jason
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Post by jason on Sept 3, 2019 0:53:32 GMT
No, it will be released through earMUSIC / Edel its distributed via earMUSIC. Fourth Chord Records has been the bands record label since ISOTFC as that was the first release once the band came out of the deal with Sanctuary. Everything that isn't owned by Universal is released via 4th Chord these days and distributed by earMUSIC. earMUSIC is the releasing label and manufacturer. Fourth Chord don't make products anymore, they own the material and licence it to other labels to create the end product. Fourth Chord haven't made anything themselves since the UK release of Bula Quo, distributed by ADA (the Germany/non-UK EU pressing was licenced to earMUSIC, Russia/Eastern Europe to Soyuz or Moon, Australia to Love Da, USA to Eagle, Argentina to NEMS, Brazil to ST2, South Africa to ASP, etc etc). Backbone is distributed by Absolute.
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Post by musiktruhe on Sept 3, 2019 8:02:55 GMT
No more no less!
Without the real guys it is more less than anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 9:45:12 GMT
No more no less! Without the real guys it is more less than anything else. I think I asked you before and presumably you forgot to answer, but as very few heritage rock bands have a full compliment of original members, which of the many great bands still producing new music and touring with a changed line up do you like and how do they differ in style/output to Quo in your eyes?
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Post by musiktruhe on Sept 3, 2019 12:00:17 GMT
It differs from band to band.
For example I really like Martin Turner‘s Wishbone Ash and I am not so keen about Andy Powell‘s Wishbone Ash.
The problem with Quo is that now the only original member who is still in the band is not interested in the trademarks that shaped the real quo and this for many years now.
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Post by whoaskedyou on Sept 3, 2019 12:10:08 GMT
We all know Rick was more than just a band member. I really don't think Mr Rossi means it to come across like that or at least I hope so. If I was to go to a Quo gig now I would not care what side of the venue I was on..not planning on going mind you.
In all my gigs I always went to the side Rick was on..he was the rocker from the seventies to me..even in the latter years he still tried to make it a rock gig rather than a party rock/pop gig.
This is not to knock any of the new or old band members but for me Quo is just not the same anymore..others may have felt the same when AL or JC left but somehow Rick was Rick even though I never spoke to him. This is not just a step back to the old days but a feeling I always had with him was his total energy to rock once up there on stage.
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Post by musiktruhe on Sept 3, 2019 12:19:51 GMT
The left side was the right side,
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Post by Gaz on Sept 3, 2019 13:22:32 GMT
We all know Rick was more than just a band member. I really don't think Mr Rossi means it to come across like that or at least I hope so. If I was to go to a Quo gig now I would not care what side of the venue I was on..not planning on going mind you. In all my gigs I always went to the side Rick was on..he was the rocker from the seventies to me..even in the latter years he still tried to make it a rock gig rather than a party rock/pop gig. This is not to knock any of the new or old band members but for me Quo is just not the same anymore..others may have felt the same when AL or JC left but somehow Rick was Rick even though I never spoke to him. This is not just a step back to the old days but a feeling I always had with him was his total energy to rock once up there on stage. For me, your post hit the nail on the head. The old Quo from the 70s was a blast and I really enjoyed every Quo gig I’ve seen up to a few years ago mainly through the sheer rock energy Rick put into every gig...he was powerhouse.
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 3, 2019 13:22:37 GMT
its distributed via earMUSIC. Fourth Chord Records has been the bands record label since ISOTFC as that was the first release once the band came out of the deal with Sanctuary. Everything that isn't owned by Universal is released via 4th Chord these days and distributed by earMUSIC. earMUSIC is the releasing label and manufacturer. Fourth Chord don't make products anymore, they own the material and licence it to other labels to create the end product. Fourth Chord haven't made anything themselves since the UK release of Bula Quo, distributed by ADA (the Germany/non-UK EU pressing was licenced to earMUSIC, Russia/Eastern Europe to Soyuz or Moon, Australia to Love Da, USA to Eagle, Argentina to NEMS, Brazil to ST2, South Africa to ASP, etc etc). Backbone is distributed by Absolute. Ah right cheers Jason!
