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Post by madtom on Aug 30, 2016 0:33:10 GMT
Alan, Rick and John won't be at Union Chapel, as you know. The band is not the Frantic Four, nor is it pretending to be. It's current Quo or, as I prefer to call them, Status Quo. I did see John perform on Sunday afternoon at his local pub in Shilton, Oxfordshire, though... I'm no fan of the current lineup, but have no gripe with those that are and admire your commitment. Good on you and I hope you enjoy your tour. I don't know how much longer you'll be here, but I do hope that Rick returns in time for you to see him again.
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Post by paradiseflats on Aug 30, 2016 0:53:40 GMT
Is it just me, or do some people think they are always great. Whatever the set or lineup ? I dunno that this was called for really. This fan has booked 23 gigs and travelled all the way from Oz to experience Quo's farewell electric tour. Why shouldn't he enjoy it? Don't get me wrong. People who go and show such commitment to a band good on them. However I do think some people think they are always great which I would never say. I also hope he gets to see Rick back in the band.
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Post by freewilly on Aug 30, 2016 1:32:31 GMT
Alan, Rick and John won't be at Union Chapel, as you know. The band is not the Frantic Four, nor is it pretending to be. It's current Quo or, as I prefer to call them, Status Quo. I did see John perform on Sunday afternoon at his local pub in Shilton, Oxfordshire, though... No, the band is not Status Quo. One original member (Francis) vs John, who you seen perform. Which one is Quo? What's the difference? Both bands, playing Quo music, with one original member. What's the difference? Both cover bands, both tribute bands. At least with Rick it retained an element of Quo Hope you have a great time and you get your moneys worth. I'm not that much of a dick bu, you can call them The Beatles for all you want, it still don't make them that. Just the way it doesn't make them Status Quo
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Post by freewilly on Aug 30, 2016 1:38:11 GMT
I dunno that this was called for really. This fan has booked 23 gigs and travelled all the way from Oz to experience Quo's farewell electric tour. Why shouldn't he enjoy it? Don't get me wrong. People who go and show such commitment to a band good on them. However I do think some people think they are always great which I would never say. I also hope he gets to see Rick back in the band. Yep. 45 mins in Wexford in 2012. They fucked off due to the rain. Gig reports = "Oh they were wonderful" "Best gig ever" The FF played an hour and 35 mins in Dublin and , quite literally on FB today, someone said they were a disgrace because they only played for an hour and it was all from the one album from 1970 (I shit you not. I will screenshot the post and post it here ) Some people are afraid to criticise CQ....Purely because if they do, that bubble bursts and some people just hang on for dear life. I am 100% convinced if Rossi was replaced in the morning, these people will still go and praise them.
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Post by therockdoctor on Aug 30, 2016 9:35:43 GMT
Thanks, Gaz. I'll try to write something up about the Coghlan gig soon, was a fun afternoon in a picture postcard location.
In December, it'll be 30 years since my first gig and I'm now somewhere between 200 and 250 gigs into my Quo live career - with this limited last chance to see them, I'm taking every opportunity to do so. I understand others may feel differently, especially with Rick's absence, but for me, the opportunity to hear live Quo in any form is simply too good to miss.
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Post by Gaz on Aug 30, 2016 10:54:42 GMT
Thanks, Gaz. I'll try to write something up about the Coghlan gig soon, was a fun afternoon in a picture postcard location. In December, it'll be 30 years since my first gig and I'm now somewhere between 200 and 250 gigs into my Quo live career - with this limited last chance to see them, I'm taking every opportunity to do so. I understand others may feel differently, especially with Rick's absence, but for me, the opportunity to hear live Quo in any form is simply too good to miss. Total Quo gigs for me....13. BUT 3 of those were Quo '75, '76,and '78...wouldn't swap them for the world. My last Quo gig was Hordern Pav 2013 where I caught a Rick plectrum as they walked off. Seemed fitting as I had a feeling it would be the last time I'd see them.
