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Post by twentytwenty on Oct 30, 2020 19:53:48 GMT
It's a great live album but, I don't think a live album can ever truly capture the magic of a live gig though. That's something you need to be there for. It's raw, it's natural, it's energetic, it's real and it's fucking brilliant! I understand as a musician that you are aware of your mistakes and it can dent the ego but, if you reach a level where the listener doesn't even care about the mistakes, like Quo on the Live album, it shows what a truly special band they were and what a unique magic they created. The album, to me, feels like I've been possessed by the band and I'm in their control Aye, that run from '70-'76 was really special. AC/DC had a good run between 1977 and 1980 (Let There Be Rock, Powerage, If You Want Blood, Highway to Hell, Back in Black) Michael Jackson had a crazy run between 1980 and 1991 (Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad and Dangerous) Other than that, I can't think of many other artists who were as consistent and always delivered the way Quo did, between 1970 and 1976. Shows how truly great they were* *I still think RAOTW is a class album but, the sound on the original is fucking weird Haha, I actually think that the production of the RAOTW album suits the songs on it. I think that songs like Can't give you more, Hard Times or Rockers Rollin' lost it's magic on those remixes. But that's probably because he just didn't remix them, he basically reproduced them and leaving out key things in the songs that made them to what they were imho
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Post by freewilly on Oct 30, 2020 20:13:58 GMT
It's a great live album but, I don't think a live album can ever truly capture the magic of a live gig though. That's something you need to be there for. It's raw, it's natural, it's energetic, it's real and it's fucking brilliant! I understand as a musician that you are aware of your mistakes and it can dent the ego but, if you reach a level where the listener doesn't even care about the mistakes, like Quo on the Live album, it shows what a truly special band they were and what a unique magic they created. The album, to me, feels like I've been possessed by the band and I'm in their control AC/DC had a good run between 1977 and 1980 (Let There Be Rock, Powerage, If You Want Blood, Highway to Hell, Back in Black) Michael Jackson had a crazy run between 1980 and 1991 (Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad and Dangerous) Other than that, I can't think of many other artists who were as consistent and always delivered the way Quo did, between 1970 and 1976. Shows how truly great they were* *I still think RAOTW is a class album but, the sound on the original is fucking weird Haha, I actually think that the production of the RAOTW album suits the songs on it. I think that songs like Can't give you more, Hard Times or Rockers Rollin' lost it's magic on those remixes. But that's probably because he just didn't remix them, he basically reproduced them and leaving out key things in the songs that made them to what they were imho Can't particularly comment on that as I haven't listened to the original in years...But, I'll say this... I was 10 years of age, in 1999, when I first heard that album. I thought it sounded very "soft" That is coming from someone who grew up during the Army, Ain't Complaining, Perfect Remedy, Thirsty Work and cover albums era. I've often read stories about how people back in 1977, thinking something was wrong with their speakers when they first played it. I can understand that
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Post by twentytwenty on Oct 30, 2020 20:22:23 GMT
Haha, I actually think that the production of the RAOTW album suits the songs on it. I think that songs like Can't give you more, Hard Times or Rockers Rollin' lost it's magic on those remixes. But that's probably because he just didn't remix them, he basically reproduced them and leaving out key things in the songs that made them to what they were imho Can't particularly comment on that as I haven't listened to the original in years...But, I'll say this... I was 10 years of age, in 1999, when I first heard that album. I thought it sounded very "soft" That is coming from someone who grew up during the Army, Ain't Complaining, Perfect Remedy, Thirsty Work and cover albums era. I've often read stories about how people back in 1977, thinking something was wrong with their speakers when they first played it. I can understand that I think it's how the listener viewed the album as an original. When I listened to that album when I was younger I always brushed it off as being a 70s album and that's why it sounded the way it did. A bit weird when you think about it since the other albums didn't sound as thin as than one, oh well 😂 I'm one year older than you, on a side note, I remember when I bought Heavy Traffic in 2002 at a market when it just had come out, I listened to that album day and night (literally, I had it one when I went to bed) haha, good times.
