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Post by granny on Nov 27, 2021 22:47:09 GMT
Tonight on BBC2. I thought this was a very good documentary. I had forgotten quite how poisonous the views of Margaret Thatcher and David Blunkett were when it came to homosexuals and Aids.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2021 16:02:51 GMT
I haven't see the documentary yet but I remember the vitriol and political inaction from all political parties here in Germany and in the UK too. The thing that made me incredibly angry though the was the cheap end of the British press and their thoughtless intrusion and out and out desperation to get a story on an intensely private matter. Had a member of their family been dying of cancer say, they would have been outraged at the constant and devious methods used to get the merest detail to titillate their readers. So called journalists from The Sun traced the chauffeur who had driven me, Peter and Leslie from the airport to Garden Lodge and back the last time we visited in the week before his death and offered him hundreds of pounds if he recounted what our conversation had been about in the car. Sadly for him we'd been speaking German so he was none the wiser but the owner of the company was so disgusted at the newspaper he contacted us to assure us of the discretion of their driver.
Before the documentary was broadcast I read a couple of articles online from British papers about it and about events at the time and they were all full of inaccuracies, some glaringly obvious, from facts that actually were made public but clearly they were too lazy to check.
Strange how the whole world sprang into action with the Covid pandemic but with the AIDS pandemic most governments around the world issued a few booklets and then just sat back and watched the misery unfold.
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Post by mortified on Nov 30, 2021 8:54:28 GMT
I don't really think anything has changed, 30 years on. Attitude wise I mean. It's still considered the 'gay plague' or something that only affected drug addicts. That's why no one gave a toss. Not en masse I mean. And I'm not convinced the population is really any more enlightened in 2021. The general opinion is that it was all self-inflicted. The media have always encouraged that approach. It sells more copy than sympathy and fact. The only time there was anything approaching a perceived need to seek a remedy was when infected blood got into the transfusion system. That shook things up a bit and the ramifications for the NHS are still ongoing. I was like almost everyone else. It was something that "doesn't affect me" so I largely ignored it. Presumably that's why Covid gets greater attention than AIDS ever did. Humans are strange, unpleasant creatures who speak loudly about saving this and helping that but the bottom line is, we only really care about ourselves as individuals or our immediate families. As you can see, there is a philosophical bent to my posts this morning
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Post by railroad007 on Dec 2, 2021 0:50:39 GMT
I don't really think anything has changed, 30 years on. Attitude wise I mean. It's still considered the 'gay plague' or something that only affected drug addicts. That's why no one gave a toss. Not en masse I mean. And I'm not convinced the population is really any more enlightened in 2021. The general opinion is that it was all self-inflicted. The media have always encouraged that approach. It sells more copy than sympathy and fact. The only time there was anything approaching a perceived need to seek a remedy was when infected blood got into the transfusion system. That shook things up a bit and the ramifications for the NHS are still ongoing. I was like almost everyone else. It was something that "doesn't affect me" so I largely ignored it. Presumably that's why Covid gets greater attention than AIDS ever did. Humans are strange, unpleasant creatures who speak loudly about saving this and helping that but the bottom line is, we only really care about ourselves as individuals or our immediate families. As you can see, there is a philosophical bent to my posts this morning "philosophical bent" So on a philosophical level you're a bender.
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