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Sept 3, 2019 13:23:05 GMT
Reading that article reminded me something Francis said in one of the Quo biographies. And I've found it in the '79, Authorized biography by John Shearlaw. "I remember when I was about six years old realising under the road was just dirt, Oh! I thought, nothing to worry about there. No roads, no houses, just dirt. Nothing to get too hung up about." p100 For me this reflects his attitude to being in show business and why he can say something that many of us find hard, "Rick was just a member of a band." He has to find a way to play down his inner anxiety and that is how he does it by demystifying it. He was always like that, even as a 6 year old boy. The bit that passed me by though, in the following paragraph is very interesting. He's reflecting on being stuck now in showbiz and the band, chasing success. "But there you are, you're stuck in it, for the moment at least. Worrying, hating each other, all of that." I was so star struck back then that "hating each other" passed way over my head. So 1984 came as a shock. Back to the recent interview. I actually don't have a problem with it. From my own experiences, behind the scenes, I see show biz as he does. There are some lovely people in it but they are few and far between. It also attracts psychopaths, narcissists, and neurotics. Its exhausting to be in. The other angle we can never experience is that he knew Rick before they were famous. For Francis, Rick is that fella he met at Butlins and they worked in a band together for over 40 years. Some of my uni mates are famous in other areas of the arts but to me they are still those people I knew back them. I don't think of them as celebs. Taking his statement in that light, he means no harm by it. Take it out of context and from the pov of a fan thinking about their teenage hero - its very hard to hear.
In our hearts we always "know" that our heroes are just people, but finding out that is true is really hard ... especially as "people" don't necessarily get easier to understand as time passes by (I find that, and I don't think it's just me, though I admit to maybe being more puzzled than average.) I remember thinking how 6 year old Francis was reassured by not finding anything creepy under the tarmac was kind of interesting. And he lived in London ... it's a good thing he didn't dig deeper down
It didn't really worry me that they hated each other at times, because I'd already been through that with younger bands so it seemed inevitable. The seeds of his differences with Alan were in that book too.
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Post by Victor on Sept 3, 2019 13:40:32 GMT
Reading that article reminded me something Francis said in one of the Quo biographies. And I've found it in the '79, Authorized biography by John Shearlaw. "I remember when I was about six years old realising under the road was just dirt, Oh! I thought, nothing to worry about there. No roads, no houses, just dirt. Nothing to get too hung up about." p100 For me this reflects his attitude to being in show business and why he can say something that many of us find hard, "Rick was just a member of a band." He has to find a way to play down his inner anxiety and that is how he does it by demystifying it. He was always like that, even as a 6 year old boy. The bit that passed me by though, in the following paragraph is very interesting. He's reflecting on being stuck now in showbiz and the band, chasing success. "But there you are, you're stuck in it, for the moment at least. Worrying, hating each other, all of that." I was so star struck back then that "hating each other" passed way over my head. So 1984 came as a shock. Back to the recent interview. I actually don't have a problem with it. From my own experiences, behind the scenes, I see show biz as he does. There are some lovely people in it but they are few and far between. It also attracts psychopaths, narcissists, and neurotics. Its exhausting to be in. The other angle we can never experience is that he knew Rick before they were famous. For Francis, Rick is that fella he met at Butlins and they worked in a band together for over 40 years. Some of my uni mates are famous in other areas of the arts but to me they are still those people I knew back them. I don't think of them as celebs. Taking his statement in that light, he means no harm by it. Take it out of context and from the pov of a fan thinking about their teenage hero - its very hard to hear.
In our hearts we always "know" that our heroes are just people, but finding out that is true is really hard ... especially as "people" don't necessarily get easier to understand as time passes by (I find that, and I don't think it's just me, though I admit to maybe being more puzzled than average.) I remember thinking how 6 year old Francis was reassured by not finding anything creepy under the tarmac was kind of interesting. And he lived in London ... it's a good thing he didn't dig deeper down
It didn't really worry me that they hated each other at times, because I'd already been through that with younger bands so it seemed inevitable. The seeds of his differences with Alan were in that book too.
Yep, as I found out painfully about Francis who was always my hero and it took me a lot of strength to slowly come to terms with it.
