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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 2, 2023 18:34:38 GMT
I didn't bother enhancing this, as ITV are quite strict with copyrighting their archival material - so enjoy it in glorious standard definition  Quo recorded the instrumental (and Backing Vox) on the 27th November, 1986, at CBS studio 1 between shows during the 'In The Army Now' tour. I can only guess as to when the filming was doing for the Hale & Pace Christmas Extravaganza, but I would assume that it was done when the boys were at the Hammersmith Odeon in early December. |
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Post by mortified on Sept 3, 2023 5:33:20 GMT
What happened between Milton Keynes in July 1984 and late 1986?  To be fair, it began before 1984. I shouldn't be so snobbish, but I began to feel that conflict as soon as Quo started to wander into the Saturday night light entertainment side of things. I still do. I know it's irrational but I can't help myself  I've never really watched this Saturday night stuff since I was pretty much a kid - a very long time ago - so these 'performances' pitching up on YouTube etc. take me by surprise sometimes. And very often make me wince. Because I just can't see the point in them. But I guess it's visibility and expansion of your audience. David Walker? Anyway, just to let you know; I didn't enjoy that |
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Post by 4th Chord on Sept 3, 2023 9:54:18 GMT
There's that whole period where the band were artistically all at sea. No real direction, relying on past glories and the ability to still put on a good, if uninspired set list wise, gig. Grasping at anything to keep the pound notes coming in, driven by management rather than their own decisions on direction.
I hate to say it...but were the band just not good enough to compete with their peers who were turning out platinum records during this time period - ZZ Top, Clapton, Genesis, Dire Straits etc.?
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Post by mortified on Sept 3, 2023 10:10:03 GMT
There's that whole period where the band were artistically all at sea. No real direction, relying on past glories and the ability to still put on a good, if uninspired set list wise, gig. Grasping at anything to keep the pound notes coming in, driven by management rather than their own decisions on direction. I hate to say it...but were the band just not good enough to compete with their peers who were turning out platinum records during this time period - ZZ Top, Clapton, Genesis, Dire Straits etc.? I personally think they were good enough but seemed to abdicate responsibility for pretty much everything to other people. Management, producers, even writers, as John David started to come on board. They didn't know which direction they wanted to go in. Or, rather, Francis probably did and wanted to avoid the whole 'rawk' thing (as he calls it now). But whether he liked it or not, that's where their strengths, and talents, lay. Quo = rock plus melody. And they were the best in the business at it. These acts you cite were probably only platinum because of Stateside success. And the only one I personally had any time for were ZZ Top who had begun to introduce dance rhythms and production values into some of their music. The rest were too lightweight and AOR for me. Quo tried that road with limited success and very much to the opposite of critical acclaim. |
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Post by 4th Chord on Sept 3, 2023 10:35:36 GMT
There's that whole period where the band were artistically all at sea. No real direction, relying on past glories and the ability to still put on a good, if uninspired set list wise, gig. Grasping at anything to keep the pound notes coming in, driven by management rather than their own decisions on direction. I hate to say it...but were the band just not good enough to compete with their peers who were turning out platinum records during this time period - ZZ Top, Clapton, Genesis, Dire Straits etc.? I personally think they were good enough but seemed to abdicate responsibility for pretty much everything to other people. Management, producers, even writers, as John David started to come on board. They didn't know which direction they wanted to go in. Or, rather, Francis probably did and wanted to avoid the whole 'rawk' thing (as he calls it now). But whether he liked it or not, that's where their strengths, and talents, lay. Quo = rock plus melody. And they were the best in the business at it. These acts you cite were probably only platinum because of Stateside success. And the only one I personally had any time for were ZZ Top who had begun to introduce dance rhythms and production values into some of their music. The rest were too lightweight and AOR for me. Quo tried that road with limited success and very much to the opposite of critical acclaim. Should have said, those are UK Platinum (at the time 300k sold) artists of the period. I suppose Quo's attempt was the AC album, incredibly it actually achieved Gold, followed by PR, which achieved Cardboard. AOR for those other artists brought success. AOR for Quo brought disaster. |
