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Post by markquo on Jan 8, 2016 12:20:20 GMT
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Post by curiousgirl on Jan 8, 2016 12:22:46 GMT
Didn't Francis say that Rick could play with them called PLC or something... was mentioned on Ricky's board. That was Rossi sticking the boot in and putting Rick back in his box, as at the time Rick was banging on about they should do more reunion gigs/tours.!! He definitely sounded snarky when he said it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 12:28:10 GMT
That was Rossi sticking the boot in and putting Rick back in his box, as at the time Rick was banging on about they should do more reunion gigs/tours.!! He definitely sounded snarky when he said it. Bet he's a right nasty barstooood really if he don't get his own way . |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 14:06:34 GMT
Rather the other way round if Quo would fold for whichever reason: Francis would continue with his solo stuff and record and tour with the Francis Rossi band again and Rick would retire and sell real estate in Spain. Francis is the musician and Rick is the rock star, so Rick wouldn't be interested in playing clubs/small venues with PLC, although he may do the occasional Rock Meets Classic thingy playing the hits to huge adoring audiences same as he did last year. Francis will never do that. That's a good view of the outcome of the split but how long would the Francis Rossi Band sustain interest? Not long imo. To be honest he should've rebooted his career back in the 80s after Alan was sacked. Francis and Rick will retire as Status Quo and it's a damn fine hook to hang your hat on . Guess Francis would strictly consider it a hobby, as he knows that it doesn't make him money. Just a little outlet for the insecure little show-off to still get up on a stage. Otherwise I assume he'd more concentrate on songwriting for others and producing. Back in the 80s common sense was out of the window with all of them (apart from John, who was 'merely' a heavy drinker) due to the drug abuse. So none of them had a realistic idea what was best for himself .. And yep, I agree, most probably Francis and Rick will finish Quo together amicably and with a big final farewell tour. It's the best option for both of them (and from a marketing POV as well  ) and it'll be some achievement after 50(+) years.  |
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Post by paradiseflats on Jan 8, 2016 16:41:36 GMT
That's a good view of the outcome of the split but how long would the Francis Rossi Band sustain interest? Not long imo. To be honest he should've rebooted his career back in the 80s after Alan was sacked. Francis and Rick will retire as Status Quo and it's a damn fine hook to hang your hat on . Guess Francis would strictly consider it a hobby, as he knows that it doesn't make him money. Just a little outlet for the insecure little show-off to still get up on a stage. Otherwise I assume he'd more concentrate on songwriting for others and producing. Back in the 80s common sense was out of the window with all of them (apart from John, who was 'merely' a heavy drinker) due to the drug abuse. So none of them had a realistic idea what was best for himself .. And yep, I agree, most probably Francis and Rick will finish Quo together amicably and with a big final farewell tour. It's the best option for both of them (and from a marketing POV as well ) and it'll be some achievement after 50(+) years. As he says that he plays cos he needs the money, I am sure if Rick left he would continue. I am not saying that is right or wrong but it would be the correct business decision. Im sure they would still sell tickets at least enough to make a good income. To me there is no evidence to suggest otherwise. |
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Post by paradiseflats on Jan 8, 2016 16:44:40 GMT
Scared is such a loaded word. The expression 'can't be arsed' is probably closer to the truth.
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Post by paradiseflats on Jan 8, 2016 16:45:23 GMT
Scared is such a loaded word. The expression 'can't be arsed' is probably closer to the truth.
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Post by madtom on Jan 8, 2016 18:51:14 GMT
He definitely sounded snarky when he said it. Bet he's a right nasty barstooood really if he don't get his own way . Well he was pretty nasty to Alan 30 years ago.... |
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Post by rockonquo on Jan 8, 2016 20:32:44 GMT
I think it's a gamble if Parfitt left cq. Rossi would finish cq & retire & Parfitt would start all over again touring in the uk only. Rather the other way round if Quo would fold for whichever reason: Francis would continue with his solo stuff and record and tour with the Francis Rossi band again and Rick would retire and sell real estate in Spain. Francis is the musician and Rick is the rock star, so Rick wouldn't be interested in playing clubs/small venues with PLC, although he may do the occasional Rock Meets Classic thingy playing the hits to huge adoring audiences same as he did last year. Francis will never do that. I remember that Francis was talking about retirement about 6 months ago, not talking to Rick and all that. Rick was worried that the band would finish near the 50 year milestone. But, I can see your view absolutely right, too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 9:08:47 GMT
Rather the other way round if Quo would fold for whichever reason: Francis would continue with his solo stuff and record and tour with the Francis Rossi band again and Rick would retire and sell real estate in Spain. Francis is the musician and Rick is the rock star, so Rick wouldn't be interested in playing clubs/small venues with PLC, although he may do the occasional Rock Meets Classic thingy playing the hits to huge adoring audiences same as he did last year. Francis will never do that. I remember that Francis was talking about retirement about 6 months ago, not talking to Rick and all that. Rick was worried that the band would finish near the 50 year milestone. But, I can see your view absolutely right, too. Yep, I remember that as well. It's something both of them do every now and them - some days they probably think of all the things they could do once they've retired (same as everybody else probably) - other days they say they can't imagine stopping ever .. Shows they're only human wanting everything at the same time  . That not talking to Rick happened during the 2013 winter tour when Francis was deeply unhappy with his new guitar and other things, probably in consequence. He later admitted (in an FTMO interview I believe) that he didn't enjoy the tour at all. I assume that triggered his thoughts of retirement. Then I had the feeling the acoustic tours and the overall success and acknowledgement the band received made him change his mind as in interviews later in 2014 he talked much more positively and was looking forward to Quo gigs and A2. Whether that's still the case after the last winter tour remains to be seen .. At the moment my guess is while they want to stop in the foreseeable future they're scared to really set a date, because then that would really be it and no option of changing their mind again after another farewell tour. The way it is now they can say 'Ok, one more year ..' every year, which is a comfortable position to be in. |
