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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 9:45:26 GMT
I think if its really true the profit margins aren't there to release a new studio album then this applies to very other artist or band as well as Quo and the creative music business may as well shut down completely. Those that have made it in time can keep re-releasing greatest hit compilations and the motivation for the consumer to buy can switch fully to seeing how many versions of the same songs they can accumulate sitting on their CD racks in their living rooms
But wait. There is more - it doesn't stop there either. People can look back nostalgically to the radical changes in the music industry that happened from the late 50/60's onwards and be thankful that they were either there to witness the revolution or that they have such a wealth of back catalogues to keep collecting. They can also tell their children and grandchildren in the coming years that they were there to witness the end of the creative revolution.
Many will be lucky because, at least in the shorter term, their favourite band or artist may still dare to play a few album songs from those previous catalogues even though no more new material will be available. A real extra treat!
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Post by Gaz on Mar 31, 2016 10:21:14 GMT
Geoff Don't feel disloyal if you don't buy all Quo product! I passed that stage a long time ago. If a compilation comes out with something new on it (like XS All Areas) then I will choose to buy it. If there's nothing new on it (like Accept No Substitute) then I chose not to buy it. It's actually 5 years since QPQ, but lets not split hairs! And although it was the soundtrack, Bula Quo was actually a new album as well which was 3 years ago. I think there's at least 2 main issues (imo) with a band of Quo's age recording and releasing new albums. 1. It must be harder and harder to come up with good quality new material (after 30 albums) in the same (similar) style. 2. I don't think the profit margains are there anymore. If we think about how much it costs to record, manufacture, and market a new album? And compare this to how many (few) units a new Quo album will sell these days. I know it's released around the world, but in the UK it would only stay in the top 75 of the charts for 3 weeks! So if they're not going to make money, or much money for all that time an effort, that does start to put you off. So releasing another compilation album (generally put out every 5-7 years), is far cheaper and more cost effective than an original album (and no-one has to buy it if they don't want). I think the Record Company will go to Quo's management with the idea for a new compilation. The band could turn it down, but if it's going to earn them money for doing next to nothing, why would they? Who turns money down for doing nothing! It would be nice to have an announcement....but it's not going to happen (until they retire permanently). I don't think they know for certain whether or not they will do another studio album, so they're not going to announce something they're not sure about. Just sit back, relax, listen to what you already own, and when something new is put out there, choose whether or not you want to buy it. But most of all, don't feel you have to buy everything (you don't), and don't feel ripped off. Alan had a lot of new material written,if they sat down together I'm sure something would come from the sessions. It's the only logical step for any new Quo material to write and record with John and Alan but rossi can't see it or is too stubborn and stupid to want it. Cheers Rick was quoted as saying something of the lines that 'poor old Alan is still stuck back in the 70s with is music'.
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Post by markquo on Mar 31, 2016 10:29:24 GMT
Alan had a lot of new material written,if they sat down together I'm sure something would come from the sessions. It's the only logical step for any new Quo material to write and record with John and Alan but rossi can't see it or is too stubborn and stupid to want it. Cheers Rick was quoted as saying something of the lines that 'poor old Alan is still stuck back in the 70s with is music'. Ricks just a yes man and I don't pay any attention to what comes out of his mouth. If Rossi gave it the green light he'd be there like a shot Cheers
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Post by Gaz on Mar 31, 2016 10:41:14 GMT
No doubt Ricks a yes man but on the rare visits of Quo live in Australia that I've been to including CQ, Rick is so true to Quos roots... he is a powerhouse.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 17:46:43 GMT
Hi All, IAC, Yes it's a conundrum of being a fan to but or not buy these days, I always think though is it being disloyal then the argument comes in but am I being ripped off that is why I have no interest in buying the 'Accept No Substitute' compilation and only the re-produced albums that were just released and even they have now turned into another money spinner.
