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Post by vivfromcov on Jun 17, 2016 0:12:11 GMT
As much as I would have liked Quo to carry on forever (preferably reunion line up), I have to agree with you now. Rick, do the right thing and enjoy your retirement with your family. Fingers crossed for a speedy recovery x Seriously don't think Rick could enjoy his retirement sitting at home (albeit by a swimming pool in Spain) He'd get bored, fat, go on the wine and or fight with the wife. Rick loves been out playing the part of the Rock star on and off stage. and unless he can't physically get on stage and play he might as well continue if he's still enjoying it. His choice, I wish him well, Rock on Rick. Seriously it all depends on his state of health after this latest attack. I really hope he can recover enough to resume an active lifestyle but looking at that list of very full tour dates really worries me. They already planned to stop touring but I think they have made this year too gruelling and Freddie might have to step in full time. I wasn't suggesting Rick should give up playing completely, I know he eould get bored, but in an ideal world, maybe he could have short projects of Rock Star life in beteeen more prolongued periods of family life.
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Post by colmfoley on Jun 17, 2016 0:35:49 GMT
In an ideal world I have the perfect short Rock projected for him, once a year every year!! Get well Rick.
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Post by Gaz on Jun 17, 2016 1:05:48 GMT
Heart attack strike 3 and he's not out!! I guess its a blessing he has plenty of people with him most of the time to attend to the attack because every minute counts in these situations as the blood flow to the brain is critical. It must be a worry knowing 'the BIG one' could happen anytime and with those ones there's very little hope of survival so in that case I think health comes way ahead of finishing the electric tour. Although not to my taste, at least he has the acoustic side to fall back on to get his music fix....and maybe a cruise or two to think about. btw...I hope this situation doesn't lead to another stupid Freddie bashing exercise.
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Post by stusqo on Jun 17, 2016 1:32:19 GMT
Heart attack strike 3 and he's not out!! I guess its a blessing he has plenty of people with him most of the time to attend to the attack because every minute counts in these situations as the blood flow to the brain is critical. It must be a worry knowing 'the BIG one' could happen anytime and with those ones there's very little hope of survival so in that case I think health comes way ahead of finishing the electric tour. Although not to my taste, at least he has the acoustic side to fall back on to get his music fix....and maybe a cruise or two to think about. btw...I hope this situation doesn't lead to another stupid Freddie bashing exercise. Well said Gaz. On same page , finally. Rockon Wilquo
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Post by rockonquo on Jun 17, 2016 1:34:17 GMT
Hope you have a quick recovery, & after, get to do what you want to do Rick. quorp
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Jun 17, 2016 6:53:56 GMT
It's too soon for discussions and comments about Freddie,and compared to what's happened is irrelevant
Thinking of Rick and his family. Fingers crossed for speedy recovery
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Post by georges on Jun 17, 2016 7:15:23 GMT
too sad, get well Rick and hopefully we can see you again very soon, have some rest with your family
Georges,
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 8:37:25 GMT
I hope that this signifies a family resting place for Rick and maybe he simply writes some songs from the comfort of his home Such an enforced proper retirement is now crucial for his future well-being ahead of risking yet another play of Russian roulette on stage. That is irrespective of it being this years 'last electric tour' or otherwise. Even an acoustic routine and gig schedule is now too much of a risk.
Hoping he recovers once more. Human fragility in a wild man of rock and roll after several coronary attacks is no shame when it comes to taking the safest option of resting at home where he can be looked after.
Medical advice/orders should be overwhelming by now surely. But I hope he takes the safest option - especially with such a rock legacy as he has over so many decades. He has nothing left to prove.
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Post by threechordboogie on Jun 17, 2016 11:27:25 GMT
It's not the premiums. My strong suspicion, reinforced by Freddie subbing in for him, is that his heart attack is not covered by insurance, therefore the show(s) MUST go on. That must surely knock Status Quo PLC on the head. There will be two elements to Freddie subbing for Rick, the first one as you pointed out is the difficulty of insurance, particularly as these summer gigs are different to an actual Quo Tour; a Quo Tour is an entity in its own right finance and run by Status Quo PLC. The summer gigs are very much 'one off' apperances where Quo are being paid by the organisers to play, quite often for specific fund raising causes. A Quo Tour will be insured via the promoter/Quo management, etc, whereas these one off gigs will be the responsibility of the individual organiser.
If Quo pull a gig on a tour they simply re-schedule for later, summer gigs/festival apperances are different.
As an example, this weekends concert is a weekend of events to raise money for flood victims, it is a charity fundraiser and is dependant on Quo playing, without them all the weeks of organising, planning, ticket selling, stage building, facilities building, crowd control, and volunteers will have done all of that for nothing, they will incur massive expenses, make a loss, and raise NOTHING for the flood victims.
