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Post by madturk on Nov 26, 2020 21:22:54 GMT
In the 80s I used to obsessively collect Quo stuff. I don’t know how many Pye compilations there were. But I bought everything I saw. I never listened to most of them though. But it seemed like Pye just put the same songs in a different order and put a different picture on the cover.
I sold everything on eBay a couple of years ago and did quite well. Some those tapes went for £40 a pop 😎
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Post by mortified on Nov 27, 2020 7:02:09 GMT
I was a bit similar, although maybe to a slightly lesser extent. I still grab the odd one now and again though. Just for old times' sake  There was a PYE compilation (under whichever label later) almost several times a year for a while. I probably started buying less of them when CD's came out. They seemed to increase these releases when that happened. They then started messing about with certain tracks calling them 'alternate mixes' or whatever. That sort of put me off a bit. PYE pretty much nailed it all with about 4 or 5 releases up to Fresh Quota in 1981 before uncovering some rare BBC stuff later on. Rare at that time anyway. You're right though; most of this stuff has remained unplayed. |
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Post by madturk on Nov 27, 2020 7:59:31 GMT
On the subject of alternate mixes of songs. I believe that only a tiny minority of listeners will hear a difference. So it is an Emporer’s New Clothes gimmick to sell more.
There are some remixes which you can hear a difference. But I am for the most part very skeptical.
I downloaded a remastered edition of a Led Zeppelin album and I’m b@@@@@@@ if I could hear any difference at all. I asked Google for a refund, and I got one.
It’s the quality of the song that counts. Not the mix/remastering or the audio quality.
I remember the very first time I heard Paranoid by Sabbath. I was blown away by the song. And this is me playing it on a portable cassette player in 1992.
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Post by blagult on Nov 27, 2020 9:15:02 GMT
The best remixes I’ve heard were the ones done a few years ago of the first two albums into proper stereo. I first heard them in a Pye triple cd compilation which basically had nearly everything on it.
I know this stuff is not everyone’s cup of tea but with the old headphones on they sound outstanding. Brings most of the songs to life !
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Post by sqcollector on Nov 27, 2020 11:55:13 GMT
The best remixes I’ve heard were the ones done a few years ago of the first two albums into proper stereo. I first heard them in a Pye triple cd compilation which basically had nearly everything on it. I know this stuff is not everyone’s cup of tea but with the old headphones on they sound outstanding. Brings most of the songs to life ! always had a Stereo mix and was not ever remixed. Only the first album was. On the subject of alt mixes and takes, I, on the other hand, am very glad they released these alt mixes and takes. I have four versions of Tune To The Music and you can clearly hear a difference in all of them. There were some tracks, however, on the 2003 reissues of the Ma Kelly and Dog album that were advertised as "early rough mixes" but were just the album versions, with only one of the stereo channels and with distortion and very poor EQ. But yeah, if you just care about the structure of the song, some of the alt mixes sound similar to the original versions (e.g., Something Going On In My Head). For instance, I quite like the alt take for NaNaNa. It's more pleasant. And I really like the stereo mix for the original version of Gerdundula, which is also extended. Actually, all the stereo mixes for the songs that were originally released in mono were a plus ( In My Chair, Down The Dustpipe (this one in particular unveiled some hidden parts that you can barely hear on the mono version), etc.). |
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Post by blagult on Nov 27, 2020 13:26:52 GMT
The original spare parts Stereo album does not sound nowhere near like the later true stereo mix. It’s sounds like one of those false stereo mix’s when released back in 69. There certainly isn’t the separation which the later mix brilliantly has.
PMM also originally had stereo copies pressed in the UK and released in that false stereo mix as well. But those albums were only for export release but absolutely UK press in every way.
Very rare.
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Post by sqcollector on Nov 27, 2020 13:39:07 GMT
The original spare parts Stereo album does not sound nowhere near like the later true stereo mix. It’s sounds like one of those false stereo mix’s when released back in 69. There certainly isn’t the separation which the later mix brilliantly has. PMM also originally had stereo copies pressed in the UK and released in that false stereo mix as well. But those albums were only for export release but absolutely UK press in every way. Very rare. The original CD reissue of Spare Parts from late 80s is true Stereo and it's like the all the later reissues. I don't know about the vinyl. This is unlike the debut album, where it had duophonic (i.e., false stereo) releases until it was remixed into proper stereo in the late 90s. |
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Post by blagult on Nov 27, 2020 13:54:41 GMT
Those are the mixes I was on about. I only picked them up on the treble cd release as I didn’t buy them on the individual cd’s.
They are superb !
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Post by sqcollector on Nov 27, 2020 15:03:18 GMT
Those are the mixes I was on about. I only picked them up on the treble cd release as I didn’t buy them on the individual cd’s. They are superb ! I Ah! But yeah, I believe those mixes were made in 1969, still. Someone might be able to confirm there are true stereo vinyls for Spare Parts. In fact, the mono mixes for Spare Parts are just the stereo mixes, but monoed. That is, if you convert the stereo mixes to mono, you get the mono tracks from the Spare Parts. This is not like the debut album tracks, for instance; if you convert the stereo mixes to mono, you don't get the same sound as the original mono issues. (And I'm not considering mastering differences here, of course.) |
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Post by blagult on Nov 27, 2020 16:16:11 GMT
I can only speak for the original 1st issue stereo vinyl releases as these are the only copies I have. Other than the cd triple with the newer much superior 1980’s ? Stereo mix. Certainly a lot different with a much wider degree of seperation.
I am sure someone mentioned these remixes before saying they were done in America from the original masters ? I’m not sure but someone may be able to add.
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