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Post by freewilly on Oct 30, 2020 20:26:16 GMT
Can't particularly comment on that as I haven't listened to the original in years...But, I'll say this... I was 10 years of age, in 1999, when I first heard that album. I thought it sounded very "soft" That is coming from someone who grew up during the Army, Ain't Complaining, Perfect Remedy, Thirsty Work and cover albums era. I've often read stories about how people back in 1977, thinking something was wrong with their speakers when they first played it. I can understand that I think it's how the listener viewed the album as an original. When I listened to that album when I was younger I always brushed it off as being a 70s album and that's why it sounded the way it did. A bit weird when you think about it since the other albums didn't sound as thin as than one, oh well 😂 I'm one year older than you, on a side note, I remember when I bought Heavy Traffic in 2002 at a market when it just had come out, I listened to that album day and night (literally, I had it one when I went to bed) haha, good times. Still on the fence with HT First 6 songs are great. The rest I can take or leave. The production always struck me as a bit flat. Never understood or got the fanbase point of view of "like the old days" vibe That said, I saw the tour in a big arena and loved the way the stage was designed and the intro and how they were seen as a serious band. Great times... And then along came Riffs and the return of the publicity stunts
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Post by twentytwenty on Oct 30, 2020 23:09:06 GMT
I think it's how the listener viewed the album as an original. When I listened to that album when I was younger I always brushed it off as being a 70s album and that's why it sounded the way it did. A bit weird when you think about it since the other albums didn't sound as thin as than one, oh well 😂 I'm one year older than you, on a side note, I remember when I bought Heavy Traffic in 2002 at a market when it just had come out, I listened to that album day and night (literally, I had it one when I went to bed) haha, good times. Still on the fence with HT First 6 songs are great. The rest I can take or leave. The production always struck me as a bit flat. Never understood or got the fanbase point of view of "like the old days" vibe That said, I saw the tour in a big arena and loved the way the stage was designed and the intro and how they were seen as a serious band. Great times... And then along came Riffs and the return of the publicity stunts Oh the production on HT destroys the potential of that album, it could be an absolute classic today if it weren't for that flat mix. But there are some really great songs on there imo.
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Post by dennis on Nov 1, 2020 11:25:06 GMT
It's a great live album but, I don't think a live album can ever truly capture the magic of a live gig though. That's something you need to be there for. It's raw, it's natural, it's energetic, it's real and it's fucking brilliant! I understand as a musician that you are aware of your mistakes and it can dent the ego but, if you reach a level where the listener doesn't even care about the mistakes, like Quo on the Live album, it shows what a truly special band they were and what a unique magic they created. The album, to me, feels like I've been possessed by the band and I'm in their control AC/DC had a good run between 1977 and 1980 (Let There Be Rock, Powerage, If You Want Blood, Highway to Hell, Back in Black) Michael Jackson had a crazy run between 1980 and 1991 (Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad and Dangerous) Other than that, I can't think of many other artists who were as consistent and always delivered the way Quo did, between 1970 and 1976. Shows how truly great they were* *I still think RAOTW is a class album but, the sound on the original is fucking weird Haha, I actually think that the production of the RAOTW album suits the songs on it. I think that songs like Can't give you more, Hard Times or Rockers Rollin' lost it's magic on those remixes. But that's probably because he just didn't remix them, he basically reproduced them and leaving out key things in the songs that made them to what they were imho The work John Eden did was interesting, but it also showed that you can't bring out the missing oomph that we were used to previously if it isn't there on the tapes.
