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Post by Quoincidence on Mar 10, 2017 17:41:06 GMT
Quo's guitar sound has been shit for a while... too distorted and compressed for my liking This is possibly the best recording to hear the guitars on cause it's from the soundboard so no crowd
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Post by freewilly on Mar 10, 2017 17:49:58 GMT
Aye but, I've played with one of those before and it doesn't produce that sound... My Big Muff pedal produces a similar sound to Rossi's but, it's a lot nicer Statement of the day - freewilly's Big Muff is nicer than Francis Rossi's
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 17:58:07 GMT
I'm sure not a guitar expert, but I've always considered Led Zeppelin overrated and that includes Jimmy Page. I watched some Zeppelin DVD with my ex a few years back and he was positively foaming at the mouth but I just didn't get it In fact some of it was just a wailing noise including Robert Plant making some very strange shrieking sounds. That maybe had something to do with the absurdly obvious tightness of his trousers!
With all that in mind, I'd choose the melody and simplicity of Quo and Francis anytime. The beauty of the FF hey-day was the balance of power, energy and melody. There were no rock bands who could re-produce that. Led Zeps Rock and Roll was no match, imo, to any of Quo's own boogie.
Francis might not be the greatest player that has ever roamed the stage, but he is good and very distinctive in style. Probably underrated as much as the likes of Jimmy P is overrated.
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Mar 10, 2017 18:14:19 GMT
I'm sure not a guitar expert, but I've always considered Led Zeppelin overrated and that includes Jimmy Page. I watched some Zeppelin DVD with my ex a few years back and he was positively foaming at the mouth but I just didn't get it In fact some of it was just a wailing noise including Robert Plant making some very strange shrieking sounds. That maybe had something to do with the absurdly obvious tightness of his trousers!
With all that in mind, I'd choose the melody and simplicity of Quo and Francis anytime. The beauty of the FF hey-day was the balance of power, energy and melody. There were no rock bands who could re-produce that. Led Zeps Rock and Roll was no match, imo, to any of Quo's own boogie.
Francis might not be the greatest player that has ever roamed the stage, but he is good and very distinctive in style. Probably underrated as much as the likes of Jimmy P is overrated.
Zeppelin are indeed overrated pish. Plant's solo stuff is far superior in my opinion.
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Post by freewilly on Mar 10, 2017 18:24:39 GMT
I'm sure not a guitar expert, but I've always considered Led Zeppelin overrated and that includes Jimmy Page. I watched some Zeppelin DVD with my ex a few years back and he was positively foaming at the mouth but I just didn't get it In fact some of it was just a wailing noise including Robert Plant making some very strange shrieking sounds. That maybe had something to do with the absurdly obvious tightness of his trousers!
With all that in mind, I'd choose the melody and simplicity of Quo and Francis anytime. The beauty of the FF hey-day was the balance of power, energy and melody. There were no rock bands who could re-produce that. Led Zeps Rock and Roll was no match, imo, to any of Quo's own boogie.
Francis might not be the greatest player that has ever roamed the stage, but he is good and very distinctive in style. Probably underrated as much as the likes of Jimmy P is overrated.
Zeppelin are indeed overrated pish. Plant's solo stuff is far superior in my opinion. Agreed. They were good. No question about that but, they weren't what legend says they were
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 18:26:05 GMT
I'm sure not a guitar expert, but I've always considered Led Zeppelin overrated and that includes Jimmy Page. I watched some Zeppelin DVD with my ex a few years back and he was positively foaming at the mouth but I just didn't get it In fact some of it was just a wailing noise including Robert Plant making some very strange shrieking sounds. That maybe had something to do with the absurdly obvious tightness of his trousers!
With all that in mind, I'd choose the melody and simplicity of Quo and Francis anytime. The beauty of the FF hey-day was the balance of power, energy and melody. There were no rock bands who could re-produce that. Led Zeps Rock and Roll was no match, imo, to any of Quo's own boogie.
Francis might not be the greatest player that has ever roamed the stage, but he is good and very distinctive in style. Probably underrated as much as the likes of Jimmy P is overrated.
Zeppelin are indeed overrated pish. Plant's solo stuff is far superior in my opinion. Yes, I agree. I've preferred the solo stuff as well.
