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Post by dennis on Apr 2, 2017 22:27:34 GMT
John Coghlan or Pete Kircher. Fuck me, that's tough one. The man who was there, in the room...the man who played on the originals...and stamped his mark all over them... ...versus a man with strategically shaved sidebreezers who was doing a waalloper a favour. Dear oh dear. Imo, from Andy onwards, all the musicians who have "joined" Quo over the last 40 years or so are effectively hired hands - but I thought Pete did a good job on tour.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 22:29:26 GMT
Who do people think would have been a better fit for Quo rather than Pete? He was drafted in because he was free and they needed someone pronto and in my opinion he did a great job in the short time he had, replacing someone with such a distinct style as JC would always be difficult so if time hadn't been pressing who would you lot sooner have seen behind the kit?
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Post by dennis on Apr 2, 2017 22:43:24 GMT
Who do people think would have been a better fit for Quo rather than Pete? He was drafted in because he was free and they needed someone pronto and in my opinion he did a great job in the short time he had, replacing someone with such a distinct style as JC would always be difficult so if time hadn't been pressing who would you lot sooner have seen behind the kit? I would rather they forgot about the next album [1982] & tried to resolve some of the issue within the band. Letting John go was the end of the studio output of any quality, imo, & was the slippery slope towards Francis Rossi's Quo-style Show.
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Post by curiousgirl on Apr 2, 2017 22:45:07 GMT
Who do people think would have been a better fit for Quo rather than Pete? He was drafted in because he was free and they needed someone pronto and in my opinion he did a great job in the short time he had, replacing someone with such a distinct style as JC would always be difficult so if time hadn't been pressing who would you lot sooner have seen behind the kit? I would rather they forgot about the next album [1982] & tried to resolve some of the issue within the band. Letting John go was the end of the studio output of any quality, imo, & was the slippery slope towards Francis Rossi's Quo-style Show. I agree Dennis. However, I suspect the record company would have put pressure on them to continue. It may not all be the fault of the remaining band members.
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Post by dennis on Apr 2, 2017 22:52:36 GMT
Imo, from Andy onwards, all the musicians who have "joined" Quo over the last 40 years or so are effectively hired hands - but I thought Pete did a good job on tour. He did. That's not the issue. Anybody who thinks Kircher was a better drummer for Quo than the Lord Spud, falls into one of the following three categories: 1. They are under 40. 2. They know fuck all about playing the drums. 3. They are a hideous, argumentative, scarecrow prick with gingivitis and the intellectual capacity of a dug shit. It's that simple. I don't think any of the classic line-up could be adequately be replaced & still really be Quo, it was that combination of the four of them that had the magic - quite apparent during the reunions, rough as they were after the passage of over three decades apart.
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Post by dennis on Apr 2, 2017 22:56:37 GMT
I would rather they forgot about the next album [1982] & tried to resolve some of the issue within the band. Letting John go was the end of the studio output of any quality, imo, & was the slippery slope towards Francis Rossi's Quo-style Show. I agree Dennis. However, I suspect the record company would have put pressure on them to continue. It may not all be the fault of the remaining band members. That's where a band needs good management to help resolve tensions between the band & the record company & also between the band members.
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 2, 2017 23:27:39 GMT
I still don't understand why Pete gets a lot of stick for taking the gig with Quo?
It's not a case of Coghlan vs Kircher... Every drummer that joined Quo has brought their own style to the table, not trying to replicate or replace the last guy before them
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Post by markquo on Apr 3, 2017 17:00:30 GMT
I still don't understand why Pete gets a lot of stick for taking the gig with Quo? It's not a case of Coghlan vs Kircher... Every drummer that joined Quo has brought their own style to the table, not trying to replicate or replace the last guy before them Quos best drummer IMO Cheers
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Post by Victor on Apr 3, 2017 17:41:21 GMT
No one can touch John Coghlan. BUT: for me Pete was without a doubt the best drummer they had after John
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 18:51:20 GMT
No one can touch John Coghlan. BUT: for me Pete was without a doubt the best drummer they had after John Pete was very good for sure as replacement for John , but I always thought Matt brought something extra when he arrived with CQ many years later. - wonder how he would have slotted in (hypothetically) back then?
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Post by slowtrain7 on Apr 4, 2017 13:38:11 GMT
Yes Pete did play drums on 1982, it just sounded like a bad drum machine, recorded in the lavatory. Good onya Pete, wherever you are.
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Post by slowtrain7 on Apr 4, 2017 13:55:13 GMT
No one comes close to Lancaster and Coghlan. DDDDDDriftin' Awaaaaay!!!!!!!!!! Though all other members have their merits and I love them all on varying levels and for being a part of the QUO history. That's why I'm going to see the boys on 15th October at The Sydney Opera House. QUO are a major part of my life. Ever since I heard the piercing lead guitar notes of Matchstickmen emanating from my valve radio in '68, I've had an affinity with THE QUO.
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Post by makellysgreasydog on Apr 4, 2017 16:30:47 GMT
Pete seems to take far too much flak from messageboard trolls who want someone to blame for the band's change in sound and '80s decline, and who lack the intelligence to link these with what else was going on in the band at that time (band tensions, management problems, the old Niki Lauda, Alan moving to Aus etc) - the tone of some of the posts I see on here make me... vomit_100_107 it's no wonder PK didn't want to be part of Hello Quo or any reunion!
For what it's worth, the first Quo video I ever bought was EOTR. I was mesmerised by Pete's playing style and so it was he, not Spud, that inspired me to pick up drumsticks and learn to play for myself. Although JC remains a huge influence!
Pete did his best for Quo but was let down by the production style. Although I personally like the drum sounds on 1+9+8+2, it's the horrid guitar synths and helium vocals that really let the album down for me. But hey - 1982 was 35 years ago, people should get over themselves!
I would highly recommend a listen to some Honeybus, or Colin Hare, or Shanghai, or Original Mirrors if you get the chance. You won't fail to revise your opinions of Pete's drumming.
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Post by 4th Chord on Apr 4, 2017 17:05:34 GMT
I think it's fair to say there's plenty fans of Pete in this thread.
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Post by madtom on Apr 4, 2017 17:34:39 GMT
I don't recall anyone bad-mouthing Pete on here either. Like Davy says, people just say whether or not they preferred him to John. They speak very highly of him and I'm pretty sure nobody has ever said he was a bad drummer or blamed him for any of the band's perceived shortcomings... Francis, Porter and, to a lesser extent, Rhino seem to get most of the flak in that respect.
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