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Post by americanquo on Sept 29, 2019 16:22:11 GMT
americanquo , Throw in; Little Dreamer (to go before Perfect Remedy) Soft In The Head (to follow Goin' Nowhere) Queenie (great track performed live for a very short period of time on the Thirsty Work tour) Who Get's The Love (in place of Cream Of The Crop) Rock 'til You Drop could be done before the encore, and perhaps the Party Ain't Over Yet could be the opener for the encore... (If we're going for encores that is) Beginning of The End can be ditched as it's outlasted it's stay in the set as it is, and get rid of Rave On as it was never done live (it was a playback performance at the Shepherds Bush gig) Sorry, none of the four you recommend would make my list. I hate them, all four of them. To me that are all songs that might have soared with a real rhythm section but suck as is. And while Beginning of the End might be obsolete, it's still a very good rocker.
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Post by americanquo on Sept 29, 2019 16:25:47 GMT
Cool with me, if I can find a live version. Consider it added! Great version.
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Post by Quoincidence on Oct 1, 2019 17:37:42 GMT
americanquo , Throw in; Little Dreamer (to go before Perfect Remedy) Soft In The Head (to follow Goin' Nowhere) Queenie (great track performed live for a very short period of time on the Thirsty Work tour) Who Get's The Love (in place of Cream Of The Crop) Rock 'til You Drop could be done before the encore, and perhaps the Party Ain't Over Yet could be the opener for the encore... (If we're going for encores that is) Beginning of The End can be ditched as it's outlasted it's stay in the set as it is, and get rid of Rave On as it was never done live (it was a playback performance at the Shepherds Bush gig) Sorry, none of the four you recommend would make my list. I hate them, all four of them. To me that are all songs that might have soared with a real rhythm section but suck as is. And while Beginning of the End might be obsolete, it's still a very good rocker. It's a matter of opinion. There are plenty of songs in the original set you posted that i certainly wouldn't have in there, especially Rave On... and a real rhythm section? so tell me how the rhythm section is different for the tracks I've chosen to the ones you've chosen from the same album... So; Goin' Nowhere, Perfect Remedy and Cream of the Crop don't have the same rhythm section as Little Dreamer, Soft In The Head, Queenie and Who Get's The Love... hmm, odd as I thought Jeff and Rhino would have played on those tracks as well...
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Post by americanquo on Oct 2, 2019 17:50:51 GMT
Sorry, none of the four you recommend would make my list. I hate them, all four of them. To me that are all songs that might have soared with a real rhythm section but suck as is. And while Beginning of the End might be obsolete, it's still a very good rocker. It's a matter of opinion. There are plenty of songs in the original set you posted that i certainly wouldn't have in there, especially Rave On... and a real rhythm section? so tell me how the rhythm section is different for the tracks I've chosen to the ones you've chosen from the same album... So; Goin' Nowhere, Perfect Remedy and Cream of the Crop don't have the same rhythm section as Little Dreamer, Soft In The Head, Queenie and Who Get's The Love... hmm, odd as I thought Jeff and Rhino would have played on those tracks as well... You're free to make your own playlist. My point was that this band has more than enough material to have a concert on the material they have played on without having to be a Frantic Four tribute band, which is what they are right now.
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Oct 3, 2019 23:45:03 GMT
It's a matter of opinion. There are plenty of songs in the original set you posted that i certainly wouldn't have in there, especially Rave On... and a real rhythm section? so tell me how the rhythm section is different for the tracks I've chosen to the ones you've chosen from the same album... So; Goin' Nowhere, Perfect Remedy and Cream of the Crop don't have the same rhythm section as Little Dreamer, Soft In The Head, Queenie and Who Get's The Love... hmm, odd as I thought Jeff and Rhino would have played on those tracks as well... You're free to make your own playlist. My point was that this band has more than enough material to have a concert on the material they have played on without having to be a Frantic Four tribute band, which is what they are right now. But Francis has every right to play songs he wrote 40/50 years ago without calling him a tribute act. John Fogarty still plays Creedence Songs on his solo tours...he wrote them! And let's be honest, we all know why they still play the hits, we all understand it. The only place you could get a setlist close to this is when Francis or Rhino play on their own. So by all means discuss it, it's a good discussion.....but let's not kid ourselves that it 'should actually happen '!
