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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Sept 16, 2019 21:28:30 GMT
Could somebody explain to this American what Radio 2 is? I saw Rossi's pre-interview and he squirmed around like he needed to pee really badly. BBC Radio 1 is aimed at young people these days (under 26) and mainly plays younger acts. BBC Radio 2 is aimed at the next age bracket, 26+ and plays a wide range of popular music including middle of the road younger acts, and older acts like Quo. Quo used to be played on Radio 1 but then they got older and it rebranded itself and got younger. Radio 2 also rebranded and Quo are well thought of by them these days. Liberty Lane was on the A Playlist for a couple of weeks. Radio 2 has the biggest listener audience in the country these days. A lot of the DJs are middle aged and used to be massive on Radio 1. Anyone add to that? Probably best not to mention Quo trying to sue Radio 1 for not playing their records (damn it..just mentioned it). Quo were seen as old hat essentially by those in power at the time. Quo were later saying it was about breaking of agreements, as they had played at the Radio 1 party in the park. Not entirely the band's fault...easily led by Mr Walker at the time. After all the fuss...eventually going over to Radio 2 was the best thing that could have happened. Not a good time for Quo and no radio stations were playing their records hence the TV route, under Mr Walker.
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Post by quoman on Sept 16, 2019 21:33:29 GMT
Just watched the concert on iplayer. Thoroughly enjoyed that. Looked like Francis did as well. Might have to book tickets for next year now!
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Post by azza200 on Sept 16, 2019 23:17:12 GMT
Richie chaps, not Ritchie.
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Post by steveh on Sept 17, 2019 11:37:54 GMT
I've heard the audio of the performance (enjoyed it) but i dont seem to be able to find it on the bbc iplayer, only the soddin pet shop boys set lol
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Post by gentlemanjoe on Sept 17, 2019 12:00:28 GMT
I would mention, Richie’s guitar needs pushing up through the mix, the rhythm guitar in Quo should not just be a background noise.
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Post by tommy on Sept 17, 2019 12:18:22 GMT
I've heard the audio of the performance (enjoyed it) but i dont seem to be able to find it on the bbc iplayer, only the soddin pet shop boys set lol The initial link on the iPlayer is headed up Pet Shop Boys, but if you click on that it gives different performances... Hopefully this link works:- www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p07mvwxz
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Sept 17, 2019 17:08:53 GMT
I’ve just watched the first half of the concert on iPlayer - have to say I was very impressed. I haven’t seen this version of the band live before and I think they are tighter and have more enthusiasm than when I last saw Quo live with Francis & Rick (winter 2014 I think). Agree that Rhino’s vocals aren’t great in parts. Richie’s were very good on MS - he would probably be better singing all Rick’s, but guess once Rhino’s had a go at them it would be tricky to change. Didn’t think I’d ever consider seeing the band live again, but on this showing I may reconsider. Have you got a URL for that? I've looked for it but could only find the audio. Swizz! The iplayer page I found only had single track excerpts.
UPDATE - as there is no surer way of causing something to happen than whining about it not, I went and had another look. They've added a whole lot more excertps since I looked on Sunday, including the first half. Thanks for mentioning it or I wdn'tve gone back.
FURTHER UPDATE - I think that was the whole Hyde Park set ...
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 17, 2019 17:11:53 GMT
BBC Radio 1 is aimed at young people these days (under 26) and mainly plays younger acts. BBC Radio 2 is aimed at the next age bracket, 26+ and plays a wide range of popular music including middle of the road younger acts, and older acts like Quo. Quo used to be played on Radio 1 but then they got older and it rebranded itself and got younger. Radio 2 also rebranded and Quo are well thought of by them these days. Liberty Lane was on the A Playlist for a couple of weeks. Radio 2 has the biggest listener audience in the country these days. A lot of the DJs are middle aged and used to be massive on Radio 1. Anyone add to that? Probably best not to mention Quo trying to sue Radio 1 for not playing their records (damn it..just mentioned it). Quo were seen as old hat essentially by those in power at the time. Quo were later saying it was about breaking of agreements, as they had played at the Radio 1 party in the park. Not entirely the band's fault...easily led by Mr Walker at the time. After all the fuss...eventually going over to Radio 2 was the best thing that could have happened. Not a good time for Quo and no radio stations were playing their records hence the TV route, under Mr Walker. They initially were going to sue them as they weren't paid for the Sutton Park gig in 1992, but Walker wanted them to go bigger hence the whole suing BBC radio 1 for not playing them on the radio.
