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Post by paradiseflats on May 6, 2017 14:56:54 GMT
It could of been great but falls short for me, prefer No Contract which shows Rossi didn't call all the shots.
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Post by dennis on May 6, 2017 15:03:27 GMT
Unless I'm mistaken, I'm pretty sure it wasn't Rick's, Alan's and John's idea to ditch rock and go the opposite direction so I've no clue what you mean by the last post Considering Francis wrote the vast majority of Thirsty Work and Perfect Remedy and dictated over Back to Back, I'm safe in the knowledge to know it wasn't Rick's idea and certainly not Alan's and John's So why did Rick and Alan write such rubbish after Never too late. Rossi forced them ? Also you take the music out of its historical context. Most bands tried to move towards melodic rock. Look at Saxon et al. Yes Francis led the band and in the wrong direction but perhaps Alan and Rick could have shown some back bone much earlier. After Never Too Late they proceeded to fuck up, collectively, by allowing the departure of John. That's the point at which they needed to show some backbone. Whatever they wrote after that was immaterial, imo.
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Post by dennis on May 6, 2017 15:08:13 GMT
From what i've read/surmised, Rossi was always the team player, pairing up with Bob then Bernie. So it'd be a bit easier for him to get his songs on albums in the eyes of the record company. It's known that Alan & Rick were competitive within Quo, and while Quo were at their peak, they were all trying to get a quota of songs on the albums. I would 'guess' that they both saw Rossi becoming more poppy and thought that the only way to get their songs on albums would be to dilute their own material. That said, it's not an exact science - rather a more subtle, gradual shift over time. IMO. It's a shame that the songwriting became split up in later years as they're all interesting, verstile writers in their own right. But it seems Rossi had the edge always favouring a co-writer, almost without exception. Not sure it's about 'backbone' as such. They (Alan & Rick) probably thought that if they didn't change/evolve, Quo's record sales would drop and they might even be dropped themselves. Also, the money! Again, a gradual realization. Rossi peaked as a songwriter by '75, imo. Maybe that's why they were subsequently all trying to write hit singles. Perhaps, in retrospect, it's a shame they didn't credit all songs as band compositions as a big part of their success was the development & arrangement of the songs by the whole band, regardless of who had originally written it.
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Post by cactuspete on May 6, 2017 17:25:45 GMT
Just listening to the four of them jamming together. I couldn't help but have a bit of a tear in my eye. At the same time I inevitably reflected on all those wasted years - the stupid bastards! not wasted years at all. It's recorded,played and remembered by many "an old fart" In their time arguably the best live band in the country. Loud,raw,rough to a degree but always on the "Fucking money" I get your drift about the tear in the eye,but they really couldn't of kept it going at that pace from 76 till the present moment. For younger fans who only know quo for the last 30 years or so. You were born too late to listen to a very seriously loud accomplished rick band.
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Post by dennis on May 6, 2017 18:32:53 GMT
Just listening to the four of them jamming together. I couldn't help but have a bit of a tear in my eye. At the same time I inevitably reflected on all those wasted years - the stupid bastards! not wasted years at all. It's recorded,played and remembered by many "an old fart" In their time arguably the best live band in the country. Loud,raw,rough to a degree but always on the "Fucking money" I get your drift about the tear in the eye,but they really couldn't of kept it going at that pace from 76 till the present moment. For younger fans who only know quo for the last 30 years or so. You were born too late to listen to a very seriously loud accomplished rick band. Well, it was over 30 years of the 4 of them not playing together - you may not feel that was a waste, I do. The subsequent line-ups were not a match or any where near it, although they were pretty decent live with Pete, imo. As for not keeping up the pace from the '70s, or course that's correct, but I'd still prefer to see the classic line-up slowing down a bit over the years - maybe even having a crack at acoustic - than not have them around at all. My only interest in the band for over a quarter of a century was wondering if they'd ever get back together again.
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Post by cactuspete on May 6, 2017 19:19:53 GMT
Contrary sod that I am.
Belive In my reply to your thread.
And your answer.
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