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Post by muzz on Oct 4, 2016 6:09:09 GMT
doh And it's said Donald Trump has little respect for women.... Still, guess Rick has caught up with the future President. DAd when he died at 67 had his wife and two others on the go. Some men just don't know when to stop.... ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 8:47:20 GMT
Where does this 'Porter had an argument with Rick' actually come from?
I've only every seen it referenced on here, nowhere else at all.
WHO actually reported it as gospel truth it actually happened?
It was reported on a showbiz forum. I'm sure if it was false then Simon would have had the site/thread taken down by now like he has done in the past. Since it's not, and the person who posted it had no reason to make up a story about Rick, I believe it. Ah, so from another forum then, not a proper source.
Here's the post that was made:
He walked past me twice when I was in the Royal Brompton last week - the second time, he was having a right old go at the person with him - I assume his manager.
So not (as many people on here have claimed) an argument between Porter and Rick whilst Rick was laying in a hospital bed in Turkey then, this 'observed supposed argument' must have been many weeks after Rick was back in the UK AND fully mobile as the poster says 'He WALKED past me a couple of times'.
Not quite the heinious crime he is accused of then, particularly as the person concerned doesn't actually say what they were arguing about! Knowing Rick, it could actually be a case of Porter trying to stop Rick going outside for a cigarette or Rick saying he was well enough to play a gig - nobody apart from those concerned actually know.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 10:54:53 GMT
Referring back to my own responses and comments in this thread, this is the key part that I have a large problem with. Its an extract from Simon Porters official public bulletin about Rick:
"His medical team continue to be confident of a full recovery, but Rick’s absolute priorities for the foreseeable future are for his health and wellbeing and to be able to see his eight year old twin children Tommy and Lily grow up"
Ricks latest actions seek to jeopardise both those crucial objectives in the most serious way possible. The detail may not be anyone's business outside of the close family, but the ramifications of this separation and especially the implied nature of it cannot be simply ignored and excused and justified within the context of this official statement.
It obviously reflects very sadly on Rick, at a time when he should be needing all the help and support possible - but it also makes something of an abyss of the comments made by Simon Porter. Furthermore, last but by no means least, it adds to the heartbreak of his wife and family and further destabilises the parental network his twins depend on.
Making such comments is not sticking a nose in someone else's business - it is stating a very obvious and legitimate case of concern.
After all, if the management officially state Ricks "absolute priorities" on his behalf (and assumedly based on his own authority of intent) it is entirely reasonable to expect him to stick to them..
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Post by wolfman on Oct 4, 2016 12:24:20 GMT
the song ..who asked you pops to mind...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 12:38:11 GMT
I'm closing my account with the Halifax
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Post by wolfman on Oct 4, 2016 13:03:23 GMT
I'm closing my account with the Halifax noooooooooooo..I need to see your smiling face again....
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Post by billyno on Oct 4, 2016 14:29:24 GMT
Possibly the worst piece of journalism I've read in a long time. Now I know why I don't buy or read the S*n. At least online I didn't need to touch it. I don't know, or really care, what the truth is but suspect this isn't close.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 16:33:55 GMT
Ah, so from another forum then, not a proper source. Tough. Porter is not a proper manager. He deserves everything he gets. If the allegations were not true, the site/thread/posts would have been taken down months ago, if not now, when they have been reintroduced to the public.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 20:25:03 GMT
Ah, so from another forum then, not a proper source. Tough. Porter is not a proper manager. He deserves everything he gets. If the allegations were not true, the site/thread/posts would have been taken down months ago, if not now, when they have been reintroduced to the public. Contrary to what you may believe I'm pretty sure the bands management don't spend all their time trawling through every single forum on the internet 'just in case someone says something'.
I notice you decided not to comment on the fact that many on here have taken this one odd post about Rick and 'someone who may have been his manager' disagreeing in a LONDON hospital and turned it into 'Porter arguing with Rick in hospital in Turkey'.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 21:36:47 GMT
Tough. Porter is not a proper manager. He deserves everything he gets. If the allegations were not true, the site/thread/posts would have been taken down months ago, if not now, when they have been reintroduced to the public. Contrary to what you may believe I'm pretty sure the bands management don't spend all their time trawling through every single forum on the internet 'just in case someone says something'.
I notice you decided not to comment on the fact that many on here have taken this one odd post about Rick and 'someone who may have been his manager' disagreeing in a LONDON hospital and turned it into 'Porter arguing with Rick in hospital in Turkey'.
