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Post by MrWaistcoat on Mar 29, 2019 23:29:13 GMT
The vast bulk of the old “denim army”, still numbering thousands, don’t think Francis is upto making top drawer rock music
Francis is motivated by challenges. This is a huge one. . Like he proved Quo didn’t have to tour for JS to sell, like he battled to keep the band going while feeling the biz was all going against him. Many of them
He’s looking ahead, always. That’s where the hardcore go wrong. We can’t connect with him by talking about the old stuff. I don’t even think he may means what he says particularly , it just wouldn’t be on his mind. He doesn’t want the effort of looking back. He ends up being dismissive, because talking about usually isnt what he wants . Now I’ve read his book I get him.
If Francis set himself the challenge of making an EP “the hardcore” would like , it could turn into a nice little project with good publicity. It might open other doors for him. He’s still got a market. But of course , he’d have to be able to pull it all off, and I don’t think we think he can
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Post by markquo on Mar 30, 2019 7:34:33 GMT
Unfortunately there is no denim army numbering thousands Cheers
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 7:47:55 GMT
Francis and Bob are still more than capable of writing great Quo songs, it's whether Francis could bring himself to make them sound Quo too, something he hasn't really achieved for me since RTYD with glimmers of it on HT and QPQ.
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Post by blagult on Mar 30, 2019 9:28:57 GMT
Unfortunately there is no denim army numbering thousands Cheers This !! To be honest I would put it in the very low thousands. Maybe around the number that bought Ricks album. Also how many are keen followers ? Take the Quo Convension figures for example. If that had happened in the 70’s you would be booking far far bigger venues for it. Sadly it’s now passed glories !
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Mar 30, 2019 19:59:40 GMT
Well , depends on how you define it. If you look at how many folks bought FF dvd's and tickets, how many are on FF FB groups etc.....we are certainly talking thousands. Francis talks in his book about the success of aquostic 2 going top 5 (5000 sales). He has a top 5 bestseller, with sales of 3000 week one. He's happy at this time of his life for that level of success with a "project". The FF / old audience has barely been tested in decades. Rick's album went in a no 3. There's still fans out there. And of course, the fans he has for current Quo would still be interested in anything he did, even if it was rock.
So yeah there's nowhere near as many fans now, but only tiny numbers are needed to trouble modern charts. It's easier now to make a splash, get good publicity and continue, as Francis puts it, to "add to his story".
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Post by charles on Apr 1, 2019 6:23:37 GMT
… The FF / old audience has barely been tested in decades. Rick's album went in a no 3. There's still fans out there. And of course, the fans he has for current Quo would still be interested in anything he did, even if it was rock. ...Some of us might think this is sad, but I laughed out loud. Cheers rwc
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Apr 4, 2019 11:43:38 GMT
That would be a really nice idea (with Bob Young involved, like he said, he is a kind of compass where the Quo sound was concerned) ... It doesns't need a theoretical denim army of thousands. The true Quo sound reached plenty of other people who didn't see themselves as a "denim army" dedicated to Quo (me, for example). If he did this and did it well, it would entertain quite a few people apart from us survivors. He would need to trust in the two guitars and the three chords and put the time in to work out something which sounded new even though it was in the tradition. And look back to Roadhouse and 1970s blues as his underpinnings, even if what he came up with didn't sound like that in the end.
Iv'e long said they should all have been locked in a cellar and fed chips under the door till they came up with something good.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Apr 5, 2019 6:34:39 GMT
That would be a really nice idea (with Bob Young involved, like he said, he is a kind of compass where the Quo sound was concerned) ... It doesns't need a theoretical denim army of thousands. The true Quo sound reached plenty of other people who didn't see themselves as a "denim army" dedicated to Quo (me, for example). If he did this and did it well, it would entertain quite a few people apart from us survivors. He would need to trust in the two guitars and the three chords and put the time in to work out something which sounded new even though it was in the tradition. And look back to Roadhouse and 1970s blues as his underpinnings, even if what he came up with didn't sound like that in the end. Iv'e long said they should all have been locked in a cellar and fed chips under the door till they came up with something good. Like I say, depends on your definition of "denim army". Mine is broad. If you loved 70's Quo so much you continue to take an interest....and could be up for buying something new if Quo went rock again....then that's you included. To love and know the band as you do, Francis certainly would say you were "hardcore". I think it was only a section of the fanbase that bought into the "Quo Army" thing.
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Post by quolion on Apr 5, 2019 10:06:46 GMT
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 17, 2019 12:23:52 GMT
I think he's already set up a challenge for himself, that is to produce an album which (taking his words) "the world has waited for". He does not think the last few Quo albums have achieved this. Let's see what he's up to. If the point is to get more of a live sound (which I could interpolate from that eclipsed interview), then we might be in for something good.
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Post by gentlemanjoe on Apr 17, 2019 18:19:04 GMT
They’ve had two big chances to re establish themselves as a credible rock band since 1986, 1. Heavy Traffic and 2. Quid Pro Quo. Then suddenly nothing happened. They stopped when Rick got ill, the did the acoustic thing (although very good, flogged it endlessly) and then the Rossi solo stuff then all the Momentum had gone.
They are the greatesrt band for mucking up the big chances.
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Post by azza200 on Apr 17, 2019 21:07:12 GMT
Thing is the current live sound for example, take the Wacken & Last Night Of The Electric's releases that sound & mix is awful imo the guitar sound is horrible sounds to processed
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