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Post by stusqo on Aug 30, 2016 11:58:44 GMT
Hey Gaz. I have a Rick plectrum too. We have something else in common.. Rockon Wilquo
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Aug 30, 2016 15:34:16 GMT
Alan, Rick and John won't be at Union Chapel, as you know. The band is not the Frantic Four, nor is it pretending to be. It's current Quo or, as I prefer to call them, Status Quo. I did see John perform on Sunday afternoon at his local pub in Shilton, Oxfordshire, though... No, the band is not Status Quo. One original member (Francis) vs John, who you seen perform. Which one is Quo? What's the difference? Both bands, playing Quo music, with one original member. What's the difference? Both cover bands, both tribute bands. At least with Rick it retained an element of Quo The difference is Francis and Rick kept the rights when they won the case to keep the name Status Quo where as JC has thrown some guys together and are a tribute band. These are the facts despite peoples preferences.
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Post by paradiseflats on Aug 30, 2016 15:37:16 GMT
No, the band is not Status Quo. One original member (Francis) vs John, who you seen perform. Which one is Quo? What's the difference? Both bands, playing Quo music, with one original member. What's the difference? Both cover bands, both tribute bands. At least with Rick it retained an element of Quo The difference is Francis and Rick kept the rights when they won the case to keep the name Status Quo where as JC has thrown some guys together and are a tribute band. These are the facts despite peoples preferences. Rather disrespectful to say John threw his band together. Suggesting he didn't care who was in the band. So did Rhino get 'thrown' in to Status Quo.
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Aug 30, 2016 15:43:28 GMT
The difference is Francis and Rick kept the rights when they won the case to keep the name Status Quo where as JC has thrown some guys together and are a tribute band. These are the facts despite peoples preferences. Rather disrespectful to say John threw his band together. Suggesting he didn't care who was in the band. So did Rhino get 'thrown' in to Status Quo. Don't think I was suggesting he didn't care, merely making a point if you re-read what I put, showing the difference between the two bands and why one is called status Quo and the other one isn't.
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Post by paradiseflats on Aug 30, 2016 15:47:46 GMT
Rather disrespectful to say John threw his band together. Suggesting he didn't care who was in the band. So did Rhino get 'thrown' in to Status Quo. Don't think I was suggesting he didn't care, merely making a point if you re-read what I put, showing the difference between the two bands and why one is called status Quo and the other one isn't. You could have done that without the comment about John. I think it's silly to suggest they aren't Status Quo. But these days it is just in name only as they have lost their soul that made them great.
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Post by madtom on Aug 30, 2016 15:50:20 GMT
They are sticking MG badges on cheap chinese hatchbacks at the moment. They are technically and legally MGs, but many classic car enthusiasts and experts will argue that they aren't the real deal. Just sayin'!
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Aug 30, 2016 15:56:16 GMT
Don't think I was suggesting he didn't care, merely making a point if you re-read what I put, showing the difference between the two bands and why one is called status Quo and the other one isn't. You could have done that without the comment about John. I think it's silly to suggest they aren't Status Quo. But these days it is just in name only as they have lost their soul that made them great. Can't argue with any of that. We are very lucky that all the FF are still around and that gave us a chance for the two superb tours they did, but all I was saying previously is why Francis can call his band Status Quo and JC cannot.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 17:12:21 GMT
First of all, it is great that someone gets so much enjoyment out of following them around, regardless of whether Rick is present or not and regardless of seeing the same performance repeated so many times. If it is right for you, then that is all that matters whatever I or anyone else might think otherwise So keep having a good time if that is what makes you happy
If it meant a chance to visit Australia, and money was no object, then I obviously would forsake my very jaundiced view of the CQ gig, and go if it was a means to get out there.