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Post by americanquo on Oct 8, 2019 20:55:36 GMT
You're free to make your own playlist. My point was that this band has more than enough material to have a concert on the material they have played on without having to be a Frantic Four tribute band, which is what they are right now. But Francis has every right to play songs he wrote 40/50 years ago without calling him a tribute act. John Fogarty still plays Creedence Songs on his solo tours...he wrote them! And let's be honest, we all know why they still play the hits, we all understand it. The only place you could get a setlist close to this is when Francis or Rhino play on their own. So by all means discuss it, it's a good discussion.....but let's not kid ourselves that it 'should actually happen '! The point of this playlist was to show that he doesn't need to play songs made famous by the real Status Quo to play a great concert, Quo Lite and Post Quo have plenty of very good songs of their own. As for songs he wrote and still plays...what about the ones he didn't write?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 21:11:48 GMT
americanquo Do you use the prefix "real" before Whitesnake, Deep Purple, The Rolling Stones etc or just Status Quo?
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Post by swingseat on Oct 9, 2019 13:04:20 GMT
It would be nice if they played much more of their own songs, because there are so many very good ones to choose from. It doesn't matter what the actual choice is because its a hypothetical discussion and subjective to individual taste.
But including more album material besides the usual hits (and others that stay stuck in the song list) is obviously highly unlikely to happen. Another reason for detachment and rather moving on from being a 'fan' as such.
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Oct 9, 2019 15:00:21 GMT
But Francis has every right to play songs he wrote 40/50 years ago without calling him a tribute act. John Fogarty still plays Creedence Songs on his solo tours...he wrote them! And let's be honest, we all know why they still play the hits, we all understand it. The only place you could get a setlist close to this is when Francis or Rhino play on their own. So by all means discuss it, it's a good discussion.....but let's not kid ourselves that it 'should actually happen '! The point of this playlist was to show that he doesn't need to play songs made famous by the real Status Quo to play a great concert, Quo Lite and Post Quo have plenty of very good songs of their own. As for songs he wrote and still plays...what about the ones he didn't write? Firstly they/he does still need to play the old hits because those are the songs that a large percentage of the audience come to see. If they didn't play them numbers would drop even more. As for the songs he didn't write, technically they are still Status Quo, despite what some people think, so again they are expected to play the most popular Status Quo songs. In my opinion, they are more entitled to play songs written by Rick or Alan than the covers that every incarnation of the band has always played! What's the difference? When Francis did his solo tour he knew that the audience would be made up of 99% hardcore (as in long-time) Quo fans. So he played the songs he 'wanted' to play knowing that we would know all of them. He didn't play the hits. On a regular Quo tour you can't do that, however good the songs are. You can drop a few of them in but they have to mainly play the hits these days. I do think they should switch the Quo mark 2 songs that they play around, and not stick to the same ones, but that's a different argument.
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Post by frozenhero on Oct 9, 2019 15:21:17 GMT
What I've said before about this is people treating 1986 as a cut-off point doesn't work because they couldn't go out and play ITAN from start to finish twice on that tour. Just like the current formation, they had to deliver the Quo goods to make sure people still followed them. And the next two albums didn't produce too much material that could have permanently replaced RAOTW, WYW, Caroline et al... there is a sort of half-assed attempt with a lot of then-new songs, they usually didn't stay in long enough to become classics. The Oriental and Beginning of the End are the two main exceptions to the rule. Am I bored of those two songs? I used to say yes, but hearing them a few weeks ago in Ludwigsburg, they rocked & were received just as well as Softer Ride or Mystery Song. For better or worse, they've stuck. And now it's a similar situation. What are they going to do? Play Backbone from start to finish, and then? They've painted themselves into a corner if you like. Marillion managed to largely phase out the Fish stuff when Steve Hogarth had been settled but the band became a much smaller brand in the meantime. Now they've regained a lot of success and maybe it helped that they didn't become "their own tribute band", so they stayed relevant. They never relied on fixed setlists much anyway, and as we know Quo had this habit even in the FF heyday, although back then there was more improvisation to shake things up. But as for the tribute stuff, I'm not a big fan of Deep Purple Mk. VIII but they definitely have the right to use the name, unlike Rod Evans who (when DP had broken up) thought he could go out under the name. He was a founding member, now there's only one founding member left in the band, still nothing Nick Simper, Richie Blackmore or Rod Evans do can ever be named Deep Purple, even if Blackmore is arguably the authentic guitarist. In that longish interview with Richie on here Red Sky is one of the songs he wants brought back in the set list for the 2020 tour, I'd love it too, always thought it was a great song and the best on ITAN. There will be no major overhaul of the setlist,apart from 2-3 off Backbone it will be business as usual. As young and enthusiastic as Richie is Rossi is too set in his ways Cheers Rossi was so enthusiastic in the GoodTimes interview that he said he wanted to play five songs off the album! I assume that means the two they're already playing plus three more. The last time a Quo album has been presented to the public like that was Heavy Traffic in 2002. I would like to add Overdose, but I doubt anyone would be able to sing it. I can and I think Richie could pull it off too...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 16:48:27 GMT
