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Post by frozenhero on Mar 11, 2017 19:44:47 GMT
As others have said, he has a very unique style among rock guitarists. He's probably fooling himself saying he's no good but the truth is he's got lots of technique, he just doesn't use it properly these days except on studio albums. The 1973 "Is It Really Me/Gotta Go Home", as bad as it sounds, really shows what he's capable of - it's as good as Cream at their best, maybe even better. Music from another galaxy. Doesn't even sound anything like Quo at the time.
The problem is that he grew away from that style of playing rather quickly. If you compare the live recordings from 1973, 1975 and 1977 there is already a downward trend. Some of the solos on Tokyo Quo are almost as bad as the more recent solo caricatures.
I think that at least on record, he has also mostly had a great sound that really bites. GoGoGo is a recent example (a great solo anyway).
I don't care for Jimmy Page as a soloist AT ALL, by the way. He leaves me cold. Francis does not.
(I do think that Gary Moore, David Gilmour, B.B. King, Mark Knopfler and maybe Eric Clapton, Alex Lifeson and Carl Verheyen are better than him though.)
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 11, 2017 19:47:39 GMT
My older sister and her boyfriend of the time had the Physical Graffiti album. It seemed quite an eclectic mix actually. The best song I think is Kashmir. Probably my favourite Led Zep song. It didn't feature on that DVD unfortunately though - the footage on it seemed earlier than the PG album I went on a Greek Island holiday in the early 80's and remember Kashmir being played at a rock disco. They also played Quo's version of RHB from Piledriver as well as ROLD. Good night that was Just_Cuz_13 Kashmir is a great song. Thankfully it features no lead guitar whatsoever. The only song in which I really like Page's solo is "Black Dog". Just seems a notch above his usual 'constructions'.
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 11, 2017 21:13:47 GMT
Kashmir is a great song. Thankfully it features no lead guitar whatsoever. The only song in which I really like Page's solo is "Black Dog". Just seems a notch above his usual 'constructions'. Surely you rate... Not really. I mean, I can play this or Stairway and say, 'yeah that's nicely constructed' but that's it. Doesn't do much for me on an emotional level. It's blues without blues, if that makes any sense...
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Post by charles on Mar 11, 2017 23:00:06 GMT
Love Pagey. 'Don't Leave Me This Way' and 'Whisper a Prayer for the Dying' are only two examples of blistering blues with a whole lot of blues. Trust me, it makes sense.
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Post by mm1 on Mar 12, 2017 18:54:35 GMT
Not among the greatest guitarists when it comes to technic. In the later days he is a bit offhand in his playing. He can't even handle the notes in Caroline without overbend or put in unnecessary drills, often in combination. Maybe the reason for doing this is that he is fed up with the simple solos that is the type he can deliver. When he dares to play simple I think he has a unique tone and his own tonal language, and that is a very important thing! Well said.
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Post by mm1 on Mar 12, 2017 19:03:23 GMT
I could play "Stairway To Heaven" when I was 12. Jimmy Page didn't actually write it until he was 22. I think that says quite a lot. And he apparently ripped it off. Or. According to the judge. Only partially stolen. It's all on the net.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Mar 12, 2017 20:59:17 GMT
My older sister and her boyfriend of the time had the Physical Graffiti album. It seemed quite an eclectic mix actually. The best song I think is Kashmir. Probably my favourite Led Zep song. It didn't feature on that DVD unfortunately though - the footage on it seemed earlier than the PG album I went on a Greek Island holiday in the early 80's and remember Kashmir being played at a rock disco. They also played Quo's version of RHB from Piledriver as well as ROLD. Good night that was Just_Cuz_13 Kashmir is a great song. Thankfully it features no lead guitar whatsoever. The only song in which I really like Page's solo is "Black Dog". Just seems a notch above his usual 'constructions'. I think Kashmir has been more influential in real terms than Stairway or most other Zep compositions.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Mar 12, 2017 21:04:12 GMT
I could play "Stairway To Heaven" when I was 12. Jimmy Page didn't actually write it until he was 22. I think that says quite a lot. And he apparently ripped it off. Or. According to the judge. Only partially stolen. It's all on the net. Unless something new has happened since, the other side lost the case. Although, weird, the Zep team had to pay a hefty lump of costs. I don't get that: someone sues you, they lose, so you have to pay for part of the case. Weird.
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Post by wishing4oldquo on Mar 14, 2017 7:14:36 GMT
I am a rhythm guitarist and therefore don't have the same technical ability from which to critique FR, but even in my very modest band/musical experience I would say that I have played alongside some very good lead guitarists indeed, who haven't made a living out of their art - it's an insanely competitive field and despite the many "Rossi has always been underrated as a guitarist" type posts on message boards and YouTube down the years, I think that Rossi has been very clever in stretching a comparatively modest ability (in the context of the 'world stage') a long way. He was part of a great combination, his style of playing and his solos blended with the formula, he was great for Status Quo, nay, he has been perfect for Status Quo, and that's what matters.
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