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Post by curiousgirl on Jul 21, 2019 8:49:01 GMT
On the last winter tour they played they could´nt sell out a seated Hammersmith Odeon and you could buy a few days before the show tickets for the half price. Yes, that is true. But for a promoter, a sell out is not essential to make a good profit. I think its about 75% sold. And even 50% is good. So Bluehighway is correct. They are still a good sell for a promoter. The other thing that occurs to me is that by not touring for a couple of Winters, if they do feel up to touring in 2020, then there may well be more demand again. As we say in English, "absence makes the heart grow fond."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 9:29:11 GMT
I wasn't referring to you. Up until Ricks last time out with the band they were still relatively good live in my opinion(remember that’s all this is,opinions ). The recorded output has been really weak since QPQ which contained a few great tracks(my opinion).BQ was shocking(my opinion)and the Acoustic lps awful(my opinion).The new songs from what I’ve heard I don’t particularly like,CMSL is ok.Having seen this latest line up twice I’m of the opinion that it doesn’t really sound like them anymore,with Ricks passing they are a shadow of themselves.The songs Rhino sings lead on are awful(I like his vocals in RR) and the key boards are too high in the mix.The rhythm guitar is too low and lacks the power it did with Rick(that’s not Richie’s fault). Again just my opinion. I don’t really know why I feel I should explain myself to you anyway but there you are.So I’m not miserable as you think,you don’t even know me,I’m quite happy actually and chilled out. Just passionate about the Quo I love and if that’s different to you then no problem.Remember it’s all opinions Cheers I actually agree with most of what you say, certainly about recent recorded output, though I do think Rick's role in the band live had diminished massively since the 80s due to the direction Francis took the band and latterly more due to his declining health and vocal problems. As you say I don't know you at all, I only know two members of this board personally, so I can only go by the tone in which you or anyone else express your opinions. Same for you reading my comments.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Jul 21, 2019 10:31:18 GMT
On the last winter tour they played they could´nt sell out a seated Hammersmith Odeon and you could buy a few days before the show tickets for the half price. And even cheaper after that :-) But there were some slightly unusual reasons for that, as those gigs were meant to be Aquostic to begin with and confused hell out of everyone. The previous tour which IIRR was the first one with Richie they were at the O2 in London and more or less filled the lower half (I don't think they've ever played there with the top tier open). If they'd just done that again, it would v been interesting to see what happened. The proof of the pudding now will be what happens after the new album. I have a feeling they won't go back to a regular tour again, but I would not like to bet on it.
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Jul 21, 2019 14:42:05 GMT
I think you read want you want to Mark I have never said Quo can do no wrong, find a post to the contrary. I merely still enjoy the band, live and on record, where as you don’t. Do I like all they do, not at all. Music evidently goes completely over your head. Depends how high the speakers are on the wall.
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Jul 21, 2019 16:42:21 GMT
Music evidently goes completely over your head. Depends how high the speakers are on the wall. Not as high as your expectations of everything that falls into the collective bog of Francis Rossi and his pub cover band troupe.
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Post by blagult on Jul 21, 2019 18:24:39 GMT
Think you will find the other band are the ones playing the pubs. Get your facts right 😂
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Jul 21, 2019 18:53:25 GMT
Depends how high the speakers are on the wall. Not as high as your expectations of everything that falls into the collective bog of Francis Rossi and his pub cover band troupe. Like blagult says, the band I prefer isn’t the one playing pubs, which means it must be yours.
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Jul 21, 2019 19:08:03 GMT
Not as high as your expectations of everything that falls into the collective bog of Francis Rossi and his pub cover band troupe. Like blagult says, the band I prefer isn’t the one playing pubs, which means it must be yours. Since you're ever so keen to be right and have everyone read every ounce of shite you post, it would appear you failed to notice my singling out of the other forgetful blokes in Rossi money maker. Unlike the grumpy git Rossi, Spud didn't have to result to pub gigs as some desperate idea from the management to promote an equally shite album. Status who?
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Post by Victor on Jul 21, 2019 19:56:30 GMT
Let's leave any personal insults out please people, any more of that will be deleted.
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Jul 21, 2019 19:57:00 GMT
Like blagult says, the band I prefer isn’t the one playing pubs, which means it must be yours. Since you're ever so keen to be right and have everyone read every ounce of shite you post, it would appear you failed to notice my singling out of the other forgetful blokes in Rossi money maker. Unlike the grumpy git Rossi, Spud didn't have to result to pub gigs as some desperate idea from the management to promote an equally shite album. Status who?
