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Post by derryquo on Jan 21, 2017 17:08:15 GMT
Be under no illusions, completely orchestrated, including the leak that 3 wives would be there, to promote more press interest. And then the fecking cheek to say it was private. Ffs it had a theme, arriving in the tour bus, photo of that nonsense band being taken together, it was a complete publicity stunt, and sadly really more about keeping that ridiculous band in the limelight.
As I said previously if I had been close by, I would have kept a discrete distance but I would have been there to pay respects.
On on another note, didn't actually see Porter there, perhaps as he was at the side feeding the press the names etc, or perhaps Lynsey banned him for the way they treated her husband...one can only speculate
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Post by cactuspete on Jan 21, 2017 17:45:16 GMT
The fact that his x wives were present,and members of the band attended doesn't mean it wasn't a private service!
Friends and family usually.
What's the problem?
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Post by freewilly on Jan 21, 2017 17:53:40 GMT
Be under no illusions, completely orchestrated, including the leak that 3 wives would be there, to promote more press interest. And then the fecking cheek to say it was private. Ffs it had a theme, arriving in the tour bus, photo of that nonsense band being taken together, it was a complete publicity stunt, and sadly really more about keeping that ridiculous band in the limelight. As I said previously if I had been close by, I would have kept a discrete distance but I would have been there to pay respects. On on another note, didn't actually see Porter there, perhaps as he was at the side feeding the press the names etc, or perhaps Lynsey banned him for the way they treated her husband...one can only speculate Actually, that's a very good question.... Where was Simon?
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Post by derryquo on Jan 21, 2017 18:05:24 GMT
The fact that his x wives were present,and members of the band attended doesn't mean it wasn't a private service! Friends and family usually. What's the problem? That's not what my point was.
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Post by clonesydney on Jan 21, 2017 18:13:26 GMT
Be under no illusions, completely orchestrated, including the leak that 3 wives would be there, to promote more press interest. And then the fecking cheek to say it was private. Ffs it had a theme, arriving in the tour bus, photo of that nonsense band being taken together, it was a complete publicity stunt, and sadly really more about keeping that ridiculous band in the limelight. As I said previously if I had been close by, I would have kept a discrete distance but I would have been there to pay respects. On on another note, didn't actually see Porter there, perhaps as he was at the side feeding the press the names etc, or perhaps Lynsey banned him for the way they treated her husband...one can only speculate Totally agree with you, I wouldn't be surprised if they handed out press packs. The band that calls itself Status Quo arriving together on the tour bus looks like a management stunt , the show must go on etc, but bloody hell the state of them particularly the totally dishevelled Rhino , who couldn't even manage to tuck his shirt in, and that ridiculous rhinoceros tie , what the hell was all that about at a funeral?
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Post by derryquo on Jan 21, 2017 18:17:58 GMT
Be under no illusions, completely orchestrated, including the leak that 3 wives would be there, to promote more press interest. And then the fecking cheek to say it was private. Ffs it had a theme, arriving in the tour bus, photo of that nonsense band being taken together, it was a complete publicity stunt, and sadly really more about keeping that ridiculous band in the limelight. As I said previously if I had been close by, I would have kept a discrete distance but I would have been there to pay respects. On on another note, didn't actually see Porter there, perhaps as he was at the side feeding the press the names etc, or perhaps Lynsey banned him for the way they treated her husband...one can only speculate Totally agree with you, I wouldn't be surprised if they handed out press packs. The band that calls itself Status Quo arriving together on the tour bus looks like a management stunt , the show must go on etc, but bloody hell the state of them particularly the totally dishevelled Rhino , who couldn't even manage to tuck his shirt in, and that ridiculous rhinoceros tie , what the hell was all that about at a funeral? I don't actually mind that rick got a rock star send off...I loved how they displayed the tele..it was how they said it was private and stay away whilst all long planning for the ongoing publicity of the band...and using the 3 wives to get the pr.. And yes rhino was rude and disrespectful.
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Post by curiousgirl on Jan 21, 2017 18:22:59 GMT
Hmmm. Rick was a public figure. There was always going to be press interest in it.
Another way of looking at this is that they put on a show - after all they are in show biz - rather than pretend the press weren't there.
I think to some extent, funerals are a public sharing of grief. They didn't want fans present because that puts an added strain on speaking to people you don't know when you're grieving. But I'm sure they always knew there was a public element to it. And a sense of an event. All funerals are like that. I've been to two last year, for non famous people, and they both had that element of theatre in them.
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Post by derryquo on Jan 21, 2017 18:30:15 GMT
Hmmm. Rick was a public figure. There was always going to be press interest in it. Another way of looking at this is that they put on a show - after all they are in show biz - rather than pretend the press weren't there. I think to some extent, funerals are a public sharing of grief. They didn't want fans present because that puts an added strain on speaking to people you don't know when you're grieving. But I'm sure they always knew there was a public element to it. And a sense of an event. All funerals are like that. I've been to two last year, for non famous people, and they both had that element of theatre in them. Again my issue is not so much they put on a show but the manner in which they did it. Sleazy story released to press to generate interest, staged photos etc, whilst having suggested that it was private, and knowing fine rightly that they were turning it into a media circus and not to promote ricks legacy but to keep that joke of a band in the limelight. .. Rick deserved a massive media lead send off for al the right reasons...