If it was humanly possible for Rick to play he would, but obviously he can't so rather than pull the gig (and only achieve expenses for the charity) the rest of the band have no choice but to play, hence having Freddie played in ready just in case (I wouldn't be surprised if Freddie isn't also played in ready to cover Francis if needs be).
Obviously we don't know the terms of the booking but I wouldn't be surprised if Quo were doing this particular gig only for expenses to cover crew and transportation costs, this being the case they would feel even worse at having to pull the gig.
It is very plain to see that the guys cannot keep on going forever, Rick in particular has had so many health scares in recent years it is only logical that they call it a day with the electric set. Rick works hardest of all when playing and at 67 it has got to be taking its toll. We can only hope he pulls through this particular health blip, sees the rest of the year out with the electrics, and then has a long relaxing and happy retirement in the sun watching his kids grow up. I'm sure he will.
Your opinion is very interesting. It is not necessarily right, but not wrong either - we don't really know how these things work, we just take educated guesses. But I wonder how things would have panned out if Rick had broken his hand? Would Freddie be standing in for Rick then? A dispute arose a few years ago when L'wren Scott (Jagger's girl) died from suicide. The Stones claimed on their event insurance, but the insurers disputed the amount claimed. The article went on to explain about Event Insurance, and maintaining the focus on the Stones, explained the number of exclusion clauses surrounding cancellation because of illness or accident involving Keith Richards. "Insurers will not pay out if anything happens to Keith Richards related to "alcohol abuse, liver failure and/or disease and osteoarthritis". Nor will they pay if the guitarist becomes ill due to the injuries he sustained when he fell out of a coconut tree in Fiji in 2006 and required brain surgery."Link: Have they got Keith Richards coverage?
Link: Why the Rolling Stones’ insurance battle matters to mere mortalsThis led me to consider Quo's predicament. If Rick were to break his hand, insurance would probably cover the loss if Quo had to cancel. But because it's a heart attack, I suspect that is an excluded condition and thus not covered and so Quo cannot afford to cancel. Damned lucky to have Freddie around!
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Jun 17, 2016 20:55:23 GMT
Seriously don't think Rick could enjoy his retirement sitting at home (albeit by a swimming pool in Spain) He'd get bored, fat, go on the wine and or fight with the wife. Rick loves been out playing the part of the Rock star on and off stage. and unless he can't physically get on stage and play he might as well continue if he's still enjoying it. His choice, I wish him well, Rock on Rick. Seriously it all depends on his state of health after this latest attack. I really hope he can recover enough to resume an active lifestyle but looking at that list of very full tour dates really worries me. They already planned to stop touring but I think they have made this year too gruelling and Freddie might have to step in full time. I wasn't suggesting Rick should give up playing completely, I know he eould get bored, but in an ideal world, maybe he could have short projects of Rock Star life in beteeen more prolongued periods of family life. Just what I had in mind Viv.
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Post by frosty on Jun 18, 2016 0:54:43 GMT
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Post by madtom on Jun 18, 2016 1:13:01 GMT
Good old BBC News, a day behind everyone else
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 19:52:54 GMT
Hi All, I thought I had already posted but 'BRAIN FART'. doh
Anyway I am sure he is being taken good care of at the hospital and of coarse take it easy for however many months before even thinking about picking up his guitar again if ever ? All we can do is wish him well and think of all his family during this most stressful of times and hope he pulls through with a clean bill of health, come on Ricky let's be having you!!.....
What I am concerned about is his weight seemed to have just vanished, I know he was being a good boy with a goodish lifestyle nowadays. I found this photo (That I at least have never seen before-Courtesy the Daily Mirror)
His body looks painfully thin and it made me wonder if he hasn't lost too much weight too quickly ? Could this have had an adverse effect on his health that has resulted with this latest set back to him ? Even Frame looks fatter than Rick when it has always been the other way around with Francis being the skinny one in the band...
Geoff.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Jun 19, 2016 17:43:52 GMT
Latest news an update from Simon Porter regarding Rick:
I'm happy for you to report on my behalf that Rick was today flown to London by air ambulance. He is comfortable and further tests will be conducted this week. There is nothing else to add at this stage and wild speculation is both unhelpful and upsetting to all concerned. We will give a further update as soon as there is something factual to report.''
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2016 20:13:07 GMT
Hi All, Frosty, Thanks for the article and ditto with what Carl said welcome....
I must admit this made me giggle :-"Parfitt and Francis Rossi remain the best known names in a constantly evolving line-up" Not according to a few fans on here........
Geoff.
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