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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Apr 30, 2017 10:37:53 GMT
hard time, you don't own me, let's ride, for you. This isn't an album of bad songs, they all have that Quo feel, I've just chosen the ones that don't appeal to me so much. Never liked For You much, it's a peepy ballad that doesn't have the distinctive qualities of All The Reasons.
If I understood more about why Baby Boy is so much disliked, I would understand more about the Universe than I do. It's not like they never did a pop song before. I have a feeling it makes men nervous in some way. But that is just a wild guess.
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Apr 30, 2017 10:54:12 GMT
Dear Mrs. F. It doesn't make me nervous, but it doesn't appeal to me. At all. Just like the weak CGYM. RAOTW, never liked it, and Hard Time, stolen from another lamented fourpiece...  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 11:07:12 GMT
hard time, you don't own me, let's ride, for you. This isn't an album of bad songs, they all have that Quo feel, I've just chosen the ones that don't appeal to me so much. Never liked For You much, it's a peepy ballad that doesn't have the distinctive qualities of All The Reasons. If I understood more about why Baby Boy is so much disliked, I would understand more about the Universe than I do. It's not like they never did a pop song before. I have a feeling it makes men nervous in some way. But that is just a wild guess. I agree with what you say about Baby Boy. Its easy to see why many baulked at the song - its perceived very much as a "boys own" antipathy with its title and lyrics and way too much of a departure from what would automatically be expected from the FF.
Its not the best pop song they have done by any means, but certainly not the worst one either and I'm not going to choose it for these purposes.
So, to the choices. Hard Time (its ok but doesn't really go anywhere) You Don't Own Me) (ditto) and simply because it has become such a ridiculously over exposed karaoke anthem, RAOTW. That is also despite the fact that I actually loved the song back in the day and it was great live in the set on what was my first FF tour.
Lets Ride, which many seem to be choosing, I think is quite catchy and has that Quo energy even though it doesn't have any duh-de-duh in it. I remember Nicky Horne on Capital Radio played this one a lot at the time of album release and really liked it
Forgot the fourth choice! Will choose Too Far Gone for the same reasons as Hard Time and You Don't Own Me. Harmless enough but a bit ordinary.
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Post by slowtrain7 on Apr 30, 2017 11:11:32 GMT
First of all, the problem with this album is the terrible production by Pip Williams  QUO should've produced it themselves. The 3 songs I like the least are 1. Who Am I, it wreaks of PIP 2.Baby Boy, my mother likes it 3. CGYM, the version on RTYD was much better, produced by FRAME. I can only find 3 songs not 4. The Lancaster songs are great as usual. Rockers Rollin' is one of my fave QUO songs of all time, should've been a single in Australia. Same with Hold You Back. I can't speak highly enough of this song. I love Dirty Water, most people ( detractors) don't know that QUO play songs like this, if they did it would change their opinion of QUO. For You is a beautiful song by a beautiful man. Hard Time is a great song it just needed a better production, all songs needed more Bass, heavier guitar sounds, more everything. Turn it all up to 11, because it's one louder than 10, and give it more dobly, oh she means dolby  |
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Apr 30, 2017 11:16:33 GMT
hard time, you don't own me, let's ride, for you. This isn't an album of bad songs, they all have that Quo feel, I've just chosen the ones that don't appeal to me so much. Never liked For You much, it's a peepy ballad that doesn't have the distinctive qualities of All The Reasons. If I understood more about why Baby Boy is so much disliked, I would understand more about the Universe than I do. It's not like they never did a pop song before. I have a feeling it makes men nervous in some way. But that is just a wild guess. I agree with what you say about Baby Boy. Its easy to see why many baulked at the song - its perceived very much as a "boys own" antipathy with its title and lyrics and way too much of a departure from what would automatically be expected from the FF. I used to read Boys Own type comics and I don't recall any moody soul searching or stories about ladies and wine ... it was more noisy aeroplanes and people in landing craft beating up the enemies ... I get the second bit. Fans often argue that Quo were not a one trick pony and produced many and varied outputs, but clearly there is a Direction Too Far. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 11:16:38 GMT
Dear Mrs. F. It doesn't make me nervous, but it doesn't appeal to me. At all. Just like the weak CGYM. RAOTW, never liked it, and Hard Time, stolen from another lamented fourpice... Indeed, I wouldn't expect this of you M'Lord |
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Apr 30, 2017 11:19:26 GMT
Dear Mrs. F. It doesn't make me nervous, but it doesn't appeal to me. At all. Just like the weak CGYM. RAOTW, never liked it, and Hard Time, stolen from another lamented fourpice... I'm sure this is true for many, but Baby Boy has somehow become a Statistic in its own right .... the yellow line is off the side of my broswser screen! Rather like Big Man on 1982. There is some mysterious connection between these two Al can do no wrong, except, there was Big Man It's the opposite of Baby Boy in so many ways, except, lots of people hate it ... weird! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 11:21:45 GMT
I agree with what you say about Baby Boy. Its easy to see why many baulked at the song - its perceived very much as a "boys own" antipathy with its title and lyrics and way too much of a departure from what would automatically be expected from the FF. I used to read Boys Own type comments and I don't recall any moody soul searching or stories about ladies and wine ... it was more noisy aeroplanes and people in landing craft beating up the enemies ... I get the second bit. Fans often argue that Quo were not a one trick pony and produced many and varied outputs, but clearly there is a Direction Too Far. I meant that singing about being a baby boy/toys is not Boys Own in the sense of being opposite to being big strong grown up boys and jumping out of noisy aeroplanes or playing action men in landing craft 
Direction Too Far..or One Direction 
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Post by durango95 on Apr 30, 2017 12:10:49 GMT
Alans 3 songs + Quo's cover of Fogerty.