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Post by americanquo on Sept 3, 2019 15:31:09 GMT
It differs from band to band. For example I really like Martin Turner‘s Wishbone Ash and I am not so keen about Andy Powell‘s Wishbone Ash. The problem with Quo is that now the only original member who is still in the band is not interested in the trademarks that shaped the real quo and this for many years now. I'll agree. Coghlan's Quo I really like as the successor to the real Quo. Quo Lite is an entirely different type of tribute band, a lot like, say, the German band Piledriver, even though the Germans are much harder than Quo Lite. They play classic Quo, but also record their own new music.
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gav
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Post by gav on Sept 3, 2019 21:27:29 GMT
The problem with Quo is that now the only original member who is still in the band is not interested in the trademarks that shaped the real quo and this for many years now. I heard one of the new tracks on Radio 2 yesterday, can't remember which one, but it was a typical Quo shuffle - and it just didn't move me at all. This isn't a slight on Backbone specifically.
I'd just love to have seen them try and do something well away from their trademark sound. I think, as far as the bouncy, shuffle Quo tunes go, they really are repeating themselves over and over now. All their songs really are starting to sound the same!!
Which is why they should try something different. Dust To Gold had a bit of integrity, didn't love it, but it sounded very fresh at the time. Song wise, they're very much trapped in this very narrow field where they either do the bouncy, shuffle numbers, or the straighter numbers, a la RAOTW. How much can you really do with that after 50 years? It's simple, and if you want to keep it simple, you just overlay different melodies on top of it. Unfortunately, i think the melodies are drying up, and have been for quite a while.
I guess it doesn't help when the three guys that originally helped create the groove, the heart of the rhythm, are gone.
You can never underestimate the power of Lancaster and Coghlan - the groove. And Rick, the heart.
Damned if they do though, and damned if they don't. As always, i'll judge on the merit of the songs. Liberty Lane, i think, is a solid song that passes the melody test to my ears. It might be a keeper. Might still be nodding my head to it in my bath chair.
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Post by paradiseflats on Sept 4, 2019 6:02:06 GMT
On a board like this, to state the obvious there is a lot of over analysis.
He is creating a narrative. We all do it to explain our actions.
The question I would like answering. Is why did you fall out so badly with Rick you were going to close the band down ? Then once he was out of the band you were seemingly happy to carry on ?
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Post by Gaz on Sept 4, 2019 8:30:37 GMT
On a board like this, to state the obvious there is a lot of over analysis. He is creating a narrative. We all do it to explain our actions. The question I would like answering. Is why did you fall out so badly with Rick you were going to close the band down ? Then once he was out of the band you were seemingly happy to carry on ? As much as it pains me, I can relate to Francis’s new lease of life with Quo. I’ve been in a business partnership, with originally, a very close mate for 35 years. Over such a long time there were many good times and plenty of arguments but things do get strained toward the end but we continued on business as usual but generally the partnership was really dragging me down. Anyway his wife decided to retire and he wanted out as well, so I bought his share out and I deadset love going to work again...I’m revitalised knowing the goings on are my decisions from now on. Yes it is Francis’s band now and I totally understand his freedom to pursue his passion.
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Post by 4th Chord on Sept 4, 2019 9:13:53 GMT
On a board like this, to state the obvious there is a lot of over analysis. He is creating a narrative. We all do it to explain our actions. The question I would like answering. Is why did you fall out so badly with Rick you were going to close the band down ? Then once he was out of the band you were seemingly happy to carry on ? As much as it pains me, I can relate to Francis’s new lease of life with Quo. I’ve been in a business partnership, with originally, a very close mate for 35 years. Over such a long time there were many good times and plenty of arguments but things do get strained toward the end but we continued on business as usual but generally the partnership was really dragging me down. Anyway his wife decided to retire and he wanted out as well, so I bought his share out and I deadset love going to work again...I’m revitalised knowing the goings on are my decisions from now on. Yes it is Francis’s band now and I totally understand his freedom to pursue his passion. The constant dismissal of his and Quo's legacy is part of his continuing desire to 'sell' his version of Quo. As you say, nothing wrong with that, but of course a lot of it does seem unecessary, such as the comment about Rick. Sometimes best to say nothing.
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