Both your assumptions about me are incorrect, but that's no surprise. Firstly, I do not believe (and how would you know anyway as I've not said?!) that management spend all their time trawling the internet. But sites have been taken down in the past by them. Secondly, I haven't decided not to do anything. And who has actually said the argument had taken place in Turkey?
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Post by americanquo on Oct 5, 2016 4:20:37 GMT
If they had to pay for the ambulance thing themselves.... what kind of insurance do the durex.. sorry duroc have for their money machines?? BAH! There was a radio interview that americanquo posted here recently and in it, Francis said that Rick was uninsurable. Yep. First time I'd heard that, but it makes sense. But damn...I mean, my travel club has free medevac anywhere in the world back home, and it's only $100 mo. You'd think they could afford that.
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Post by curiousgirl on Oct 5, 2016 7:24:59 GMT
There was a radio interview that americanquo posted here recently and in it, Francis said that Rick was uninsurable. Yep. First time I'd heard that, but it makes sense. But damn...I mean, my travel club has free medevac anywhere in the world back home, and it's only $100 mo. You'd think they could afford that. This point has now been refuted and the band did pay for Rick to fly back to the UK. But it could be why the tour is going ahead without Rick.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Oct 5, 2016 7:44:11 GMT
The point @billybragg makes is fair. All we know (which does sound true) is that Rick "yelled" / "had a right old go" at SP. The way it came across on here before was more the other way around.
As for the official statement about his official priorities, it reads to me like the statement was simply aimed at giving fans basic info, whilst warding off intrusion at a terribly difficult time.
Rick has clearly been extremely unwell, and things like this can often put immense pressure on a marriage. None of us are in a position to judge.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Oct 5, 2016 8:10:50 GMT
Contrary to what you may believe I'm pretty sure the bands management don't spend all their time trawling through every single forum on the internet 'just in case someone says something'.
I notice you decided not to comment on the fact that many on here have taken this one odd post about Rick and 'someone who may have been his manager' disagreeing in a LONDON hospital and turned it into 'Porter arguing with Rick in hospital in Turkey'.
Both your assumptions about me are incorrect, but that's no surprise. Firstly, I do not believe (and how would you know anyway as I've not said?!) that management spend all their time trawling the internet. But sites have been taken down in the past by them. Secondly, I haven't decided not to do anything. And who has actually said the argument had taken place in Turkey? I don't know where the idea that the argument took place in Turkey came from. This was my original post about it and it quite clearly says it happened in the Royal Brompton Jun 30, 2016 10:56:42 GMT 1 The Lord Flasheart said:
According to a showbiz forum I am a member of. Rick was seen last week in the Royal Brompton hospital having a right shouting match at someone. I sent the forum member a link to a pic of Simon Porter and it was him Rick was shouting at.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2016 8:25:33 GMT
The point @billybragg makes is fair. All we know (which does sound true) is that Rick "yelled" / "had a right old go" at SP. The way it came across on here before was more the other way around. As for the official statement about his official priorities, it reads to me like the statement was simply aimed at giving fans basic info, whilst warding off intrusion at a terribly difficult time. Rick has clearly been extremely unwell, and things like this can often put immense pressure on a marriage. None of us are in a position to judge. In the context that this is a pattern of behaviour repeated time and again, it is not unreasonable at all to state that his timing on this occasion is particularly worrying. The point I made about the official priorities is that the actions he has taken have undermined precisely what those priorities were meant to be. I'm not sure what is wrong and questionable about that? It seems obvious to me.
Its not intended as a critical judgement - more disappointed concern.
We all think the world of our families in most cases, but that doesn't mean we don't ever express concern or disappointment in equal measures at one another at a given time of crisis. Why should it be different in Ricks case?
As a rock musician, he is also someone who has always been in the public eye. He will (rightly) take all the plaudits he deserves for being the amazing Quo hero, but he will also take the lesser rub when things go wrong.
Pressure on a marriage doesn't always equal throw a paddy and leave. Like I say, its hardly the first time - and it happens to be at a time he can afford least. I'm not sure what is so wrong with saying that - especially I was fast to express support to him and say he had not let the fans down by having the heart attack and meaning he was absent from the gigs.
But what he could take control of was sticking in there better at a time of particular need. That is more stating the obvious than being judgemental...
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