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Post by blagult on Jul 22, 2019 16:58:57 GMT
Seems to be a pattern that when Quo release anything new then the vitriolic content gets stronger towards Francis hence threads on all matters start getting out of hand and personal. It’s far easier to just say I don’t like it or I’m no longer a fan or it’s not a good idea. Better than what has just been penned in the last couple of days. and it wasnt s Rossi lover that started it. Hell yes the FF were better and great days. but that has been rammed home time and time again. Yes WE GET IT and I know ! And I agree going into the jungle is a bad idea. But sorry if it offends people but still buying the album and making my own judgement on it.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Jul 22, 2019 17:54:11 GMT
Seems to be a pattern that when Quo release anything new then the vitriolic content gets stronger towards Francis hence threads on all matters start getting out of hand and personal. It’s far easier to just say I don’t like it or I’m no longer a fan or it’s not a good idea. Better than what has just been penned in the last couple of days. and it wasnt s Rossi lover that started it. Hell yes the FF were better and great days. but that has been rammed home time and time again. Yes WE GET IT and I know ! And I agree going into the jungle is a bad idea. But sorry if it offends people but still buying the album and making my own judgement on it.
There will be one or two that don't, but virtually everyone who posts or looks in here will be listening to it. I think the vitriol towards Francis was especially strong in 2015/16/17. Partly (unfair) frustration because Francis wanted no more frantics, and partly because of his car crash comments about the reunions, former band mates and the "50% shite" 70's back catalogue.
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Post by Victor on Jul 22, 2019 18:17:57 GMT
Seems to be a pattern that when Quo release anything new then the vitriolic content gets stronger towards Francis hence threads on all matters start getting out of hand and personal. It’s far easier to just say I don’t like it or I’m no longer a fan or it’s not a good idea. Better than what has just been penned in the last couple of days. and it wasnt s Rossi lover that started it. Hell yes the FF were better and great days. but that has been rammed home time and time again. Yes WE GET IT and I know ! And I agree going into the jungle is a bad idea. But sorry if it offends people but still buying the album and making my own judgement on it.
There will be one or two that don't, but virtually everyone who posts or looks in here will be listening to it. I think the vitriol towards Francis was especially strong in 2015/16/17. Partly (unfair) frustration because Francis wanted no more frantics, and partly because of his car crash comments about the reunions, former band mates and the "50% shite" 70's back catalogue. In some ways it's all a bit two sided...I mean, the vitriol towards Francis for instance. I suppose one could say I am not completely free of that, god knows I have spewed enough critisism about his behaviors the last few years as well. Wrong ? Maybe. But to the points you just mentioned you can also add that he made some very unfair and plane insulting remarks about the fans who mainly love the older work which is the case for me. That is just something that can be pretty hard to take from someone in the band that used to be a hero for you... unrealistic, unreal ? Maybe. It just proves though how strong the connection between a fan and an artist can be. I certainly will be listening to the album and hoping for maybe at least a few good tracks I can still enjoy. But just realistic enough to think that some of it will likely be stuff that I won't enjoy. But yea, i'm curious and I will listen. I guess that even though feelings and thoughts about someone change a connection that one has had for over 30 years with someone as a fan can be very hard to totally break.
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Jul 22, 2019 23:34:37 GMT
Seems to be a pattern that when Quo release anything new then the vitriolic content gets stronger towards Francis hence threads on all matters start getting out of hand and personal. It’s far easier to just say I don’t like it or I’m no longer a fan or it’s not a good idea. Better than what has just been penned in the last couple of days. and it wasnt s Rossi lover that started it. Hell yes the FF were better and great days. but that has been rammed home time and time again. Yes WE GET IT and I know ! And I agree going into the jungle is a bad idea. But sorry if it offends people but still buying the album and making my own judgement on it. Alright folks, blagult doesn't like criticism so CUT IT OUT for Christ sake. Rossi is the virgin Mary.
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Post by curiousgirl on Jul 22, 2019 23:49:35 GMT
Seems to be a pattern that when Quo release anything new then the vitriolic content gets stronger towards Francis hence threads on all matters start getting out of hand and personal. It’s far easier to just say I don’t like it or I’m no longer a fan or it’s not a good idea. Better than what has just been penned in the last couple of days. and it wasnt s Rossi lover that started it. Hell yes the FF were better and great days. but that has been rammed home time and time again. Yes WE GET IT and I know ! And I agree going into the jungle is a bad idea. But sorry if it offends people but still buying the album and making my own judgement on it. Alright folks, blagult doesn't like criticism so CUT IT OUT for Christ sake. Rossi is the virgin Mary. Why do you have to make your views personal about another member? The person you have quoted hasn't made it about you. Oh, well, I guess this is your idea of a joke.
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