What I've said before about this is people treating 1986 as a cut-off point doesn't work because they couldn't go out and play ITAN from start to finish twice on that tour. Just like the current formation, they had to deliver the Quo goods to make sure people still followed them. And the next two albums didn't produce too much material that could have permanently replaced RAOTW, WYW, Caroline et al... there is a sort of half-assed attempt with a lot of then-new songs, they usually didn't stay in long enough to become classics. The Oriental and Beginning of the End are the two main exceptions to the rule. Am I bored of those two songs? I used to say yes, but hearing them a few weeks ago in Ludwigsburg, they rocked & were received just as well as Softer Ride or Mystery Song. For better or worse, they've stuck. And now it's a similar situation. What are they going to do? Play Backbone from start to finish, and then? They've painted themselves into a corner if you like. Marillion managed to largely phase out the Fish stuff when Steve Hogarth had been settled but the band became a much smaller brand in the meantime. Now they've regained a lot of success and maybe it helped that they didn't become "their own tribute band", so they stayed relevant. They never relied on fixed setlists much anyway, and as we know Quo had this habit even in the FF heyday, although back then there was more improvisation to shake things up. But as for the tribute stuff, I'm not a big fan of Deep Purple Mk. VIII but they definitely have the right to use the name, unlike Rod Evans who (when DP had broken up) thought he could go out under the name. He was a founding member, now there's only one founding member left in the band, still nothing Nick Simper, Richie Blackmore or Rod Evans do can ever be named Deep Purple, even if Blackmore is arguably the authentic guitarist. There will be no major overhaul of the setlist,apart from 2-3 off Backbone it will be business as usual. As young and enthusiastic as Richie is Rossi is too set in his ways Cheers Rossi was so enthusiastic in the GoodTimes interview that he said he wanted to play five songs off the album! I assume that means the two they're already playing plus three more. The last time a Quo album has been presented to the public like that was Heavy Traffic in 2002. I would like to add Overdose, but I doubt anyone would be able to sing it. I can and I think Richie could pull it off too... Richie most definitely could. If only Francis were willing to really shake up the setlist a lot of great, classic Quo songs sung by Alan or Rick could so easily be brought back and would be a draw for hardcore, while the hits would still keep the casuals happy. Richie has really grown into his role over the last year and I think the 2020 tour could really be great if the vocals were an even split between him and Francis. How many times has Quo cancelled gigs at the end of a tour because of throat problems for Francis? Less lead vocals, less problems. It seems to be widely agreed that Richie's contributions are the best two songs on Backbone so I hope his writing gets an even bigger portion of the next album. He certainly should sing both his songs on the next tour, taking Face The Music back from Francis. I keep saying this but they could so easily put Big Fat Mama, Roadhouse Blues and a handful of other classics back. The reception from open minded fans would be phenomenal.
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Post by swingseat on Oct 9, 2019 17:17:48 GMT
And now it's a similar situation. What are they going to do? Play Backbone from start to finish, and then? They've painted themselves into a corner if you like. They have about 35yrs of songs to choose from to add variety to the song list to represent however many albums they have released in this time since Live Aid. There are also enough singles within that time they could choose from that period that many regular attendees should be familiar with who don't necessarily own albums. So I think there are things they could do (including one or two more from Backbone) They wouldn't have to drop all the present songs they play, but there are certainly changes they could make - if the will was there to do it. Its all hypothetical and won't happen anyway, as previously said. They have painted themselves into a corner they want to be in, and from their point of view that is all that matters. If they are happy with that and enjoying it, then what I or anyone else thinks who might enjoy surprise changes to tempt them back to perhaps seeing them one more time isn't important I might not follow them especially, but am still pleased that they are enjoying themselves and getting on so well as a unit
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Post by sqcollector on Oct 9, 2019 21:22:43 GMT
I can and I think Richie could pull it off too... I meant someone from the band ahah good for you! It's not easy to reach those high notes nice and clean. Rick used to have a great voice. I think Richie might be able to hit the notes, yes, but I don't know if he could sing them with that clarity and sturdiness. Would like to see that eheh
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Post by viza on Oct 9, 2019 21:49:18 GMT
I can and I think Richie could pull it off too... I meant someone from the band ahah good for you! It's not easy to reach those high notes nice and clean. Rick used to have a great voice. I think Richie might be able to hit the notes, yes, but I don't know if he could sing them with that clarity and sturdiness. Would like to see that eheh Definitely not. I do not doubt he could reach the pitch, but vocals is about much more than that.
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