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Post by rockonquo on Jan 9, 2016 9:48:07 GMT
I remember that Francis was talking about retirement about 6 months ago, not talking to Rick and all that. Rick was worried that the band would finish near the 50 year milestone. But, I can see your view absolutely right, too. Yep, I remember that as well. It's something both of them do every now and them - some days they probably think of all the things they could do once they've retired (same as everybody else probably) - other days they say they can't imagine stopping ever .. Shows they're only human wanting everything at the same time . That not talking to Rick happened during the 2013 winter tour when Francis was deeply unhappy with his new guitar and other things, probably in consequence. He later admitted (in an FTMO interview I believe) that he didn't enjoy the tour at all. I assume that triggered his thoughts of retirement. Then I had the feeling the acoustic tours and the overall success and acknowledgement the band received made him change his mind as in interviews later in 2014 he talked much more positively and was looking forward to Quo gigs and A2. Whether that's still the case after the last winter tour remains to be seen .. At the moment my guess is while they want to stop in the foreseeable future they're scared to really set a date, because then that would really be it and no option of changing their mind again after another farewell tour. The way it is now they can say 'Ok, one more year ..' every year, which is a comfortable position to be in. Great post, snakelady. Let's see what they bring to the table this year. |
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Post by granny on Jan 9, 2016 9:59:20 GMT
Everyone talks about Francis wanting money because he is honest about it. From my observations Rick is far more in need of regular income than Francis. I suspect the attraction of the Classic meets rock gigs was that he just had to turn up, play and get paid. Somebody else was doing the organising, managing the logistics and support staff.
Status Quo is a well-oiled machine. It has a management set-up (even if not popular with some fans) to promote tours, book venues, transport musicians and gear and coordinate everything. For Rick to do a mini tour with Alan and John would be to risk financial loss.
As for John having had experience of organisation with his own band, the QuoFest at Crewe last year showed the limitations of that, with him being unaware that the whole event was raising money for the Shona's Smile charity.
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Post by Gaz on Jan 9, 2016 10:45:19 GMT
Everyone talks about Francis wanting money because he is honest about it. From my observations Rick is far more in need of regular income than Francis. I suspect the attraction of the Classic meets rock gigs was that he just had to turn up, play and get paid. Somebody else was doing the organising, managing the logistics and support staff. Status Quo is a well-oiled machine. It has a management set-up (even if not popular with some fans) to promote tours, book venues, transport musicians and gear and coordinate everything. For Rick to do a mini tour with Alan and John would be to risk financial loss. As for John having had experience of organisation with his own band, the QuoFest at Crewe last year showed the limitations of that, with him being unaware that the whole event was raising money for the Shona's Smile charity. Yep a fine post Granny. FF have totally satisfied with fans wanting more and CQ coming in for touchdown. But I'm beginning to think...will Francis (and management) actually call it a day? If I was them I'd leave it open. They might call iy TEOTR part 2 but will it be? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 12:10:18 GMT
There is no way I think that any comparative 'au revoir' would be linked in any way to the FF swansong in 84. Although the management don't appear to care about fans concerns regarding their attitude towards live shows, they are not daft enough to attempt such a link - bearing in mind polaricly different views sections of fans have about the different eras.
Its a pity though, because I think if CQ were to embrace their own music much more widely I think it would act to satisfy not only those who are fans of their back catalogue but I think they would earn much higher respect from completely alienated fans from the FF era.
My own position is that I am a biggest fan, first and foremost, of the FF era (I was 'born' into it in terms of when I became a fan) but I am also a fan of the CQ back catalogue. However, I am thoroughly alienated by the CQ.com attitude to live shows and priorities in general.
Taking into account the fact that CQ et management don't seem bothered about how their attitude is affecting large sections of long standing fans (presumably because they have enough modern era ones) then, hypothetically, I would highly welcome some breakaway activity that is FF related. Even if I think as above it is unlikely to happen.
Maybe Rick should just do it anyway! Who really cares anymore
The Status Quo brand is so heavily diluted now, based on various contorted re-constitutions of re-packaging hits over and over again that it has become like eating a shop bought prettily packaged, but largely synthetic over manufactured Lasagne, in contrast to the original Hunters style peasant dish origins of the dish which was sourced from scratch and served to the table fresh and packed with authentic flavour.
Oh to be an Italian mama preparing the hunters offerings in her open rustic Tuscan kitchen for the household meal, than heating up a packaged 'family of four' modern day offering in the microwave  |
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Post by paradiseflats on Jan 9, 2016 12:27:27 GMT
Everyone talks about Francis wanting money because he is honest about it. From my observations Rick is far more in need of regular income than Francis. I suspect the attraction of the Classic meets rock gigs was that he just had to turn up, play and get paid. Somebody else was doing the organising, managing the logistics and support staff. Status Quo is a well-oiled machine. It has a management set-up (even if not popular with some fans) to promote tours, book venues, transport musicians and gear and coordinate everything. For Rick to do a mini tour with Alan and John would be to risk financial loss. As for John having had experience of organisation with his own band, the QuoFest at Crewe last year showed the limitations of that, with him being unaware that the whole event was raising money for the Shona's Smile charity. As proven with Rhino, where there is clearly no demand, it is not the artist but promoter who shoulders the loss more often than not. If you think about the cost of a short tour, it would not be great. To turn a decent profit you don't need that big a turn out. I suspect you are talking about turn outs of 300-500 to break even. |
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