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Post by markquo on Jul 9, 2016 11:02:28 GMT
The way I see it is it's great Rick is out of hospital and on the mend. The summer Quo machine rolls onwards albeit in a different line up. Generally the people who go to these gigs are more casual than fans who might do multiple shows in a year(been there done that),but still they are fans nonetheless. The word is entertainment and ultimately that's what the Quo b(r)and does whether we like the tired setlist or not. Not having Rick there will matter not to a lot of people but of course we can debate the rights and wrongs on here and elsewhere forever more. They are at least honest in that true show business saying "the show must go on",even if it's at the expense of a big member of the band. Refunds should be offered to those who don't wanna go,they haven't lied to anyone about what's happening so I don't see it as a problem. If you went to a big west end show you usually go to see the show,and if the main star is unavailable they have an understudy ready to fill in more than adequately. I doubt many people would return tickets as they still have had that "experience". The band have a capable understudy ok it's not Rick but still,people will go home happy after hearing their fix of ITAN and RAOTW because they booked to see a "show". I'm not defending or condoning it just sitting on the fence. Far rather we had an album and few gigs from Alan and JC back in the band but that ship sailed in Dublin. Sorry for the long post Cheers But they haven't offered refunds, cause they think it's ok to go on without rick.. Of course refunds should be offered I agree,just trying to see it all in an objective manner . Cheers
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Post by Railroad17 on Jul 9, 2016 11:02:30 GMT
I expect lots of tickets will be given away now. I had the same seat for Don Henley the other week and couldn't make it cos we were playing The Ferry that night. I was not a happy chappy. I heard the people at the Ferry wished you had gone as well....Freddie No standing by.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 11:14:31 GMT
The way I see it is it's great Rick is out of hospital and on the mend. The summer Quo machine rolls onwards albeit in a different line up. Generally the people who go to these gigs are more casual than fans who might do multiple shows in a year(been there done that),but still they are fans nonetheless. The word is entertainment and ultimately that's what the Quo b(r)and does whether we like the tired setlist or not. Not having Rick there will matter not to a lot of people but of course we can debate the rights and wrongs on here and elsewhere forever more. They are at least honest in that true show business saying "the show must go on",even if it's at the expense of a big member of the band. Refunds should be offered to those who don't wanna go,they haven't lied to anyone about what's happening so I don't see it as a problem. If you went to a big west end show you usually go to see the show,and if the main star is unavailable they have an understudy ready to fill in more than adequately. I doubt many people would return tickets as they still have had that "experience". The band have a capable understudy ok it's not Rick but still,people will go home happy after hearing their fix of ITAN and RAOTW because they booked to see a "show". I'm not defending or condoning it just sitting on the fence. Far rather we had an album and few gigs from Alan and JC back in the band but that ship sailed in Dublin. Sorry for the long post Cheers But they haven't offered refunds, cause they think it's ok to go on without rick.. I think its about there being nothing that can be done about Rick being absent - not that its actually ok to go on without him.
I'm not impressed with the gigs, either contingency or CQ, and would ideally want a much better scenario even if Rick was fit (the FF) but my wish-list is just not going to ever happen - so its a case of accepting the circumstances and getting on with it
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Post by 4th Chord on Jul 9, 2016 11:19:54 GMT
Ladies and gents. Can we lay off the insults a bit. This thead is about Rick the machine. I know folk are pissed off, me included, but it is what it is. We can discuss it and the fallout without denigrating others. Disagree. ..anyone who defends this deserves all the stick they get. I very much doubt anyone is 'defending' anything, but perspective is needed.
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Post by twentytwenty on Jul 9, 2016 15:16:14 GMT
So its around £40 to see 1 original member of Status Quo and a band perform a predicted set list. Id rather pay £12 to see 1 original member of Status Quo and a band perform IMO a more interesting set...I'm talking about John Coghlan's Quo at the Half Moon Pub in Putney on 30th July. The only problem here is that the cheaper band sounds.. Cheaper.. John switching shuffle and straight like he doesn't have control anymore. It just don't sound good, I feel very strongly that if this was a band without any connections to QUO, a regular tribute band that sounded exactly the same you guys would laugh at it. The other band though, tight like a mofo..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 15:47:06 GMT
So its around £40 to see 1 original member of Status Quo and a band perform a predicted set list. Id rather pay £12 to see 1 original member of Status Quo and a band perform IMO a more interesting set...I'm talking about John Coghlan's Quo at the Half Moon Pub in Putney on 30th July. The only problem here is that the cheaper band sounds.. Cheaper.. John switching shuffle and straight like he doesn't have control anymore. It just don't sound good, I feel very strongly that if this was a band without any connections to QUO, a regular tribute band that sounded exactly the same you guys would laugh at it. The other band though, tight like a mofo.. Tight?!!! The recent performance of WYW is appalling. Rick not being there to sing it is not a valid excuse. As for laughing at a band, you don't have to look any further than one who has a bass player who acts like a twat on stage. Comes across like a twat in his tour logs, mind you, but at least you don't have to see his puss bouncing up and down like one of those toys you see on dashboards. Sums up his role in Quo quite succinctly - a nodding lapdog.
