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Post by Victor on Aug 11, 2019 7:32:00 GMT
Let's suppose it does indeed end up to be the best Francis Rossi solo album, well, then I still might enjoy that quite a bit. I don't listen to this new album like a Status Quo album but like a Francis Rossi's Quo album. Because that's what it is to me. But that doesn't mean it nessecarely has to be a bad album for me. I do hear variety in the songs contrary to others, but have to hear the songs completely to make a final judgement for myself. But what I've heard makes me interested enough to want to hear the songs complete. I guess the discussion whether this band is Status Quo or should be called different is a never ending discussion I suppose. For me it's Francis Rossi's Quo, others still call it Quo and I am fine with that too, it's all a matter of opinion. But an album is not good or bad because of a name only.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 7:43:51 GMT
2 or 3 songs are a little bit like real quo Songs The rest are Rossi soloalbum type songs tried to quod up a little bit and failed, like on many recent albums a posh and too clean production, there are a one or two real rock singers missing. No light and shade average pop/rocksongs. Nothing to stand the test of time. Songs like Shine On or Lucinda are gods gift compared to the songs on Backbone. It could be the best Rossi Soloalbum but nothing more. Oh you've heard the whole album too then? For one terrible moment I thought you were judging it on a collection of 30 second clips that don't demonstrate how a complete songs sounds. Thank goodness you're not hastily judgemental.
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Post by steveh on Aug 11, 2019 15:41:30 GMT
I heard "liberty lane" on Radio 2 again today, it's an ok tune. I think the opening of it especially sounds like one of those tracks that even a non-fan would go, "oh yes, sounds like quo", before knowing for sure who it is. That's mostly down to Francis and also the fact that he produced the album i guess. I think we've just got to settle for the fact that the album will be a few quo style shuffles, maybe 2 or 3 half decent Rossi guitar solos if we're lucky, and 2 or 3 tracks that maybe try a little too hard to be "different". But a rip-snortin' hard rock album it won't be, and i wouldn't have expected it to be. God forbid, but if Francis snuffed it suddenly tomorrow i think we'd all miss him and his music, so at 70 like he is, maybe we should just make the most of what he can come up with while he's still around. While the album doesn't sound anything like the "classic" quo sound we all know and love, i don't think it sounds "embarrassing" like some (not all by any means) of their material was from around 82 onwards.
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Post by equo on Aug 11, 2019 19:23:43 GMT
Just listened to the samples. Nothing great at first listen, but more interesting than I expected. It's not a real Status Quo album, that isn't possible anymore. It's a Rossi's Quo album. That's the best we'll ever get. The feeling I had listening to the samples: "God, why don't you turn up the guitars!"
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Post by Xland on Aug 12, 2019 21:16:56 GMT
Just listened to these for the first time and I'm still enthused to be honest. Always hard until you get the full finished product through your speakers, but I'm getting Blue For You, Just Supposin, Never Too Late, Rock Til You Drop, Heavy Traffic all in one vibe. Maybe it's just me. Also sounds like Backbone could well be the weakest tune on there, which also pleases me a bit. Will have to wait and see, but some of it sounds like it might be quite cool to me. Also regards the guitars, Liberty Lane through my hifi up loud sounds fine, bit of a RAOTW remix feel to me, bottom end is there if you like.
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Post by edd on Aug 12, 2019 21:33:13 GMT
The album sounds very promising. Really good sound to my ears. I think this album is shaping up to be really strong, and definitely has light and shade - something that was perhaps lacking slightly from Quid Pro Quo.
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Post by gav on Aug 12, 2019 22:00:45 GMT
I'm wondering, if you didn't know Rick wasn't on there, how would that effect your opinion? I can't tell if i'm over-conscious of Rick's absence or there genuinely is something lacking - i don't mean guitar levels, or guitar sounds (although these things will contribute a bit) - talking about something beyond that, the soul, or spirit of the guy and what that brought to the overall vibe - something that can't be measured i guess.
Really hard to say. Can't listen without thinking there is a certain power missing. It was more than just his right hand though. He wove something else into the mix. And then there was the musical empathy between him and Francis, and that sound they developed with the interwoven guitars. That is a more subtle thing maybe, but it's lacking here.
The guitars are just very simple, with a more obvious difference in levels between Francis and Richie.
Ach, i dunno. It's complicated.
I think Liberty Lane is a proper tune though. It flows, man. And it rolls along. And is very hooky all the way through, with variation. Maybe not the Quo of yesteryear, but it's already up there with some of my very favourites. Hope it stays there, and doesn't prove to be a bit one dimensional in the end.
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Post by Xland on Aug 12, 2019 22:38:51 GMT
I think Liberty Lane is a proper tune though. It flows, man. And it rolls along. And is very hooky all the way through, with variation. Maybe not the Quo of yesteryear, but it's already up there with some of my very favourites. Hope it stays there, and doesn't prove to be a bit one dimensional in the end.
