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Post by 4th Chord on Apr 17, 2024 13:11:45 GMT
What did you think? The band had semi-retired, as far as fans were concerned, after EOTR but then we had Live Aid so....
Fast forward a few months and we have this. Who are these new guys?
Then this. (Wait, another new drummer? 😉)
I remember thinking this isn't bad. Bit ZZ Topish. This might work!
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Post by roadhouse on Apr 17, 2024 13:14:32 GMT
What did you think? The band had semi-retired, as far as fans were concerned, after EOTR but then we had Live Aid so.... Fast forward a few months and we have this. Who are these new guys? Then this. (Wait, another new drummer? 😉) I remember thinking this isn't bad. Bit ZZ Topish. This might work! I always thought the Red Sky riff was stolen from Phil Lynott's track Nineteen, and just altered slightly. But yes I really liked Rollin' home and Red Sky.
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Post by mortified on Apr 17, 2024 13:21:56 GMT
Personally, I was delighted they were back and liked both singles. And was blown away with the Milton Keynes Medley and fully expected a live album. I can't actually remember how I found out about the two new members. I don't recall reading it. I think I may have seen them on TV first. That dockland thing in Liverpool around that time rings a bell. And me wondering who they were. I don't think I saw the video for Rollin' Home until the compilation video came out at the end of the year ( Rockin' Through The Years?) although I do sort of remember Kenney Jones in that TOTP appearance. It's all a bit vague Nurse, can I have my yoghurt and a digestive now?
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Post by roadhouse on Apr 17, 2024 13:27:14 GMT
If you compare the Nineteen riff to Red Sky, it's easy to imagine it was Rick's little nod to his mate Phil Lynott.
They did write a few songs together after all.
Nineteen was released the year before Red Sky was recorded.
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Post by nino on Apr 17, 2024 14:42:41 GMT
I know it's common among Quo fans but I just don't get the "Red Sky sounds like ZZ Top"-thing. Not in the slightest. It just doesn't. To my ears anyway Can't contribute much to the actual topic as I was born in 1990 but I like both songs, prefer Rollin' Home by far though.
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Post by mortified on Apr 17, 2024 15:13:59 GMT
These were two John David songs and I think I'm right in saying this was the first time he'd come to the table. First I'd noticed anyway. Quite a proportion of his songs, which were recorded by Quo, did turn out to be singles. There's never really been any explanation for that. Maybe there isn't one. But it may explain the Dave Edmunds connection. My immediate impression at the time was a ZZ Top comparison when I first heard Red Sky but, in retrospect, as nino says, there's not really that much similarity other than it was probably closer to ZZ Top than the Quo I'd known before it! Incidentally, was Red Sky the first time they'd used the crossed guitars logo? They used a different logo with Rollin' Home. Maybe trying them both out. Because, let's face it, this was the start of the marketing of the band as the Rossi/Parfitt show. Notwithstanding the fact it pretty much always had been. The marketing people were just taking advantage of it now.
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Post by roquer on Apr 17, 2024 15:41:04 GMT
I wish Red Sky was a real Quo song. A few days ago I was diddling with an IA "multitracking" tracks, and yes, it's like a ZZ Top song. The bass is a synth. Not a single not from a real bass.
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Post by roadhouse on Apr 17, 2024 17:34:16 GMT
These were two John David songs and I think I'm right in saying this was the first time he'd come to the table. First I'd noticed anyway. Quite a proportion of his songs, which were recorded by Quo, did turn out to be singles. There's never really been any explanation for that. Maybe there isn't one. But it may explain the Dave Edmunds connection. My immediate impression at the time was a ZZ Top comparison when I first heard Red Sky but, in retrospect, as nino says, there's not really that much similarity other than it was probably closer to ZZ Top than the Quo I'd known before it! Incidentally, was Red Sky the first time they'd used the crossed guitars logo? They used a different logo with Rollin' Home. Maybe trying them both out. Because, let's face it, this was the start of the marketing of the band as the Rossi/Parfitt show. Notwithstanding the fact it pretty much always had been. The marketing people were just taking advantage of it now. So could it be just be coincidence that the Red Sky opening riff sounds very simular to Lynott's song Nineteen? Nineteen came out late 85, and Rick probably heard it as he was working on songs with Phil in 85. Rick is on Phil's songs My father's son, and Kill. It just seems like it's so plausible to imagine Rick used and modified slightly the tempo from Nineteen. Incidentally a bit of useless information perhaps but the song Nineteen Phil wrote for his band Grand Slam, which was the band he formed in 84 after the break up of Thin Lizzy. It's possible even though John David wrote the lyrics that Rick used the riff he heard on Nineteen. Or I could be totally barking up the wrong tree. 🤔👀 Phil and Rick here:
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Post by allyp on Apr 17, 2024 17:38:05 GMT
Check this site out regarding John David’s work this particular album includes stuff Quo did 1986-2019 as well as one Rick covered on his posthumous solo album. johndavid.bandcamp.com/album/rollin-home
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Apr 17, 2024 18:28:55 GMT
I was delighted. The singles looked great and sounded Quo. I liked the b sides. Main reason for my delight wasnt the music it was the news of a tour. Army was my first, I'd been gutted to miss eotr
I also thought the album looked great. After that I felt that the bands image took a really bad hammering
Lonely is my fave track from those singles
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Post by Triggsy on Apr 17, 2024 18:45:34 GMT
Two great singles...and the Quo were back, or so we thought...the ITAN album was ok, the B sides/extra tracks were better than most of the Pip Williams produced album ones, then we got the continual 'spreading of the Quo wings' with regards to output...but later on we got David 'Publicity Stunt' Walker's Management and prostitution of the Quo name and legacy, but at least overall, the 80's were better than the 90's for Quo...just about
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Post by Victor on Apr 17, 2024 19:21:22 GMT
Loved Rollin' home and especially Red Sky...bought the album blindly...a mistake I never made again. Couldn't believe the album was the way it was compared to the two singles.
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Post by gav on Apr 17, 2024 21:03:49 GMT
I wish Red Sky was a real Quo song. A few days ago I was diddling with an IA "multitracking" tracks, and yes, it's like a ZZ Top song. The bass is a synth. Not a single not from a real bass. I remember thinking, even as an 11 year old, where's the bass gone? That lovely warm, thumping bass high in the mix that Alan played. If there was any real bass at all, it was blending seamlessly with the drums to the point you could barely hear it.
That's what i thought when i heard Rollin' Home and Red Sky.
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Post by matt on Apr 17, 2024 22:38:46 GMT
I remember army more than these two. It was my first quo single.
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Post by mortified on Apr 18, 2024 5:54:35 GMT
We can never know for certain, roadhouse . I can't find a recording of John David performing Red Sky so he may never have done so and just gave it to Quo. The riff is very similar but you get that with a lot of songs, Bad Boy Boogie and Wheels Of Steel for example. But your point about the timing could be relevant.
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