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Post by bridsparegular on Jul 9, 2016 15:52:09 GMT
Another suitable Stand-In would have been Col Harkness (Spider), With Spiders last Hurrah Show not going ahead bet Col would have been chomping at the bit, and he fits the bill.
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Post by bridsparegular on Jul 9, 2016 15:57:22 GMT
Suitable stand-ins for RP?! 'koff!, Quo with any other as guest guitarist as the rhythm machine is a fuckin insult and embarrassment to the man and the band (name)imo. Rossi & Porter should be ashamed...
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Post by Railroad17 on Jul 9, 2016 16:26:28 GMT
It's not really surprising really,quick enough to be complicit when JC and AL and the original 'great' album producer Lyon-Shaw got the boot,he did nothing apparently..yeah right,Parfitt should not be surprised at what money does to people.What goes around etc.
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Post by Railroad17 on Jul 9, 2016 16:28:21 GMT
I think it's seems that the management are taking the piss now.it's all gone very Spinal.
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Post by twentytwenty on Jul 9, 2016 16:32:25 GMT
The only problem here is that the cheaper band sounds.. Cheaper.. John switching shuffle and straight like he doesn't have control anymore. It just don't sound good, I feel very strongly that if this was a band without any connections to QUO, a regular tribute band that sounded exactly the same you guys would laugh at it. The other band though, tight like a mofo.. Tight?!!! The recent performance of WYW is appalling. Rick not being there to sing it is not a valid excuse. As for laughing at a band, you don't have to look any further than one who has a bass player who acts like a twat on stage. Comes across like a twat in his tour logs, mind you, but at least you don't have to see his puss bouncing up and down like one of those toys you see on dashboards. Sums up his role in Quo quite succinctly - a nodding lapdog. You can't argue bout John's "quo" though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 16:34:08 GMT
Tight?!!! The recent performance of WYW is appalling. Rick not being there to sing it is not a valid excuse. As for laughing at a band, you don't have to look any further than one who has a bass player who acts like a twat on stage. Comes across like a twat in his tour logs, mind you, but at least you don't have to see his puss bouncing up and down like one of those toys you see on dashboards. Sums up his role in Quo quite succinctly - a nodding lapdog. You can't argue bout John's "quo" though. Erm... yes, I can.
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Post by gentlemanjoe on Jul 9, 2016 17:07:34 GMT
So its around £40 to see 1 original member of Status Quo and a band perform a predicted set list. Id rather pay £12 to see 1 original member of Status Quo and a band perform IMO a more interesting set...I'm talking about John Coghlan's Quo at the Half Moon Pub in Putney on 30th July. The only problem here is that the cheaper band sounds.. Cheaper.. John switching shuffle and straight like he doesn't have control anymore. It just don't sound good, I feel very strongly that if this was a band without any connections to QUO, a regular tribute band that sounded exactly the same you guys would laugh at it. The other band though, tight like a mofo.. I think i have to defend John here. JC, was, is- the best drummer Quo have ever had, I've watched him play over nearly 40 years, his performances on stage are awesome. He has that something that no other Quo drummer can produce. His performace at the FF were superb despite Rossi's shameful dis-information campaign. I watched him all the way through the Manchester Appolo gig and he never dropped a beat. I've played in a few bands, and even now Id have him behind the kit in any band even now. A Legendly drummer up there with the greatest in my book.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 17:13:50 GMT
Agreed the most important thing is Rick's recovery. I think we are in a position with Francis that he does not want to do anymore Electric after this year. He wants it over with but knows that if they cancelled or waited till Rick was fighting fit again. They would have to re-schedule next year. So I think he would rather get these Summer gigs out of the way. Then maybe if Rick is still not right the Winter Tour will be cancelled. Hi All, TLF, Can you envision Francis doing a U-turn if his plans for life after the LNOTE gigs goes belly up with no interest or is it as some suggest just another gimmick ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 17:20:13 GMT
I think we are in a position with Francis that he does not want to do anymore Electric after this year. He wants it over with but knows that if they cancelled or waited till Rick was fighting fit again. They would have to re-schedule next year. So I think he would rather get these Summer gigs out of the way. Then maybe if Rick is still not right the Winter Tour will be cancelled. Winter tour cancelled? Don't hold your breath on that. I fully understand that Quo NEED to meet their commitments, even without Rick. We're not talking of a few quid, or a bit of lost earnings. I would imagine that the sums of money involved are quite serious (seven figures), with cancellation charges on top. Hi All, TCB, Surely they would be covered by their insurance for cancelling complete tours ? Unless like suggested earlier because 'Rick' will not be covered for a heart attack, I assumed that was for a few gigs not a complete tour or tours ? In the case they would not be covered surely Porter would have figured this into the equation unless that figure is 'Rick's' replacement/fill-in ?
Geoff.
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