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 17, 2019 17:12:21 GMT
I’ve just watched the first half of the concert on iPlayer - have to say I was very impressed. I haven’t seen this version of the band live before and I think they are tighter and have more enthusiasm than when I last saw Quo live with Francis & Rick (winter 2014 I think). Agree that Rhino’s vocals aren’t great in parts. Richie’s were very good on MS - he would probably be better singing all Rick’s, but guess once Rhino’s had a go at them it would be tricky to change. Didn’t think I’d ever consider seeing the band live again, but on this showing I may reconsider. Have you got a URL for that? I've looked for it but could only find the audio. Swizz! The iplayer page I found only had single track excerpts.
UPDATE - as there is no surer way of causing something to happen than whining about it not, I went and had another look. They've added a whole lot more excertps since I looked on Sunday, including the first half. Thanks for mentioning it or I wdn'tve gone back.
I'm uploading it to YouTube shortly Cheers
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Sept 17, 2019 18:44:04 GMT
Probably best not to mention Quo trying to sue Radio 1 for not playing their records (damn it..just mentioned it). Quo were seen as old hat essentially by those in power at the time. Quo were later saying it was about breaking of agreements, as they had played at the Radio 1 party in the park. Not entirely the band's fault...easily led by Mr Walker at the time. After all the fuss...eventually going over to Radio 2 was the best thing that could have happened. Not a good time for Quo and no radio stations were playing their records hence the TV route, under Mr Walker. They initially were going to sue them as they weren't paid for the Sutton Park gig in 1992, but Walker wanted them to go bigger hence the whole suing BBC radio 1 for not playing them on the radio. Yes, it was a funny time. Chicken or the egg stuff. I wasn't aware of them gearing up to go to war with Radio 1 over unpaid fees for the Sutton party in the park until after the 'ban' on their records by Radio 1. Not many people did. In fact, hard to imagine they would have gone through with suing of Radio 1, before they were aware of any ban on the their records, as commercial suicide in a way. Suddenly, it seemed more like the Quo Management had quickly shifted attention away from the ban of old bands by Radio 1 and were trying to justify their actions more by letting it be publicly known that there had been an issue of unpaid fees. Still remember the band looking poker faced and posing for the press outside Broadcasting House and feeling uncomfortable for the band and wishing they had gone down a more dignified route and not lowered themselves to the level of the seemingly arrogant, axe wielding, new bosses at Radio 1.
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Post by markquo on Sept 17, 2019 19:25:45 GMT
They initially were going to sue them as they weren't paid for the Sutton Park gig in 1992, but Walker wanted them to go bigger hence the whole suing BBC radio 1 for not playing them on the radio. Yes, it was a funny time. Chicken or the egg stuff. I wasn't aware of them gearing up to go to war with Radio 1 over unpaid fees for the Sutton party in the park until after the 'ban' on their records by Radio 1. Not many people did. In fact, hard to imagine they would have gone through with suing of Radio 1, before they were aware of any ban on the their records, as commercial suicide in a way. Suddenly, it seemed more like the Quo Management had quickly shifted attention away from the ban of old bands by Radio 1 and were trying to justify their actions more by letting it be publicly known that there had been an issue of unpaid fees. Still remember the band looking poker faced and posing for the press outside Broadcasting House and feeling uncomfortable for the band and wishing they had gone down a more dignified route and not lowered themselves to the level of the seemingly arrogant, axe wielding, new bosses at Radio 1. Walker and his repeated publicity stunts made the band a laughing stock both to the fans and the press. Cheers
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 17, 2019 20:15:59 GMT
They initially were going to sue them as they weren't paid for the Sutton Park gig in 1992, but Walker wanted them to go bigger hence the whole suing BBC radio 1 for not playing them on the radio. Yes, it was a funny time. Chicken or the egg stuff. I wasn't aware of them gearing up to go to war with Radio 1 over unpaid fees for the Sutton party in the park until after the 'ban' on their records by Radio 1. Not many people did. In fact, hard to imagine they would have gone through with suing of Radio 1, before they were aware of any ban on the their records, as commercial suicide in a way. Suddenly, it seemed more like the Quo Management had quickly shifted attention away from the ban of old bands by Radio 1 and were trying to justify their actions more by letting it be publicly known that there had been an issue of unpaid fees. Still remember the band looking poker faced and posing for the press outside Broadcasting House and feeling uncomfortable for the band and wishing they had gone down a more dignified route and not lowered themselves to the level of the seemingly arrogant, axe wielding, new bosses at Radio 1. There is an interview were Rossi goes a bit into depth about it but I can't find it anymore! Can't remember if it was on youtube or in one of the many interviews I have from the band... however, he does mention it on the Richard and Judy interview from around 2002. Awful time for the band, and they definitely regret doing it... but with Walker they'll have had no choice but to do it. He would tend to organise things before even asking Rick and Fran about it, and they had to follow through with it at the end of the day because it was already sorted.
