gerh
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Post by gerh on Apr 10, 2023 17:46:24 GMT
[Advance apologies if this has been asked previously!..]
Hey Luke, what'd the story with these 2 vids - how/why and where's the rest [if it/they exist at all?] The audio sounds like the 'real' thing?
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 10, 2023 18:59:53 GMT
Hey gerh, That is a very poor copy of a 'Rough Edit' that Keef. Co put together. I am assuming the person that uploaded it had some affiliation with Alan, as there's loads of video footage on there of Alans various bands over the years that only came about after his passing. It is certainly not a master copy, as proclaimed in the video description. The title card is missing, and it's in very bad shape. I think the actual master tape was held in the Trinifold Archives, along with the Channel 5 edited masters. Either that, or it was in Rossis home archive. There is nothing other than the 1hr 39min "Rough Edit". The uploader said "watch this space" to a few people that asked to see more, and is yet to live up to that because there is no more. The audio is a live mix, as instruments fluctuate throughout the show, as do the crowd mics - hence the ridiculous delay on the vocals at the start of Dirty Water. Here's the missing title card, and a photo of the genuine article. Cheers!
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gerh
Grizzled Rocker Rollin'
Posts: 2,967
Favourite Quo Album: 'Hello' [and 'Quo Live']
Favourite other bands.: Zappa, Kansas, Rush, Deep Purple, Yes, Richard Thompson, Horslips, Rory Gallagher, Thin Lizzy, Judas Priest etc etc. [ANYONE but Kiss!]
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Post by gerh on Apr 11, 2023 10:29:00 GMT
Brilliant Luke! Knew you’d have the answers👍👍
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 11, 2023 16:07:13 GMT
Brilliant Luke! Knew you’d have the answers👍👍 I've had a lower res copy of the master since 2020, roughly. I time-corrected the bootleg audio using this, and calculated roughly how much of the show is missing from the Rough Edit. It was hard to calculate Forty Five Hundred Times - Big Fat Mama due to the fact there was a tape switch at some point restarting the timecode. Caroline - Roll Over Lay Down (03m34s, cut track; Paper Plane) Roll Over Lay Down - Whatever You Want (20m:50s, cut tracks; Backwater / Just Take Me, Little Lady, Don't Drive My Car) Whatever You Want - Mystery Medley (24s) Hold You Back - Rockin' (48s) Rockin' - Dirty Water (05m56s, cut track; Over The Edge) Roadhouse - What You're Proposing (04m07s) What You're Proposing - Down Down (06m05s, cut track; Rain) Down Down - Bye Bye Johnny (02m57s) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Full time for cut material = 40m34s Cut material + Rough Cut running time = 02h18m05s Approx.
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Post by 4th Chord on Apr 11, 2023 16:23:31 GMT
Did no one have their iPhone at the show to record some footage?
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 11, 2023 17:05:11 GMT
Did no one have their iPhone at the show to record some footage? 40,000+ people in the crowd, and not a single one bothered... selfish bastards
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roquer
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Post by roquer on Apr 11, 2023 18:30:38 GMT
Did no one have their iPhone at the show to record some footage? 40,000+ people in the crowd, and not a single one bothered... selfish bastards No, both of you are wrong. Only one person at the crowd took his smartphone out: But it could have been placed closer to the stage. I think that little dot with the white guitar moving around is Rick, but I'm not so sure.
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gerh
Grizzled Rocker Rollin'
Posts: 2,967
Favourite Quo Album: 'Hello' [and 'Quo Live']
Favourite other bands.: Zappa, Kansas, Rush, Deep Purple, Yes, Richard Thompson, Horslips, Rory Gallagher, Thin Lizzy, Judas Priest etc etc. [ANYONE but Kiss!]
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Post by gerh on Apr 11, 2023 22:16:29 GMT
All this begs the ‘eternal question’… will we ever hear the full gig audio? Hope so, I’m getting older and more crocked by the day (honestly), not holding my breath tho, hafta save that for living 🫣 In an ideal world that ‘Back of the bowl’ audio could be ripped and cleaned up, crappy and all as it is, but at least it seems to be the whole thing!
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 14, 2023 22:59:09 GMT
All this begs the ‘eternal question’… will we ever hear the full gig audio? Hope so, I’m getting older and more crocked by the day (honestly), not holding my breath tho, hafta save that for living 🫣 In an ideal world that ‘Back of the bowl’ audio could be ripped and cleaned up, crappy and all as it is, but at least it seems to be the whole thing! Already done that with the audience audio recording, which is more "full" than the footage captured by Steve Plant.
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allyp
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Post by allyp on Apr 25, 2023 10:21:10 GMT
Is it true Paper plane and Rain were cut out of the video release due to a couple of technical hitches with the cameras???
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