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Post by taximan2002 on Jan 26, 2017 23:51:10 GMT
It was one of the breakfast TV interviews. They were asking Francis about how Rick was he gave them the bare bones. Then said "Rick's going to be making a statement in the new year. He's asked us not to talk about him until then". Yeah, I heard that too, was just before the UK leg of the tour started..
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Post by Quoincidence on Jan 27, 2017 0:20:01 GMT
It was one of the breakfast TV interviews. They were asking Francis about how Rick was he gave them the bare bones. Then said "Rick's going to be making a statement in the new year. He's asked us not to talk about him until then". Yeah, I heard that too, was just before the UK leg of the tour started.. Was it not the interview with Richie? Can't find it anywhere but I remember it as well... At the end of the day Rick asked them not to mention him on stage so why should he? So what if they've been mates for 50 years... Rick requested not to be mentioned and rightly so Francis shouldn't need to say anything about him on stage, other than at this memorial gig to be announced! I don't get why there's the need for thread after thread of pointless nonsense
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Post by viking55 on Jan 27, 2017 20:37:56 GMT
Totally agree quoincidence. It only took the first reply after the opener for the usual suspects to engage in a bit of Rossi bashing ! Tiresome !
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Post by dontquoteme on Jan 28, 2017 2:23:26 GMT
Ok. First and foremost, I do respect everyones opinions on here but don't necessarily agree with a lot of what is said. I think the whole Rossi bashing thing is frankly, nothing but a waste of energy. I mean, what is to be gained by any of it? Does anyone actually think Rossi reads a lot of the negative drivel said about him on here? Bollox he does. It seems to me that a lot think that Rick was being edged out of Quo just as Alan and John were. The truth is that Rick had just had his lot of the current band. Marriages, friendships, business partnerships run their course. That's the way of things. Shit happens. And Ricks and Frames just did the same. The FF reunion gigs showed Rick what he was missing and what he wanted to get back to. Rick knew that Rossi and Ported called the shots so it was never going to be a case of 'you can leave frame'. Hence why Rick said he'd do his own thing in 2017. Despite the shy, insecure little show off persona that Rossi loves to portray, He has skin like elephant hide. For the last 3 decades he has acted as virtual 'CEO of Status Quo Ltd' accompanied by his crony, 'Managing Director Porter', and the 2 have run Quo's affairs as a business, trampling on anyone who opposed them, even the loyal army of fans. Look, I myself am a FF fan. I was born in the 70's but grew up in the 80s and as such I was too young to see the FF Live (grimacing) but I still had the privilege of getting to know their back catalogue and hearing those songs played live at many great gigs in the 80's 90'sand 00's. As such I think I've got a fairly balanced view of Quo through the years. Exciting and creative early in their career, yet slick and efficient in the latter years. Yes - there's arguments for and against what's gone on, but for Christ sake - Does it really matter if Frame says anything or not about Rick?? If he chooses not to, does that mean he never respected him or loved him? I'll readily call out anyone on here if they are deluded enough to think that he didn't give a stuff about Rick. Sure - Frame has got his detractors (I'm one of them to a point in that I don't like the way he comes over or the lite musical direction he took the band down) but you can't work with someone for nigh on 50 years and not grow attached to them. Ricks death will have hit Frame harder than any of us can understand. Course he will miss him terribly! And every time he will looks to his right in future gigs and sees young Malone, he will probably be thinking 'that's where Rick used to be' and there will be a lot of emotions running through him. But, the businessman that Rossi now is will also look at it pragmatically..., the machine still has to run, no matter in what name it is under (and yes there are credible arguments there too)
Rant over anyway...as I said at the top of this post, it's all about opinions, and whether mine are deemed to be right by some or utter BS by others, then I won't lose any sleep over it.
Whatever - we all LOVED Quo at some point or we wouldn't be debating the shit out of it on here...and we'll ALWAYS love dear Ricky. And I tell you all now - SO DID FRANCIS!!! Peace ✌️ to y'all.
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Post by freewilly on Jan 28, 2017 15:28:25 GMT
Totally agree quoincidence. It only took the first reply after the opener for the usual suspects to engage in a bit of Rossi bashing ! Tiresome ! Heaven forbid some of us don't like his actions and previous behaviour. That would be mental and pure evil to think he's not some sort of God
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Post by curiousgirl on Jan 28, 2017 16:44:33 GMT
Totally agree quoincidence. It only took the first reply after the opener for the usual suspects to engage in a bit of Rossi bashing ! Tiresome ! Heaven forbid some of us don't like his actions and previous behaviour. That would be mental and pure evil to think he's not some sort of God Errr, I agree that Francis is not god but I don't see that some of the fans who are upset about the anger towards him, see him in that light either. I'd say Viking is in this group. So, your last line is a bit OTT, don't you think?