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Post by azza200 on Jan 21, 2017 18:38:08 GMT
Totally agree with you, I wouldn't be surprised if they handed out press packs. The band that calls itself Status Quo arriving together on the tour bus looks like a management stunt , the show must go on etc, but bloody hell the state of them particularly the totally dishevelled Rhino , who couldn't even manage to tuck his shirt in, and that ridiculous rhinoceros tie , what the hell was all that about at a funeral? I don't actually mind that rick got a rock star send off...I loved how they displayed the tele..it was how they said it was private and stay away whilst all long planning for the ongoing publicity of the band...and using the 3 wives to get the pr.. And yes rhino was rude and disrespectful. Rhino irked me with that smug grin on his face with that band photo of him Andy who look very upset Matt who was netural Rossi not so sure could of been a front for the cameras.
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Post by curiousgirl on Jan 21, 2017 18:40:32 GMT
Hmmm. Rick was a public figure. There was always going to be press interest in it. Another way of looking at this is that they put on a show - after all they are in show biz - rather than pretend the press weren't there. I think to some extent, funerals are a public sharing of grief. They didn't want fans present because that puts an added strain on speaking to people you don't know when you're grieving. But I'm sure they always knew there was a public element to it. And a sense of an event. All funerals are like that. I've been to two last year, for non famous people, and they both had that element of theatre in them. Again my issue is not so much they put on a show but the manner in which they did it. Sleazy story released to press to generate interest, staged photos etc, whilst having suggested that it was private, and knowing fine rightly that they were turning it into a media circus and not to promote ricks legacy but to keep that joke of a band in the limelight. .. Rick deserved a massive media lead send off for al the right reasons... DQ - I'm with you in your outrage about sleaze tabloid publicity leading up to the event. But I think you make some sweeping assumptions about how this was done. I'm not a famous person but I would not like to go to a funeral and face that bank of telephoto lenses snapping away as I walked into the funeral of someone I loved deeply. I watched - maybe foolishly - the press videos and the constant click of the telephoto lenses was a creepy soundtrack. If I was in the band, I might actually draw strength from having to put on a show, turn up in the tour bus and face them, when inside, I was in tears. These are showbiz professionals, they know how to do this in all kinds of circumstances. I have some experience of this but not at their level. The private element was to keep out fans. But photos have come out too, and not all from press sources. As for the sleaze element, I don't believe that is to do with management but about the tabloids knowing that sleaze sells. For all we know, they had journos ring up each of Rick's two ex-wives and ask them if they were going to attend. And once one paper lead with the story, they all followed suit. Anyway, I accept that I probably haven't changed your mind on this but I wanted to put it out here, that a) we don't know for sure why it happened in this way. And b) there can be other means which lead to the same end result.
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Post by freewilly on Jan 21, 2017 18:40:40 GMT
I won't lie, I thought the same when the band arrived in a tour bus. I thought it was very tacky.
I also thought Rhino and Rossi grinning and Rhino pinching his arse, when the photos were been taken, was distasteful and they let themselves down. Then again, when have they not let themselves down?
Andy Bown was dignified and a credit to himself. As was Matt and John but, they're top blokes.
I do hope Alan is alright. Missing Rick's funeral would be unthinkable for him so, I'm hoping he's OK
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Post by derryquo on Jan 21, 2017 18:45:45 GMT
Again my issue is not so much they put on a show but the manner in which they did it. Sleazy story released to press to generate interest, staged photos etc, whilst having suggested that it was private, and knowing fine rightly that they were turning it into a media circus and not to promote ricks legacy but to keep that joke of a band in the limelight. .. Rick deserved a massive media lead send off for al the right reasons... DQ - I'm with you in your outrage about sleaze tabloid publicity leading up to the event. But I think you make some sweeping assumptions about how this was done. I'm not a famous person but I would not like to go to a funeral and face that bank of telephoto lenses snapping away as I walked into the funeral of someone I loved deeply. I watched - maybe foolishly - the press videos and the constant click of the telephoto lenses was a creepy soundtrack. If I was in the band, I might actually draw strength from having to put on a show, turn up in the tour bus and face them, when inside, I was in tears. These are showbiz professionals, they know how to do this in all kinds of circumstances. I have some experience of this but not at their level. The private element was to keep out fans. But photos have come out too, and not all from press sources. As for the sleaze element, I don't believe that is to do with management but about the tabloids knowing that sleaze sells. For all we know, they had journos ring up each of Rick's two ex-wives and ask them if they were going to attend. And once one paper lead with the story, they all followed suit. Anyway, I accept that I probably haven't changed your mind on this but I wanted to put it out here, that a) we don't know for sure why it happened in this way. And b) there can be other means which lead to the same end result. Who else could have leaked about the three wives. Surely the attendance list was being managed centrally. And indeed I thought it was lovely that they were there, and no doubt that they all loved rick in different ways.. The pr from some over the years has been shocking and this stinks of the same machine
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Post by gav on Jan 21, 2017 18:49:38 GMT
Simon Porter was there, he's in one of the photos - I'll look for it later.
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Post by cactuspete on Jan 21, 2017 18:50:05 GMT
The fact that his x wives were present,and members of the band attended doesn't mean it wasn't a private service! Friends and family usually. What's the problem? no probs;still can't see what your objection is.
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Post by curiousgirl on Jan 21, 2017 18:56:07 GMT
derryquo How do you know for sure that this information was leaked? Journalists do have a habit of ringing people up and asking them questions. Is it not possible that a Mirror journo phoned these two ladies and asked them if they were going. And when they said yes, they thought, bingo. We have a story because of course his current wife would be there too. I'm not saying I'm correct about this but you sound so certain that there is only one single way this story was put together. And I'm saying that there isn't.
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