But back to reality and the fact that I am unlikely sadly to be getting to the lovely land of Oz any time soon
I have been tut-tutted at for describing CQ as a "karaoke band" Well more accurately for endlessly repeating the use of this term. Yet there has never been a proper answer from any of those who dislike any criticism of the band as to why they (CQ) obviously have had so little faith in their own considerable back catalogue album material on the live stage? It can't be simply that Quo is Quo whether its 1976 or 2016 and therefore they just play what made them famous originally because it is (apparently) what the whole audience want to hear.
That just begs the question even more - what is so badly wrong with the product from the second Quo ownership that took over? I say this as one who was "born" into the wonders of the FF - but still really likes quite a lot of the later material. Albums like RTYD, UTI, HT, and most especially 4th chord - just for example.
Lets remember it is a staggering 30 yrs since 1986 (scary) and the amount of music recorded in that time vs the amount of it actually played live is utterly woeful.
In that sense/context, I have a different opinion that this band don't pretend to be the FF. They do in the sense that the majority of their electric set has been based heavily for a long time on material pre-85. They also do in the sense that following the FF reunion, rather than make changes to their own set with their own songs, they chose FF reunion songs instead. The amount of their own material played live has actually decreased over the years in proportion to the number of albums they have made themselves the longer that time has moved on.
Why is this? Why bother at all, it could be asked, to record so many new albums over so many years if much of it is never to be re-produced as representative of Quo's whole career? They could still have done what they do anyway without the need to make new music- and just turn up and play the pre 85 hits and shuffle a few more 'Run Around Sue sing-along/bop alongs" in the customary enchanting medley of Stars on 45 rituals
I understand that it breaks a taboo to make suggestions like these because it undermines band "loyalties" - and the need to find everything positive in, well, everything! runs much deeper instead
However, that said, the only conclusion(s) I can come to is that they haven't rated at least 80% of their own catalogue (allowing for the usual minority of annoying suspects that have been played interminably since 2002/3) and/or they have found it easier to stay in a safe zone and keep replicating the same gig - featuring numbers that made them famous originally. Essentially meaning they don't need to bother with their own music on the live stage and just use the bulk of these recordings instead to make a little bonus extra cash along the way. Sorted!
On that basis I can certainly see (and agree with) why some suggest that it might appear that this band can do no wrong - regardless of who is playing and regardless of the same (largely copied) music played. But waggling disapproving fingers at "repetitive critics" like officious dormitory matrons would at a nightly occurring unruly bedtime routine doesn't answer anything
The persistent going through the motions, "set in tramlines" with every gig is what gives rise to the use of the "K" word. Like copying a script put in front of you as means to provide entertainment. Its all been very pre-ordained - although yes of course its true that this band do put on a very slick performance, and on that basis I understand why there are fans who return time after time
But infinitely more could have been added by fulfilling the potential of their own songs. This, rather than parrot fashion playing the "same old" in a way that comes across as far too sanitised and over rehearsed.
Back in the day, Quo were anything but like this. To give an analogy to it, its like a chef who used to prepare his or her food with raw ingredients and relied on his/her "soul" and the feel good luurve-vibe within it, to create a direct connection with a "homemade product" to please their audience. Quo in this sense the same UK institution as Roast Beef, Potatoes and Yorkshire Pudding.
But modern day Quo seems to me to buy a ready prepared packet to mimic the old ingredients in order to prepare a replica meal of the old formula, rather than adopt the old approach to their own raw materials that they could put together and make something out of themselves. They learnt nought from the lessons of the back tingling FF reunions in this master class.
So, the choice is either nicely packaged (and over expensive) Aunt Bessie's vs the lovely rustic baking aromas that your mum, or her mum before that used to make with her own hands and have passed onto you? Easy answer.
Its substance and spontaneity before style any time. Its that, and not a slick faultless show, that made me a Quo fan in the first place and why I stopped wanting to go to "electric shows" a while back
But each to their own
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Post by therockdoctor on Aug 30, 2016 20:18:56 GMT
It's good to see some respectful debate here. I understand that not everyone wants to see Quo in its current form, for reasons various. I'm enjoying this last chance to see them and if I didn't enjoy it, I wouldn't still be doing it!
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