My dad is as much as a classic Quo fan as you can get, some of his favourite tunes by anyone are likes of Big Fat Mama, Caroline, Don't Waste My Time, Roll Over Lay Down etc. He loves Liberty Lane, thinks it's fabulous, I think the "song" has grabbed him, he has always loved catchy tunes, but tunes with balls behind it, which in my view, Liberty Lane has. It has that classic rock and classic pop harmony if you like. Could hear it on radio 2 and think yeah, likewise on classic rock or planet rock. Always intriguing how all us Quo nuts hear things differently or just our different tastes for Quo within Quo. Hope it ends up being a good album overall.
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Post by gav on Aug 12, 2019 23:36:09 GMT
I think Liberty Lane is a proper tune though. It flows, man. And it rolls along. And is very hooky all the way through, with variation. Maybe not the Quo of yesteryear, but it's already up there with some of my very favourites. Hope it stays there, and doesn't prove to be a bit one dimensional in the end.
My dad is as much as a classic Quo fan as you can get, some of his favourite tunes by anyone are likes of Big Fat Mama, Caroline, Don't Waste My Time, Roll Over Lay Down etc. He loves Liberty Lane, thinks it's fabulous, I think the "song" has grabbed him, he has always loved catchy tunes, but tunes with balls behind it, which in my view, Liberty Lane has. It has that classic rock and classic pop harmony if you like. Could hear it on radio 2 and think yeah, likewise on classic rock or planet rock. Always intriguing how all us Quo nuts hear things differently or just our different tastes for Quo within Quo. Hope it ends up being a good album overall. Great stuff. You describe it well. Totally agree, it has that pop and rock vibe, not contrived or cheesy, but like you say, classic. Even if it's just this one track, LL, it'd be nice to have something from this final Quo line up that has a bit of staying power, tune wise. It's be depressing to potentially end their career with an album completely devoid of creativity. Plus, always nice to have at least one tune from each Quo line up to fill up a CD to listen to in the car!
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Post by Victor on Aug 13, 2019 6:52:26 GMT
Just listened to these for the first time and I'm still enthused to be honest. Always hard until you get the full finished product through your speakers, but I'm getting Blue For You, Just Supposin, Never Too Late, Rock Til You Drop, Heavy Traffic all in one vibe. Maybe it's just me. Also sounds like Backbone could well be the weakest tune on there, which also pleases me a bit. Will have to wait and see, but some of it sounds like it might be quite cool to me. Also regards the guitars, Liberty Lane through my hifi up loud sounds fine, bit of a RAOTW remix feel to me, bottom end is there if you like. Just a question out of interest...where do you hear Blue for You ? Just wondering if it is "I wanna run away with you" maybe ? And NTL, maybe in "I see you're in some trouble " ?
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Post by curiousgirl on Aug 13, 2019 9:02:03 GMT
I think you ask an interesting question gav - about knowing that Rick isn't on it. tbh - from the samples, I don't know what I really think about the album yet. I'll see once I've heard it. If Quo had recorded albums like they used in the 70s/early 80s, all together in the studio, then I would definitely notice and miss the sound of how Rick/Francis's guitars interplayed. This is missing from the later albums I know - only from HT onwards. So for that reason, I think they will get away with it sound-wise. But its also why I'm less keen on the later sound too and why those early tracks are my favs. That bridge in the middle of Little Lady...moves me everytime I hear it.
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Post by edd on Aug 13, 2019 10:06:48 GMT
I think you ask an interesting question gav - about knowing that Rick isn't on it. tbh - from the samples, I don't know what I really think about the album yet. It is a very interesting question. It is also worth considering the fact that Rick wasn't always fully involved with recent albums, and Francis sometimes had to cover for him in studio at various times. It makes me wonder how many songs didn't actually feature Rick at all...
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Aug 13, 2019 10:24:06 GMT
I think you ask an interesting question gav - about knowing that Rick isn't on it. tbh - from the samples, I don't know what I really think about the album yet. It is a very interesting question. It is also worth considering the fact that Rick wasn't always fully involved with recent albums, and Francis sometimes had to cover for him in studio at various times. It makes me wonder how many songs didn't actually feature Rick at all... Yes And I've also wondered about how many solos I thought were Francis but weren't
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Post by edd on Aug 13, 2019 10:59:30 GMT
It is a very interesting question. It is also worth considering the fact that Rick wasn't always fully involved with recent albums, and Francis sometimes had to cover for him in studio at various times. It makes me wonder how many songs didn't actually feature Rick at all... Yes And I've also wondered about how many solos I thought were Francis but weren't Yes totally, although I think most were Francis other than Pip Williams produced albums which sometimes featured Pip. Interesting to watch John Eden's breakdown of Baby Boy, Francis plays all guitars; Rick puts on sitar and that is it I think.
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Post by curiousgirl on Aug 13, 2019 11:57:35 GMT
I think you ask an interesting question gav - about knowing that Rick isn't on it. tbh - from the samples, I don't know what I really think about the album yet. It is a very interesting question. It is also worth considering the fact that Rick wasn't always fully involved with recent albums, and Francis sometimes had to cover for him in studio at various times. It makes me wonder how many songs didn't actually feature Rick at all... That's exactly my point Edd. Rick's sound was slipping away over the years on the majority of songs which I think was a sad loss to their unique sound.
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