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Post by gentlemanjoe on Sept 17, 2019 20:19:43 GMT
Standing up to radio 1 and their constant (desperate) chasing of youth market is/was embarrassing, most of the music they Kate’s then was crap and it’s unlistenable now(I know it’s subjective😏), I don’t care. I think they did the ri right thing.
As flashing Blades used to say “It’s better to fight and lose than not fight at all”
Having to stand up to the people you’ve worked with 20 years to get a record played is so wrong , considering how much they’ve had out of band in 70’s/80’s. Yer. Politically correct types would say it’s ageist but I’d just say it’s treacherous and shameful. There are ways of moving a band on to other platforms, and bbc got it very wrong here.
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Sept 17, 2019 21:29:20 GMT
Standing up to radio 1 and their constant (desperate) chasing of youth market is/was embarrassing, most of the music they Kate’s then was crap and it’s unlistenable now(I know it’s subjective😏), I don’t care. I think they did the ri right thing. As flashing Blades used to say “It’s better to fight and lose than not fight at all” Having to stand up to the people you’ve worked with 20 years to get a record played is so wrong , considering how much they’ve had out of band in 70’s/80’s. Yer. Politically correct types would say it’s ageist but I’d just say it’s treacherous and shameful. There are ways of moving a band on to other platforms, and bbc got it very wrong here. I think the band regretted making a stand in the way that they did. It wasn't all about Quo. Other bands, acts and of course a few DJs were on the slippery slope. It was funny to watch Radio 1 gradually being superseded by Radio 2 and being the Nation's favourite station after a relatively short space of time and having a bit more credibility in time. It was strange not hearing Quo on the airways in that period of time, not on any radio stations as far as I remember. Have a vague memory of DJ Mark Radcliffe (?) attempting to break the rules and think he defied the bosses and played a bit of Quo! Possibly hauled over the hot coals for that. Both Bannister and Dann seemed almost as old as Quo really and been around a long time. At that time it made me smile watching Bannister being filmed, whizzing along in his car with the car radio turned up loud and trying to be down with the kids! In their defence (a little bit!...controversial!), it was something like when punk came along and shook the foundations of the business for a short period of time. Probably fair to say that some of the older bands and certain DJs had become complacent in their ways and a bit comfy slippers and needed a bit of a rude awakening. Knowing how Francis reacts to criticism and doubting Thomas's, at that time, he possibly saw it as a challenge to get the band back in the game. Ultimately it all turned around. (keeping up americanquo?!)
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Post by Gaz on Sept 17, 2019 21:55:41 GMT
Standing up to radio 1 and their constant (desperate) chasing of youth market is/was embarrassing, most of the music they Kate’s then was crap and it’s unlistenable now(I know it’s subjective😏), I don’t care. I think they did the ri right thing. As flashing Blades used to say “It’s better to fight and lose than not fight at all” Having to stand up to the people you’ve worked with 20 years to get a record played is so wrong , considering how much they’ve had out of band in 70’s/80’s. Yer. Politically correct types would say it’s ageist but I’d just say it’s treacherous and shameful. There are ways of moving a band on to other platforms, and bbc got it very wrong here. I think the band regretted making a stand in the way that they did. It wasn't all about Quo. Other bands, acts and of course a few DJs were on the slippery slope. It was funny to watch Radio 1 gradually being superseded by Radio 2 and being the Nation's favourite station after a relatively short space of time and having a bit more credibility in time. It was strange not hearing Quo on the airways in that period of time, not on any radio stations as far as I remember. Have a vague memory of DJ Mark Radcliffe (?) attempting to break the rules and think he defied the bosses and played a bit of Quo! Possibly hauled over the hot coals for that. Both Bannister and Dann seemed almost as old as Quo really and been around a long time. At that time it made me smile watching Bannister being filmed, whizzing along in his car with the car radio turned up loud and trying to be down with the kids! In their defence (a little bit!...controversial!), it was something like when punk came along and shook the foundations of the business for a short period of time. Probably fair to say that some of the older bands and certain DJs had become complacent in their ways and a bit comfy slippers and needed a bit of a rude awakening. Knowing how Francis reacts to criticism and doubting Thomas's, at that time, he possibly saw it as a challenge to get the band back in the game. Ultimately it all turned around. (keeping up americanquo?!) haha yes I was just thinking that americanquo is getting a hell of a history lesson today😉
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