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Post by mortified on Sept 3, 2023 11:27:14 GMT
I personally think they were good enough but seemed to abdicate responsibility for pretty much everything to other people. Management, producers, even writers, as John David started to come on board. They didn't know which direction they wanted to go in. Or, rather, Francis probably did and wanted to avoid the whole 'rawk' thing (as he calls it now). But whether he liked it or not, that's where their strengths, and talents, lay. Quo = rock plus melody. And they were the best in the business at it. These acts you cite were probably only platinum because of Stateside success. And the only one I personally had any time for were ZZ Top who had begun to introduce dance rhythms and production values into some of their music. The rest were too lightweight and AOR for me. Quo tried that road with limited success and very much to the opposite of critical acclaim. Should have said, those are UK Platinum (at the time 300k sold) artists of the period. I suppose Quo's attempt was the AC album, incredibly it actually achieved Gold, followed by PR, which achieved Cardboard. AOR for those other artists brought success. AOR for Quo brought disaster.As it should for everyone |
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Post by iamcomplaining88 on Sept 3, 2023 18:54:36 GMT
I'd love to know how Quo knew in advance when recording the backing track, how long to keep the breakdown going near the end of the song so that Hale & Pace could mention what guests were on the show?
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Post by Xland on Sept 3, 2023 23:15:00 GMT
Dad recorded this, still somewhere in his loft on vhs, as are a few of Quo's tv appearances from that mid to late 80's time in particular. Quo at the dock with Red Sky etc was another he had I remember. We had the Going Live one from 1989 I think it was, where they gave away the drumkit if anyone remembers that, Jeff went up and gave it a bash & there was a discussion about teabags!!! I think he was always hoping they would be performing the Piledriver album in full or something like that, so press play and record it was! |
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Post by rockonquo on Sept 4, 2023 9:24:16 GMT
I like the other Quo set up on Hale & Pace. |
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Post by tqontq on Sept 4, 2023 10:17:27 GMT
Bloody joke. Cringeworthy stuff and what the F for?
As Mortified said. Look at Milton Keynes. Hard rock. Full on. Fast forward to Army and their new image and suddenly they are prancing around like dumb arsed idiots, looking more like a poor version Duran Duran than any resemblance of the mighty Quo. Talk about a complete transition and going down the tubes rapidly. And yet, they couldn't escape the fact that, live the band had to rock to sell tickets. No one, and I mean no one on this planet, wanted to see poofy, nursery rhyme Quo over rock, boogie Quo. Whoever thought this was a good idea should have been shot.
All of this was the catalyst to flee the UK and go and settle in Australia in 1986. I could no longer face my family and 'hard rock' mates after what my favourite band had turned into. Both Alan and I were at least pleased we were as far away as we could get from the embarrassment.
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 7, 2023 17:30:37 GMT
I'd love to know how Quo knew in advance when recording the backing track, how long to keep the breakdown going near the end of the song so that Hale & Pace could mention what guests were on the show? The 2 engineers on the session worked for LWT at the time. Andy Wernham, and Mark McLoughlin (who was also the sound supervisor for the TV production). Thanks to some helpful people that used to work at the CBS studios that identified the engineers for me. |
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Post by 4th Chord on Sept 7, 2023 18:50:42 GMT
I'd love to know how Quo knew in advance when recording the backing track, how long to keep the breakdown going near the end of the song so that Hale & Pace could mention what guests were on the show? The 2 engineers on the session worked for LWT at the time. Andy Wernham, and Mark McLoughlin (who was also the sound supervisor for the TV production). Thanks to some helpful people that used to work at the CBS studios that identified the engineers for me. Shame it wasn't recorded in Dubly. |
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To be fair, it began before 1984. 