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Post by 4th Chord on Jan 28, 2017 17:43:26 GMT
Heaven forbid some of us don't like his actions and previous behaviour. That would be mental and pure evil to think he's not some sort of God Errr, I agree that Francis is not god but I don't see that some of the fans who are upset about the anger towards him, see him in that light either. I'd say Viking is in this group. So, your last line is a bit OTT, don't you think? When has freewilly EVER been OTT?
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Post by clonesydney on Jan 28, 2017 17:53:57 GMT
Rossi was a key component of one of the greatest kick ass lads bands this country has produced.
He deserves all the credit in the world for that , as well as every bit of stick going for wrecking it.
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Post by freewilly on Jan 28, 2017 18:41:18 GMT
Heaven forbid some of us don't like his actions and previous behaviour. That would be mental and pure evil to think he's not some sort of God Errr, I agree that Francis is not god but I don't see that some of the fans who are upset about the anger towards him, see him in that light either. I'd say Viking is in this group. So, your last line is a bit OTT, don't you think? I'm cynical. I've seen people on FB blame everything on Alan and John and Rick and defend Rossi to the hilt. I've seen people have a meltdown over innocent remarks about Rossi "Rossi basher" is a pathetic term to describe anyone. People are just realists and are not blinding by smoke and mirrors. The guy basically admitted, in several interviews, that he was at fault for a lot of things.... Then he goes and says Alan apologised to him for everything. That makes zero sense. Likewise, he said recently he just wants to plug into a Vox and rock out as loud as possible, but he's been on a journey the last 30 years to write another version of Dancing Queen. I'm not out to convince anyone to like or hate Francis. There was a time when I admired him and looked up to him as a musician... But, sooner or later people have to realise he messed up big time and see what's been staring them in the face all this time
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Post by 4th Chord on Jan 28, 2017 18:52:07 GMT
Errr, I agree that Francis is not god but I don't see that some of the fans who are upset about the anger towards him, see him in that light either. I'd say Viking is in this group. So, your last line is a bit OTT, don't you think? I'm cynical. I've seen people on FB blame everything on Alan and John and Rick and defend Rossi to the hilt. I've seen people have a meltdown over innocent remarks about Rossi "Rossi basher" is a pathetic term to describe anyone. People are just realists and are not blinding by smoke and mirrors. The guy basically admitted, in several interviews, that he was at fault for a lot of things.... Then he goes and says Alan apologised to him for everything. That makes zero sense. Likewise, he said recently he just wants to plug into a Vox and rock out as loud as possible, but he's been on a journey the last 30 years to write another version of Dancing Queen. I'm not out to convince anyone to like or hate Francis. There was a time when I admired him and looked up to him as a musician... But, sooner or later people have to realise he messed up big time and see what's been staring them in the face all this time None of them were saints. Four of them, each with their own personality disorder! All that matters is we fucking loved them. I don't know what would have happened if they hadn't split. May well have been the same lukewarm albums we've had since 1982. What I do know, is that I don't think ANY of them had the breadth of talent to succeed alone. The magic only happened with the four of them, greater than the sum of their parts. Unmatched at what they did.
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Post by freewilly on Jan 28, 2017 18:58:12 GMT
I'm cynical. I've seen people on FB blame everything on Alan and John and Rick and defend Rossi to the hilt. I've seen people have a meltdown over innocent remarks about Rossi "Rossi basher" is a pathetic term to describe anyone. People are just realists and are not blinding by smoke and mirrors. The guy basically admitted, in several interviews, that he was at fault for a lot of things.... Then he goes and says Alan apologised to him for everything. That makes zero sense. Likewise, he said recently he just wants to plug into a Vox and rock out as loud as possible, but he's been on a journey the last 30 years to write another version of Dancing Queen. I'm not out to convince anyone to like or hate Francis. There was a time when I admired him and looked up to him as a musician... But, sooner or later people have to realise he messed up big time and see what's been staring them in the face all this time None of them were saints. Four of them, each with their own personality disorder! All that matters is we fucking loved them. I don't know what would have happened if they hadn't split. May well have been the same lukewarm albums we've had since 1982. What I do know, is that I don't think ANY of them had the breadth of talent to succeed alone. The magic only happened with the four of them, greater than the sum of their parts. Unmatched at what they did. Rick might have, purely for his voice alone. He had one of the best voices in Rock music and never seemed to be straining to hit the notes, as if it was effortless.
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Post by dontquoteme on Jan 28, 2017 19:39:17 GMT
Smoke and mirrors, perhaps. Or sheer forgetfulness of what's been said? I think most of us are pretty good at that either intentionally or not...call it human frailty. Simple truth is that ALL of them have said things in recent times that appear to contradict their previous views.
