dontquoteme
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To Quo or not to Quo...that is the question
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Favourite Quo Album: QUO
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Post by dontquoteme on Apr 5, 2017 22:51:51 GMT
Pete was a very able drummer, no question about that. He did his best on a poor album with cack production which made his snare and toms sound like one of those first toy kits you get for your kids.
So felt sorry for him in a way as I saw what he was truly capable of when I watched the NEC 82 gig.
I've played drums on and off for thirty odd years, so in my opinion, the hierarchy of Quo's drummers (in terms of suiting the band) would go like this:
1 - JC
2 - ML
3 - PK
4 - LC
5 - JR
If we are talking about sheer technical drumming ability and mastery of the rudiments, then I would reorder it differently. Jeff Rich would be higher up the list as he was technically, very very good. Just didn't suit Quo at all.
JC, although a true master of the shuffle (and they are few and far between) did have some technical issues, despite having a jazz background. But they do tend to make great rock drummers (Neil Peart, Ginger Baker are probably the best examples).
That said, spud had great feel, plus phenomenal power and hand speed which were all perfectly suited to quo's early style.
He was the one who inspired me as a kid to start playing rock so I'm probably biased but who cares..
Cheers
Rob
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Post by Victor on Apr 6, 2017 0:14:42 GMT
Pete was a very able drummer, no question about that. He did his best on a poor album with cack production which made his snare and toms sound like one of those first toy kits you get for your kids. So felt sorry for him in a way as I saw what he was truly capable of when I watched the NEC 82 gig. I've played drums on and off for thirty odd years, so in my opinion, the hierarchy of Quo's drummers (in terms of suiting the band) would go like this: 1 - JC 2 - ML 3 - PK 4 - LC 5 - JR If we are talking about sheer technical drumming ability and mastery of the rudiments, then I would reorder it differently. Jeff Rich would be higher up the list as he was technically, very very good. Just didn't suit Quo at all. JC, although a true master of the shuffle (and they are few and far between) did have some technical issues, despite having a jazz background. But they do tend to make great rock drummers (Neil Peart, Ginger Baker are probably the best examples). That said, spud had great feel, plus phenomenal power and hand speed which were all perfectly suited to quo's early style. He was the one who inspired me as a kid to start playing rock so I'm probably biased but who cares.. Cheers Rob Very nice to read such a positive message about Pete for a change  I rate him vou said about John !ery high as well, even one spot higher on my list hen yours, for me he's absolutely the best drummer after John. I saw him live as well ans he was fantastic ! Also agree on every word you said about John ! |
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jim
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Post by jim on Apr 6, 2017 5:23:13 GMT
When I was 8 (and a huge Quo fan - my first ever gig was the EOTR tour at the NEC) my grandparents came back from holiday with a present for me - a Nik Kershaw T-shirt.
"He's in that band you like" they said. I hadn't the heart to tell them it was Pete Kircher 😂😂
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per
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Post by per on Apr 6, 2017 10:27:49 GMT
Pete was a very able drummer, no question about that. He did his best on a poor album with cack production which made his snare and toms sound like one of those first toy kits you get for your kids. So felt sorry for him in a way as I saw what he was truly capable of when I watched the NEC 82 gig. I've played drums on and off for thirty odd years, so in my opinion, the hierarchy of Quo's drummers (in terms of suiting the band) would go like this: 1 - JC 2 - ML 3 - PK 4 - LC 5 - JR If we are talking about sheer technical drumming ability and mastery of the rudiments, then I would reorder it differently. Jeff Rich would be higher up the list as he was technically, very very good. Just didn't suit Quo at all. JC, although a true master of the shuffle (and they are few and far between) did have some technical issues, despite having a jazz background. But they do tend to make great rock drummers (Neil Peart, Ginger Baker are probably the best examples). That said, spud had great feel, plus phenomenal power and hand speed which were all perfectly suited to quo's early style. He was the one who inspired me as a kid to start playing rock so I'm probably biased but who cares.. Cheers Rob I have been a drummer for almost forty years and I agree on every single word you write! Spot on! |
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Post by 4th Chord on Apr 6, 2017 11:28:38 GMT
When I was 8 (and a huge Quo fan - my first ever gig was the EOTR tour at the NEC) my grandparents came back from holiday with a present for me - a Nik Kershaw T-shirt. "He's in that band you like" they said. I hadn't the heart to tell them it was Pete Kircher 😂😂 |
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jim
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Post by jim on Apr 6, 2017 13:31:19 GMT
Ha ha, thanks for that 4th Chord - I didn't mind Wouldn't It Be Good and I Won't Let The Sun Go Down On Me. Didn't like him enough to wear a T-shirt though!! He had a worse mullet than Rhino 😂😂
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 6, 2017 18:33:52 GMT
Kircher had a fair bit of stick on the past few boards... but then again those commenting have probably never touched a drum kit in their life  |
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Post by slowtrain7 on Apr 8, 2017 4:30:12 GMT
The Demo version of WSOL is more QUO's style, though I doubt whether it would've been as successful as the released version.
The drumming on the Demo version is more to my liking.
The kick drum on the released version is a straight DISCO beat.
Coghlan is a very versatile drummer, under rated, just like RINGO STARR.
Beatles wouldn't have been as good without Ringo.
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Post by slowtrain7 on Apr 8, 2017 4:48:36 GMT
We can discuss/argue about why QUO parted ways with John and Alan til the cows come home. Moooo! I think Francis is a very conservative person who became very controlling of 'his' band. I've met and spoken with Rick a few times and I think he was a lovely guy who went with the flow, willing to try different styles of music. Alan, on the other hand wanted to maintain the tougher rock sound and he objected to Marguerita Time. Some of QUO's latter Rock albums I think Alan would like even love, you know the ones I mean.
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gav
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Favourite Quo Album: On The Level
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Post by gav on Apr 8, 2017 9:09:41 GMT
Can anyone confirm 100% that Roger Glover not only produced but also played bass on WSOL? Because I find Alan's style versatile enough that to my mind it could have been him. Always found the credits on this track a bit ambiguous.
Surely if Alan HAD been replaced on this one, it would've caused a bigger stink than the ORB and MT debacles?
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I rate him vou said about John !ery high as well, even one spot higher on my list hen yours, for me he's absolutely the best drummer after John. I saw him live as well ans he was fantastic ! Also agree on every word you said about John !