If Quo could produce another album in the style of PQP again (Like I am sure they can) I would be very happy, but I am getting a little frustrated with no new material releases. Like I said when other bands who are comparable in ages continue to produce fresh material and not just a mediocre release or because they need the money but a sincere attempt at bettering or producing an equivalent to their last album release at least.
Discounting the Bula film soundtrack album it is now five years more or less since QPQ and it was the last straw for me when the ANS compilation was announced, not only that but if memory serves me right there is another compilation still to come (Please correct if wrong).
I am sure that the Bula and Aquostic albums would have been better received by some if there was say FF or QC new material but this never occurred and is an error in my opinion. To just shove a compilation in the fans faces when what they really want is fresh material albums is a very poor lack of judgement and insult to the legions of fans.
If they are not going to record any fresh material ever again then the band should release a big statement about this and the oncoming disbandment after a whatever tour the fans deserve this at the very least.......
Geoff.
Geoff Don't feel disloyal if you don't buy all Quo product! I passed that stage a long time ago. If a compilation comes out with something new on it (like XS All Areas) then I will choose to buy it. If there's nothing new on it (like Accept No Substitute) then I chose not to buy it. It's actually 5 years since QPQ, but lets not split hairs! And although it was the soundtrack, Bula Quo was actually a new album as well which was 3 years ago. I think there's at least 2 main issues (imo) with a band of Quo's age recording and releasing new albums. 1. It must be harder and harder to come up with good quality new material (after 30 albums) in the same (similar) style. 2. I don't think the profit margains are there anymore. If we think about how much it costs to record, manufacture, and market a new album? And compare this to how many (few) units a new Quo album will sell these days. I know it's released around the world, but in the UK it would only stay in the top 75 of the charts for 3 weeks! So if they're not going to make money, or much money for all that time an effort, that does start to put you off. So releasing another compilation album (generally put out every 5-7 years), is far cheaper and more cost effective than an original album (and no-one has to buy it if they don't want). I think the Record Company will go to Quo's management with the idea for a new compilation. The band could turn it down, but if it's going to earn them money for doing next to nothing, why would they? Who turns money down for doing nothing! It would be nice to have an announcement....but it's not going to happen (until they retire permanently). I don't think they know for certain whether or not they will do another studio album, so they're not going to announce something they're not sure about. Just sit back, relax, listen to what you already own, and when something new is put out there, choose whether or not you want to buy it. But most of all, don't feel you have to buy everything (you don't), and don't feel ripped off. Hi All, IAC, Amended my post and fixed yours.................
I don't feel disloyal per say if I do not buy but it's that thought that crossed my mind about ANS, I firmly believe if they are now in it for the money they obviously missed the boat with the reunion and fresh material EP or Albums from both FF and CQ. Not only that but I also believe new material would also generate cash it just seems it's a let down to all the fans IMHO but like you said buy if you like don't if you don't like simple!!!...................
Geoff.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 17:59:22 GMT
I find it interesting that one definition of a fan is that you buy everything that artist/entertain/creative puts out. I know I was like that as a teenager but not any more. I still think of myself as a fan though because I always check out what is going on with said artist etc. So for those you of who feel uncomfortable or disloyal not buying stuff, I say, don't be worried and be selective. Though with Quo you might have a long wait before something you want comes along. I don't feel ripped off by Quo, merely disappointed that they offer me nothing I want. Hi All, CG, Although I mentioned my own feeling it was mainly about how things are in general for all fans, some happy with the way things are some not. Mainly it was what I felt about the ANS compilation when like mentioned above I find it hard to believe Quo cannot record new material in a similar vein to QPQ and if they are money orientated then they could have made more with the Reunion tours even an EP.
To sit and take the easy option is so disappointing I mean somebody in the Quo camp must realise there are still opportunity's to make money from a new album just not so much available as there was. Like CL said in her post do we now envision a music recording industry as just pumping out compilations instead of nurturing new bands by the old bands still creating new music ?
Geoff.
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