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Post by twentytwenty on Nov 1, 2020 18:26:17 GMT
Haha, I actually think that the production of the RAOTW album suits the songs on it. I think that songs like Can't give you more, Hard Times or Rockers Rollin' lost it's magic on those remixes. But that's probably because he just didn't remix them, he basically reproduced them and leaving out key things in the songs that made them to what they were imho The work John Eden did was interesting, but it also showed that you can't bring out the missing oomph that we were used to previously if it isn't there on the tapes. Oh yes. I think I would appreciate the remix if he just remixed the album and not taking things away from the recording or fiddling with tempos and things. I just want to hear the songs as they're supposed to be but in a better mix
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Post by matt on Nov 1, 2020 20:44:58 GMT
Some for the changes to RAOTW were unavoidable apparently. As the tapes had been wrapped for 40 years in reels the magnetism on each bit of tape can transfer to the piece sitting under it in the reel, so you bet a ghosting sound of something played a few seconds before.
I think that’s why Who am I is so different
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Post by frozenhero on Nov 10, 2020 20:42:01 GMT
AC/DC had a good run between 1977 and 1980 (Let There Be Rock, Powerage, If You Want Blood, Highway to Hell, Back in Black) Michael Jackson had a crazy run between 1980 and 1991 (Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad and Dangerous) Other than that, I can't think of many other artists who were as consistent and always delivered the way Quo did, between 1970 and 1976. Shows how truly great they were* *I still think RAOTW is a class album but, the sound on the original is fucking weird Manfred Mann's Earth Band were an amazing live band - I mean devastating, the BBC release from 1971 + 1973 that just came out proves it - but couldn't quite capture that on their first albums. Still, the MMEB albums between 1972 and 1979 are all mostly gold IMO.
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Post by az on Dec 2, 2020 22:57:24 GMT
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Post by tqontq on Dec 3, 2020 1:05:40 GMT
On a side note, check this out from 1981 Yowza. The power and the energy was all still there in 1981. This proves it. But yes, Quo Live defined the band as most of us want them to be remembered for. It wasn't just the music though, it was the whole package. The gatefolded sleeve, the hard rock image, the energy and fanaticism jumping out from pictures, the era itself. It all added to the 'experience'. Subsequent live albums were just thrown out to the market place and never came close although FTMO in 82 was a good effort it suffered from a poor sound and mix. Its funny how a Live Album can seal the end of an era. I am sure it was unbeknownst to everyone, that the Quo brand and sound would take a very different turn in the studio immediately after this release. I do wonder if Live was released in 79, after Want, or 1981 after JS and NTL, would it have been held in such regard as it is today, no matter if the quality of the live performance stayed the same. It is what it is but Quo in my mind did no wrong from Ma Kelly's to Live. Each album defined the band as they were each and every year. It just never got bad and never got better, it was all just consistently brilliant. How that all changed from Rockin' onwards.
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Favourite Quo Album: Hello!
Favourite other bands.: Talking Heads, Rolling Stones, Sheryl Crow, Gary Numan, Alabama 3, ZZ Top, Paul van Dyk, Jeff Beck, Bowie, Gerry Rafferty, Band of Skulls, UFO, S.A.H.B
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Post by mortified on Dec 3, 2020 6:32:54 GMT
....in my mind Quo did no wrong from Ma Kelly's to Live. Each album defined the band as they were each and every year. It just never got bad and never got better, it was all just consistently brilliant.... 100%!
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Post by blagult on Dec 3, 2020 9:17:36 GMT
Agreed. Certainly my favourite period. They didn’t do bad from WYW - NTL either tbh. Change was always going to come eventually. The main players were getting older and changing as people themselves. But at least that period happened. And they still can shock you with great tracks even to this day ! TheQuo story Reminds me of Bowie. Ziggy period being the outstanding time for me and the rest I can take or leave.
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Post by frozenhero on Dec 14, 2020 21:44:36 GMT
I've said it elsewhere but I didn't expect Quo Live! to rate so highly. But a great achievement and testament to the power of this album. (Literally, I was a bit tired and first thought you had posted an expletive, before I realized that it was actually "site" without an h... )
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