I also liked the album he did with Alison Krauss - an interesting pairing imo.
Francis spoke of being encouraged by Plants working with a female artist in respect of his own liking and preferences for singing with them.
He struggles beyond the Quo parameters though - he can't seem to expand beyond his brand of Euro pop boogie. Kind of a mix of very watered down Quo pop blended with Eurovision song contest I really don't think this helps him gain some of the credibility as a musician he might deserve otherwise
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Post by Victor on Mar 10, 2017 18:50:15 GMT
Francis has a unique ability imo to combine power and melody in his solos if he is in his good doing like on the old FF albums, without having to go into the ripping/shredding or 1000 notes per minute pish of some others
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Post by madtom on Mar 10, 2017 19:43:04 GMT
Agreed. They were good. No question about that but, they weren't what legend says they were I think a lot of that legend has been rewritten now - I remember when Led Zeppelin were unchallenged as the inventors of Heavy Metal - we have James Hetfield to thank for correcting that one. I thought Sabbath had that credit?
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Post by dontthinkitmatters on Mar 10, 2017 19:44:58 GMT
I could play "Stairway To Heaven" when I was 12. Jimmy Page didn't actually write it until he was 22. I think that says quite a lot.
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Post by madtom on Mar 10, 2017 19:46:16 GMT
I thought Sabbath had that credit? Now they do... Bloody hell, that was a quick response! Is that why you mentioned James, was it him that put the record straight?
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Mar 10, 2017 20:30:51 GMT
Sabbath and the Purps as well as Hendrix and Rev. B. Gibbons were much more influental to us players in my neck of the woods. For me, the "+L+I+V+E+" from them unfashionable ones you all know was the dogs bollox and my greatest influence, so I only know three chords, basically. Zep are for the snobs.... What they are missing out!
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Post by dennis on Mar 10, 2017 21:06:22 GMT
Say what you like about Zep - hype over substance, whatever - but "Physical Graffiti" is one of the best albums ever made by anyone. A multi-instrumentalist and genius in John Paul Jones, one of the greatest and most imitated drummers in the world in John Bonham, an enigmatic frontman with a great voice (and the reason that Ritchie Blackmore painted himself green and went to live in a tree) in Robert Plant, and an occult-obsessed, riff-writing (and riff stealing) guitarist in Jimmy Page. Coupled with the fact they were managed by Peter Grant - the man responsible for bands getting the money they were actually DUE for playing live - how could they fail? If Peter Grant had been managing Quo in the early '70s they would have cracked the USA, imo.
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Post by taximan2002 on Mar 10, 2017 21:06:30 GMT
I think he's a great lead guitarist, when he wants to be. He's a fantastic Blues player, there's a clip on the TPAOY DVD and they're all in the studio and just start a blues jam for about 20 seconds, it sounds so bloody good. So many of his lead breaks are well thought out are melodic and catchy, in fact two of my favourites are simple but sound great to my ears, The Fighter and Lucille, not great songs but the lead breaks just do it for me. The FF tour showed that when he put his mind to it he could still nail those solos that he hadn't played for years, especially Just Take Me and Most of the Time...
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Post by taximan2002 on Mar 10, 2017 21:10:04 GMT
Say what you like about Zep - hype over substance, whatever - but "Physical Graffiti" is one of the best albums ever made by anyone. A multi-instrumentalist and genius in John Paul Jones, one of the greatest and most imitated drummers in the world in John Bonham, an enigmatic frontman with a great voice (and the reason that Ritchie Blackmore painted himself green and went to live in a tree) in Robert Plant, and an occult-obsessed, riff-writing (and riff stealing) guitarist in Jimmy Page. Coupled with the fact they were managed by Peter Grant - the man responsible for bands getting the money they were actually DUE for playing live - how could they fail? If Peter Grant had been managing Quo in the early '70s they would have cracked the USA, imo. Could you imagine his response for getting a roll of denim as payment for the Levi ad's... lol
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Post by dennis on Mar 10, 2017 21:12:07 GMT
If Peter Grant had been managing Quo in the early '70s they would have cracked the USA, imo. Could you imagine his response for getting a roll of denim as payment for the Levi ad's... lol I always seemed likely to me that the fee may well have been higher but the band only received the roll of cloth - but I'm a cynical git!
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