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Post by roquer on Apr 18, 2024 11:48:39 GMT
I wish Red Sky was a real Quo song. A few days ago I was diddling with an IA "multitracking" tracks, and yes, it's like a ZZ Top song. The bass is a synth. Not a single not from a real bass. I remember thinking, even as an 11 year old, where's the bass gone? That lovely warm, thumping bass high in the mix that Alan played. If there was any real bass at all, it was blending seamlessly with the drums to the point you could barely hear it.
That's what i thought when i heard Rollin' Home and Red Sky.
I find very interesting diddling with the IA about songs. I was listening to the "multitracks" of songs from the latter 80s, and for example Little Dreamer is one of those that have two basses, one synth, one real. As this is an IA extraction, I'm not sure if there's a real bass through all the song, but doesn't seem to. But yes, after Alan left, there's almost no bass compared, which maybe is something from the times, maybe is something Rossi tried to get rid of (probably, the latter)
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Post by tqontq on Apr 18, 2024 12:06:56 GMT
I quite liked the two singles to be honest. Not great but at least a 1000 times better than Margie Time and the bloody Blunderer. The B side Lonely and Keep Me Guessing really had me intrigued as it was a new Quo but a pretty cool sounding Quo. But then I saw the video of them prancing around in the desert in Dubai with the Groucho Marks duo and it was an instant let down. Talk about image not matching the music. I was young at the time (weren't we all) so image was very important to me. The new guys looked like bloody idiots and the very fact that Alan was cast aside really grated me - as none of us had any warning he had gone. I soon gave up on them and took off travelling around the world never caring to listen to the Quo Romantics again - until a year or so later I heard the Army album and that cemented my decision to disown them completely - thankfully in time before they really hit the bottom of the barrel.
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Post by railroad007 on Apr 18, 2024 19:08:48 GMT
These were two John David songs and I think I'm right in saying this was the first time he'd come to the table. First I'd noticed anyway. Quite a proportion of his songs, which were recorded by Quo, did turn out to be singles. There's never really been any explanation for that. Maybe there isn't one. But it may explain the Dave Edmunds connection. My immediate impression at the time was a ZZ Top comparison when I first heard Red Sky but, in retrospect, as nino says, there's not really that much similarity other than it was probably closer to ZZ Top than the Quo I'd known before it! Incidentally, was Red Sky the first time they'd used the crossed guitars logo? They used a different logo with Rollin' Home. Maybe trying them both out. Because, let's face it, this was the start of the marketing of the band as the Rossi/Parfitt show. Notwithstanding the fact it pretty much always had been. The marketing people were just taking advantage of it now. "the first time he'd come to the table" Oh do stop it Mort or we'll be "Running it up the flagpole and see who salutes"
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Post by railroad007 on Apr 18, 2024 19:17:45 GMT
I liked them both and what a result the Milton Keynes Medley was. I remember on a b side on some disc was a live version of Down Down, anyone know what disc? Oh wait a minute, it was the Caroline live 12 inch, a great disc.
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Post by Mustang Bass on Apr 18, 2024 20:13:12 GMT
These were two John David songs and I think I'm right in saying this was the first time he'd come to the table. First I'd noticed anyway. Quite a proportion of his songs, which were recorded by Quo, did turn out to be singles. There's never really been any explanation for that. Maybe there isn't one. But it may explain the Dave Edmunds connection. My immediate impression at the time was a ZZ Top comparison when I first heard Red Sky but, in retrospect, as nino says, there's not really that much similarity other than it was probably closer to ZZ Top than the Quo I'd known before it! Incidentally, was Red Sky the first time they'd used the crossed guitars logo? They used a different logo with Rollin' Home. Maybe trying them both out. Because, let's face it, this was the start of the marketing of the band as the Rossi/Parfitt show. Notwithstanding the fact it pretty much always had been. The marketing people were just taking advantage of it now. "the first time he'd come to the table" Oh do stop it Mort or we'll be "Running it up the flagpole and see who salutes" We need some blue sky thinking in here.
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Post by roadhouse on Apr 18, 2024 20:33:10 GMT
The biggest shock was the ex Rossi/Frost track Naughty girl, then renamed as Dreamin' peaking at 15 in the charts.
Its not a Quo song at all, yet who bought it to make it such a big hit?
Does that mean with the right promotion it could have been a hit for Rossi/Frost?