A couple of nights ago I was reading the sleeve notes written by Dave Ling which came with the remasters. In the notes for 1982 there's a bit where Alan spoke to Record Mirror paper about the recording sessions, he talks about how fresh the sound felt, that he was proud of the approach they took in producing it themselves....then fast forward to the Hello Quo documentary and his views of 1982 are...shall we say, a tad different- 'Things weren't the same after John left, then we made the worst status quo album ever'
If Alan could change his mind/forget what he said/contradict himself...are we surprised in any way that frame does?
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Jan 28, 2017 19:52:11 GMT
I'm cynical. I've seen people on FB blame everything on Alan and John and Rick and defend Rossi to the hilt. I've seen people have a meltdown over innocent remarks about Rossi "Rossi basher" is a pathetic term to describe anyone. People are just realists and are not blinding by smoke and mirrors. The guy basically admitted, in several interviews, that he was at fault for a lot of things.... Then he goes and says Alan apologised to him for everything. That makes zero sense. Likewise, he said recently he just wants to plug into a Vox and rock out as loud as possible, but he's been on a journey the last 30 years to write another version of Dancing Queen. I'm not out to convince anyone to like or hate Francis. There was a time when I admired him and looked up to him as a musician... But, sooner or later people have to realise he messed up big time and see what's been staring them in the face all this time None of them were saints. Four of them, each with their own personality disorder! All that matters is we fucking loved them. I don't know what would have happened if they hadn't split. May well have been the same lukewarm albums we've had since 1982. What I do know, is that I don't think ANY of them had the breadth of talent to succeed alone. The magic only happened with the four of them, greater than the sum of their parts. Unmatched at what they did. It's like Queen, The 4 of them made some of the best music ever. Freddie had some minor solo success (when he was alive). He was the only one likely to make it as well. Brian May wonderful guitar player but his solo stuff is quite samey. Roger Taylor ditto and John Deacon packed it in.
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Post by curiousgirl on Jan 28, 2017 20:02:18 GMT
Errr, I agree that Francis is not god but I don't see that some of the fans who are upset about the anger towards him, see him in that light either. I'd say Viking is in this group. So, your last line is a bit OTT, don't you think? I'm cynical. I've seen people on FB blame everything on Alan and John and Rick and defend Rossi to the hilt. I've seen people have a meltdown over innocent remarks about Rossi "Rossi basher" is a pathetic term to describe anyone. People are just realists and are not blinding by smoke and mirrors. The guy basically admitted, in several interviews, that he was at fault for a lot of things.... Then he goes and says Alan apologised to him for everything. That makes zero sense. Likewise, he said recently he just wants to plug into a Vox and rock out as loud as possible, but he's been on a journey the last 30 years to write another version of Dancing Queen. I'm not out to convince anyone to like or hate Francis. There was a time when I admired him and looked up to him as a musician... But, sooner or later people have to realise he messed up big time and see what's been staring them in the face all this time I understand what you say FW. But... the people I think you are really arguing with are probably not members here, they're on fb. The members here who stick up for Francis are simply trying to address the balance, put both sides. I don't see the blind loyalty, you are understandably upset by. I think that's why I find the emotional out pouring a bit much at times. Your comment about Alan apologising to him for everything (as if it was Alan's fault) isn't quite how I remember he put it. I didn't hear that to mean he absolved himself of his own role in the split. For their friendship to be repaired, Alan had to acknowledge and apologise for this own part in the breakdown. And I'm sure Francis did likewise. Otherwise, they would never have become friends again. Does that make more sense to you now? And whilst I don't like the route he steered Quo in, I don't see that he messed up big time. What I do see is that he hurt a lot of people who loved the original 70s sound. I'm one of them. But I've come to terms with that now. If only we had a magic time machine which could also tell us that the FF sound would have been bigger and better than the newer Quo sound which has trundled on for the last 30 years. Then I'd agree with you 100%.
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Post by dontquoteme on Jan 28, 2017 20:04:38 GMT
None of them were saints. Four of them, each with their own personality disorder! All that matters is we fucking loved them. I don't know what would have happened if they hadn't split. May well have been the same lukewarm albums we've had since 1982. What I do know, is that I don't think ANY of them had the breadth of talent to succeed alone. The magic only happened with the four of them, greater than the sum of their parts. Unmatched at what they did. It's like Queen, The 4 of them made some of the best music ever. Freddie had some minor solo success (when he was alive). He was the only one likely to make it as well. Brian May wonderful guitar player but his solo stuff is quite samey. Roger Taylor ditto and John Deacon packed it in. Hmmm...I've got mr bad guy and I thought a lot of it was dreadful to be honest.,.Taylor's albums were better, particularly strange frontier, which had none other than RJ Parfitt playing and doing backing vocals on 'it's an illusion' which is a great track. I always thought that if Rick had done a solo album he would have had great success, his voice was far more classy than Rossi's.
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