, especially the videos.
Also, think it has something to do with Francis' voice. Honestly think, if they kept producing albums like Piledriver and Quo, they would have cracked it
In terms of the rest of the world.....AC/DC overtook them because of the direction of the music changed with Quo, meaning worse albums, and JC and Alan were thrown out and replaced with.....Well, whatever adjective you want to describe Alan's replacement with
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Post by Gaz on Jan 25, 2017 10:04:10 GMT
First sentence spot on. IMO Quo had a fair head start on Accadacca back in '76-77. I saw DC quite a few times before they left Oz to take on UKs best. I also saw Quo, over here a couple times and without a doubt Quo were a way better band....so what happened? I still can't work out how DC overtook Quo and cracked the US big time. I only assume Quo had others bands with similar sound but DCs unique hard riff licks, along with the very unique Angus made them a stand out attraction for a those Yanks hungry for rock. Number of factors I suppose.
The BIB album, Bon's death, they had a frontman, they toured there for years previously... Also, their music was straight out heavy rock, which Americans love.
It's like Queen. They were top of the world when Crazy Little Thing Called Love and Another One Bites The Dust were massive hits there. Disco/Funk and Rockabilly were also big things over there.....Then, they released Radio Ga Ga and I Want To Break Free and it fell to pieces because Americans hated that kind of stuff, especially the videos.
Also, think it has something to do with Francis' voice. Honestly think, if they kept producing albums like Piledriver and Quo, they would have cracked it
In terms of the rest of the world.....AC/DC overtook them because of the direction of the music changed with Quo, meaning worse albums, and JC and Alan were thrown out and replaced with.....Well, whatever adjective you want to describe Alan's replacement with
Imo side by side Quo'd blow DC outa the hall back then so it's such a shame more Yanks never saw them. DC toured relentlessly as Angus only had eyes for the top. I read Mark Evans book(DC bass during their breakout years with Bon)..and he couldn't believe Angus's, and his older brother George( Easybeats) drive in conquering UK and Europe to then crack America. They only had eyes for the top. Shame Quo were happy to settle for Europe/Australasia. |
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Post by dennis on Jan 25, 2017 10:25:53 GMT
Imo, Quo's best work was behind them with the release of the Live! album. They limped into the '80s & the breakup started. After Live Aid they no longer even sounded much like Quo live, to me. However, the Quo name had to be sustained as Francis knew he couldn't succeed solo. Hardly surprising, seeing as he seems to have peaked as a song-writer by about 1974. Francis no longer wanted to be a "rock star" so dragged his band into bland strum along mediocrity - but then relied on all the old rock classics on the road! I've always been amazed that they sustained an audience over the last 30 odd years, but while people keep going they'll keep going through the motions. It is a tragedy the reunions didn't happen sooner, but then it's also a tragedy they let it all turn to shit in the first place.
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Post by curiousgirl on Jan 25, 2017 10:33:32 GMT
Imo, Quo's best work was behind them with the release of the Live! album. They limped into the '80s & the breakup started. After Live Aid they no longer even sounded much like Quo live, to me. However, the Quo name had to be sustained as Francis knew he couldn't succeed solo. Hardly surprising, seeing as he seems to have peaked as a song-writer by about 1974. Francis no longer wanted to be a "rock star" so dragged his band into bland strum along mediocrity - but then relied on all the old rock classics on the road! I've always been amazed that they sustained an audience over the last 30 odd years, but while people keep going they'll keep going through the motions. It is a tragedy the reunions didn't happen sooner, but then it's also a tragedy they let it all turn to shit in the first place. With the view of hindsight, I also wonder that if the reunions had happened earlier, then Quo would have ended then too. I don't think in 2003/04 say, Francis would have had a different view on the FF line that he did in 2013/14. So the fall out between him and Rick would probably still have happened. Only difference is that PLC Quo might have had a chance. |
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Post by dennis on Jan 25, 2017 11:16:47 GMT
Imo, Quo's best work was behind them with the release of the Live! album. They limped into the '80s & the breakup started. After Live Aid they no longer even sounded much like Quo live, to me. However, the Quo name had to be sustained as Francis knew he couldn't succeed solo. Hardly surprising, seeing as he seems to have peaked as a song-writer by about 1974. Francis no longer wanted to be a "rock star" so dragged his band into bland strum along mediocrity - but then relied on all the old rock classics on the road! I've always been amazed that they sustained an audience over the last 30 odd years, but while people keep going they'll keep going through the motions. It is a tragedy the reunions didn't happen sooner, but then it's also a tragedy they let it all turn to shit in the first place. With the view of hindsight, I also wonder that if the reunions had happened earlier, then Quo would have ended then too. I don't think in 2003/04 say, Francis would have had a different view on the FF line that he did in 2013/14. So the fall out between him and Rick would probably still have happened. Only difference is that PLC Quo might have had a chance. Highly likely - & the world would have been all the better for it. Francis is a control freak [NB: NOT a "perfectionist"!] & so he has been driven toward ever greater control of the band, but now he has complete control, due to the most unfortunate & unplanned circumstances, he won't be happy as, ultimately his dis-satisfaction arises from issues he has with himself. Hence his lack of respect for his own work, let alone that of his colleagues. Maybe one day, when he's finally comfortable with himself, he'll be able to look back objectively at his career & appreciate the level of achievement through the decades. |
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