Classic case of using the bands name mee thinks 🤔
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 21, 2024 10:10:20 GMT
The biggest shock was the ex Rossi/Frost track Naughty girl, then renamed as Dreamin' peaking at 15 in the charts. Its not a Quo song at all, yet who bought it to make it such a big hit? Does that mean with the right promotion it could have been a hit for Rossi/Frost? Classic case of using the bands name mee thinks 🤔 Do we know for sure it was originally planned as a Rossi/Frost track? I thought that one was intended to be the new line-up's new single but the release was stopped due to an injunction from Alan. Imagine that would've been the comeback instead of "Rollin' Home"!
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Post by roquer on Apr 21, 2024 10:21:24 GMT
The biggest shock was the ex Rossi/Frost track Naughty girl, then renamed as Dreamin' peaking at 15 in the charts. Its not a Quo song at all, yet who bought it to make it such a big hit? Does that mean with the right promotion it could have been a hit for Rossi/Frost? Classic case of using the bands name mee thinks 🤔 Do we know for sure it was originally planned as a Rossi/Frost track? I thought that one was intended to be the new line-up's new single but the release was stopped due to an injunction from Alan. Imagine that would've been the comeback instead of "Rollin' Home"! I think Francis said so in the singles box about the song, but now I'm not so sure.
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Post by 4th Chord on Apr 21, 2024 10:40:49 GMT
These were two John David songs and I think I'm right in saying this was the first time he'd come to the table. First I'd noticed anyway. Quite a proportion of his songs, which were recorded by Quo, did turn out to be singles. There's never really been any explanation for that. Maybe there isn't one. But it may explain the Dave Edmunds connection. My immediate impression at the time was a ZZ Top comparison when I first heard Red Sky but, in retrospect, as nino says, there's not really that much similarity other than it was probably closer to ZZ Top than the Quo I'd known before it! Incidentally, was Red Sky the first time they'd used the crossed guitars logo? They used a different logo with Rollin' Home. Maybe trying them both out. Because, let's face it, this was the start of the marketing of the band as the Rossi/Parfitt show. Notwithstanding the fact it pretty much always had been. The marketing people were just taking advantage of it now. "the first time he'd come to the table" Oh do stop it Mort or we'll be "Running it up the flagpole and see who salutes" OK, let's run that up the flagpole and see what unfurls.
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Post by dennis on Apr 21, 2024 11:06:05 GMT
"the first time he'd come to the table" Oh do stop it Mort or we'll be "Running it up the flagpole and see who salutes" OK, let's run that up the flagpole and see what unfurls. I'd rather throw it at the wall & see what sticks
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Post by roadhouse on Apr 21, 2024 14:02:10 GMT
The biggest shock was the ex Rossi/Frost track Naughty girl, then renamed as Dreamin' peaking at 15 in the charts. Its not a Quo song at all, yet who bought it to make it such a big hit? Does that mean with the right promotion it could have been a hit for Rossi/Frost? Classic case of using the bands name mee thinks 🤔 Do we know for sure it was originally planned as a Rossi/Frost track? I thought that one was intended to be the new line-up's new single but the release was stopped due to an injunction from Alan. Imagine that would've been the comeback instead of "Rollin' Home"! I used to have a bootleg of the Rossi/Frost Flying Debris unreleased album, and Naughty Girl was on there.
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 21, 2024 15:33:23 GMT
Do we know for sure it was originally planned as a Rossi/Frost track? I thought that one was intended to be the new line-up's new single but the release was stopped due to an injunction from Alan. Imagine that would've been the comeback instead of "Rollin' Home"! I used to have a bootleg of the Rossi/Frost Flying Debris unreleased album, and Naughty Girl was on there. There is no bootleg of Flying Debris. It's a poor compilation put together of their tracks from that period, trying to pass it off as said album. Naughty Girl wasnt / isn't on Flying Debris
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Post by roadhouse on Apr 21, 2024 15:36:06 GMT
I used to have a bootleg of the Rossi/Frost Flying Debris unreleased album, and Naughty Girl was on there. There is no bootleg of Flying Debris. It's a poor compilation put together of their tracks from that period, trying to pass it off as said album. Naughty Girl wasnt / isn't on Flying Debris OK thanks for that. I just remember downloading it years ago, and it looked like the real thing, although obviously a bootleg of some sort. In hindsight a well put together home made version. So is there any info on the official unreleased album. Tracks info?
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Post by viza on Apr 22, 2024 22:42:20 GMT
When I heard Red Sky for the first time I thought it sounded very much as "No Contract". I still do.
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Post by shuffler on Apr 27, 2024 22:55:46 GMT
The 2 newly recruited members ruined Quo for me. Truly awful!
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