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Post by taximan2002 on Apr 30, 2017 12:42:06 GMT
Exactly! For me it has to be all 3 of Alans songs + Baby Boy For me, I personally love You Don't Own Me Never been keen on YDOM but the John Eden mix has made a great difference with that longer outro and essentially a new lead break... |
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Post by gav on Apr 30, 2017 21:18:36 GMT
Folk tend to home in on the pretty feeble production/mastering as the most obvious point of departure of the Quo sound.
Although the songwriting chartered new waters, it's the playing by all 4 (5) that's radically different. Coghlan is so much more percussive and gone is his densely splashy cymbal work - I read he enjoyed the recording of this album immensely. Rossi was apparently very much under the guidance of Pip Williams, to the extent that you sometimes feel you are listening to Pip channeled through Francis. Lancaster reveals himself to be extremely versatile and such an interesting writer that I think this was the beginning of him being ostracized from Quo creatively. Rick....well what can you say. He's perfect.
A 'production' for sure, and an experiment. Such a shame about the lightweight sound. The remix was great, but you can't create something that isn't there. They managed to get their Quo raunch back to an extent over the next few albums, but i daresay that this album paid off for them in the long run. Or, R & P, at least.
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Post by Tʰᵉ Wᵃˡˡ Oᶠ Dᵉᵃᵗʰ on Apr 30, 2017 22:04:29 GMT
I am voting:- Baby Boy - the worst song of the 70's - sounds like UB40. And such namby pamby lyrics - where are my Commando magazines?! RAOTW - a nice song, but a little bit naff, and it didn't really represent Quo - not surprised it followed WSOL. Like the way it contrasts Frame's unique solo style against Rick's Chuck Berry style. Too Far Gone - a tough Nuff song, made weedy by those dire synthy brass bits. Good solo though. Dirty Water - not a bad song, but Nuff really gets it wrong with the overly-countrified Holy Roller bassline. Quo should have done this more like FFF. On the plus side... Hard Time - the best song on RAOTW by a country mile. Should have been the live opener after JW went. Let's Ride and YDOM - Motorhead should have covered these Nuff songs - they reek of their early On Parole sound. Lemmy would have made them fantastic. For You - chimes like a bell, beautiful tone. Nice jazzy ballad, nice Rick vocal. Re On Parole: Yeah... Especially the tracks The Watcher and Lost Johnny. Musically they're off the same page. |
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Post by viza on May 1, 2017 7:25:53 GMT
On this album you can't vote with the motivation "It doesn't sound like Quo" 'cause nothing does. So I did just vote for the tracks that I think is a little bit weaker than the rest. Rockers Rollin: It's just the same from start to end, and the melody in the chorus, what is that? The weakest of all Parfitt compositions for years. Did also vote for Too far gone, For You and Dirty Water. I think Baby Boy is listenable and has a nice groove. Rockin' All Over The World may have been played too much but is an ok track even if it's just a cover. Best cover they did except for Roadhouse Blues.
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Post by charles on May 1, 2017 8:03:48 GMT
RAOTW and Dirty Water were easy, should have listened again but went for hard Time (too much of a plodder) and job done. Or so I thought when I read Gates's post. A fourth one? Shit.
I picked You Don't Own Me reluctantly, as I quite like it.
I've Always loved this album and the new mix has reinforced the sentiment. Rockers Rollin' is a beast!
Furthermore I really like Baby Boy, with John's elegant percussion and the beautiful melody. Let's Ride is another favourite: it's clever with a nice rhythm. Who Am I is simply stunning.
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Post by charles on May 1, 2017 8:06:50 GMT
Re On Parole: Yeah... Especially the tracks The Watcher and Lost Johnny. Musically they're off the same page. Lost Johnny is one of my all time favourites. It's hard to explain what it is, it might be some sense of longing, I don't know. |
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QUO should've produced it themselves.
