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Post by Quoincidence on Jul 29, 2023 2:18:53 GMT
Enjoy!
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Post by iamcomplaining88 on Jul 30, 2023 18:35:44 GMT
Great stuff! I take it the full gig footage without the years and N.E.C. clips across it doesn't exist?
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Post by tqontq on Aug 3, 2023 10:21:15 GMT
Sorry, I know the energy was there but it is played way too fast and lacks 'oomph'. When the FF played this back on the reunion tours that 'weight' was back again and it made a huge difference.
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Post by iamcomplaining88 on Aug 3, 2023 10:31:30 GMT
The speed was down to Rick though, Jeff gets unfairly criticised as being the reason.
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Post by freewilly on Aug 4, 2023 7:43:54 GMT
The speed was down to Rick though, Jeff gets unfairly criticised as being the reason. Don't know how you make that out... Caroline at the NEC in 1989...It starts off fine. Then, Jeff does a fill and it gets faster. There's no question that Jeff set a ridiculous pace at times. The Thirsty Work and Can't Stop tours in the 90s are evident of this right from the gig openers. That said, I was and am a massive fan of Jeff Rich live from 1986-1992. I don't mind the fast tempos during those years at all. For some reason though, to me, himself and the band lost a lot in the live setting, up until Matt Letley joined. What the reason for that was, I don't know. Even the guitars sounded shit |
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Post by iamcomplaining88 on Aug 4, 2023 18:58:50 GMT
The speed was down to Rick though, Jeff gets unfairly criticised as being the reason. Don't know how you make that out... Caroline at the NEC in 1989...It starts off fine. Then, Jeff does a fill and it gets faster. There's no question that Jeff set a ridiculous pace at times. The Thirsty Work and Can't Stop tours in the 90s are evident of this right from the gig openers. That said, I was and am a massive fan of Jeff Rich live from 1986-1992. I don't mind the fast tempos during those years at all. For some reason though, to me, himself and the band lost a lot in the live setting, up until Matt Letley joined. What the reason for that was, I don't know. Even the guitars sounded shit Take a listen to the Acoustic version of Caroline that they did in 1989 on the Steve Wright show and it's very quick then without drums. I asked Jeff during the Rock 'Til You Drop tour about songs being faster than normal and he said that's how Rossi wanted them to sound, make of that what you will. |
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Post by freewilly on Aug 5, 2023 0:29:35 GMT
Don't know how you make that out... Caroline at the NEC in 1989...It starts off fine. Then, Jeff does a fill and it gets faster. There's no question that Jeff set a ridiculous pace at times. The Thirsty Work and Can't Stop tours in the 90s are evident of this right from the gig openers. That said, I was and am a massive fan of Jeff Rich live from 1986-1992. I don't mind the fast tempos during those years at all. For some reason though, to me, himself and the band lost a lot in the live setting, up until Matt Letley joined. What the reason for that was, I don't know. Even the guitars sounded shit Take a listen to the Acoustic version of Caroline that they did in 1989 on the Steve Wright show and it's very quick then without drums. I asked Jeff during the Rock 'Til You Drop tour about songs being faster than normal and he said that's how Rossi wanted them to sound, make of that what you will. Wouldn't surprise me with Francis...Nothing does. However, if you listen to Caroline on the Thirsty Work tour, Rick is clearly playing the intro slower than usual and then it's like a runaway train when Jeff comes in. The NEC gig, the BPM goes up as soon as Jeff comes in. Again, not a criticism from me between 86 and 91...After that though, something seriously changed with the live shows. Can't put my finger on what it was |
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Post by No Contract on Sept 1, 2023 17:02:26 GMT
I asked Jeff during the Rock 'Til You Drop tour about songs being faster than normal and he said that's how Rossi wanted them to sound, make of that what you will. That makes sense because I can remember an interview with Francis in the early 00's when he said something to the effect that they had been playing the songs faster and faster and he thought it added more power, but it wasn't until they recorded HT and slowed the pace right down again that he realised that the real power is in allowing the songs to breath and have weight (my words not his). |
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