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Post by markquo on Nov 14, 2017 20:47:34 GMT
Was hoping the interview was to announce the name change to FRQ and he was off to play his peculiar middle of the road brand of Rossi rock Cheers
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Post by 4th Chord on Nov 14, 2017 21:14:04 GMT
For "analysing" Francis in the GMB interview, I get called a "Parf" elsewhere. So, abbreviating the surname of someone who is dead not only to try and sound cool but to use as a way of being derogatory to a person is considered good taste, is it? That would be the sanctimonious flouncer. Who gives a shit what he thinks. He clearly hated this board so much yet he can’t help but keep looking in. ‘Get a life’ indeed. The four characters that made up this amazing band were all flawed characters. They were rock stars with all the temptation that goes with it. I don’t doubt after 50 odd years recording and touring with the same person Frame and Rick had had enough of each other. I don’t hold that against either of them, what I do regret is the way they always went for the easy and safe options, rather than actually pushing the band much harder artistically, whether through the records or the live set.
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Post by curiousgirl on Nov 14, 2017 22:55:25 GMT
For those that want to find the interview on ITV player its around 8.12am.
I thought it was good. It was ALL about Francis and Rick and the absence of Rick. Piers Morgan seems to have known them both and kept the focus on their partnership. Even the short reference to the new line up was in reference to Rick giving his blessing for Richie taking over.
I didn't have a problem with how Francis was because he was positive about much of what he said. He hinted at problems, but he didn't go on about them. And he talked about what great company Rick was and how he enjoyed that. And their shared sense of humour in dark times. I thought he was respectful of Rick. But we all see things differently, I guess.
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Post by derryquo on Nov 15, 2017 1:33:13 GMT
For those that want to find the interview on ITV player its around 8.12am. I thought it was good. It was ALL about Francis and Rick and the absence of Rick. Piers Morgan seems to have known them both and kept the focus on their partnership. Even the short reference to the new line up was in reference to Rick giving his blessing for Richie taking over. I didn't have a problem with how Francis was because he was positive about much of what he said. He hinted at problems, but he didn't go on about them. And he talked about what great company Rick was and how he enjoyed that. And their shared sense of humour in dark times. I thought he was respectful of Rick. But we all see things differently, I guess. How did you feel about him not missing Rick anymore,the statement comparing Rick to George Best
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Post by rolandquo on Nov 15, 2017 6:10:49 GMT
Is it possible to post the complete Interview on youtube?
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Post by curiousgirl on Nov 15, 2017 9:53:07 GMT
For those that want to find the interview on ITV player its around 8.12am. I thought it was good. It was ALL about Francis and Rick and the absence of Rick. Piers Morgan seems to have known them both and kept the focus on their partnership. Even the short reference to the new line up was in reference to Rick giving his blessing for Richie taking over. I didn't have a problem with how Francis was because he was positive about much of what he said. He hinted at problems, but he didn't go on about them. And he talked about what great company Rick was and how he enjoyed that. And their shared sense of humour in dark times. I thought he was respectful of Rick. But we all see things differently, I guess. How did you feel about him not missing Rick anymore,the statement comparing Rick to George Best Unsurprised because they had been putting up with each other for years but they've not been close for a very long time. I'm sure initially the change was strange for Francis as he doesn't like change but now he's used to it. And for him, the band are doing fine and so he doesn't miss Rick. Looking at it from his point of view, this is unsurprising. As for the 2nd remark, sure its tough but I see Rick in a less rose-tinted way than maybe other fans. He did have problems with controlling his wild side which included drinking/drug taking to excess and that ruined his health. You know the other aspect about Best is that he was very talented too. But fame did go to his head, as I understand it. I know more about Alex Higgins who also had a similar path - though he lived longer. So painful though it might be to hear, I don't think its insulting. I think what is hard for us is to see the situation between Francis and Rick from their point of view. No-one can do that but them. Its is a unique pov. And that is why I don't believe Francis is being deliberately harsh. He is telling it how it is for him. And only him. Do I want to see Quo without Rick though, as a fan? No. His contribution to that sound for me can't be replaced.
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Post by freewilly on Nov 15, 2017 10:20:32 GMT
That "leak" from Rick's supposed book, the foreword, is ringing very true....
"He doesn't care a lot about me and the feeling is mutual"
That book could have opened the biggest can of worms...
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Post by musiktruhe on Nov 15, 2017 10:30:09 GMT
The first half year after the Rick accident in turkey Francis was only talking who great and fresh the new boys are. After the dead from Rick he was silence at all and now a few weeks before a poor selling UK tour he find fond words about Rick and the his friendship with him. Liar!
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Nov 15, 2017 11:07:26 GMT
That "leak" from Rick's supposed book, the foreword, is ringing very true.... "He doesn't care a lot about me and the feeling is mutual" That book could have opened the biggest can of worms... That may have been true but he said it after Turkey and I don't think you can say that is what he truly felt. He was changed others not just Francis said that he was no longer the Rick they knew. After a major traum it sometimes brings out a lot of anger and people say things they don't really mean but they can't help themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 11:21:09 GMT
That "leak" from Rick's supposed book, the foreword, is ringing very true.... "He doesn't care a lot about me and the feeling is mutual" That book could have opened the biggest can of worms... That may have been true but he said it after Turkey and I don't think you can say that is what he truly felt. He was changed others not just Francis said that he was no longer the Rick they knew. After a major traum it sometimes brings out a lot of anger and people say things they don't really mean but they can't help themselves. Francis was saying in interviews BEFORE the heart attack Rick had changed, had been drinking more, etc. He can try and convince people all he wants that he cared about Rick but it doesn't change the fact that him and the rest of the band laughed about Rick lying at home rather than recording his solo album.
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Post by Gaz on Nov 15, 2017 11:24:03 GMT
How did you feel about him not missing Rick anymore,the statement comparing Rick to George Best Unsurprised because they had been putting up with each other for years but they've not been close for a very long time. I'm sure initially the change was strange for Francis as he doesn't like change but now he's used to it. And for him, the band are doing fine and so he doesn't miss Rick. Looking at it from his point of view, this is unsurprising. As for the 2nd remark, sure its tough but I see Rick in a less rose-tinted way than maybe other fans. He did have problems with controlling his wild side which included drinking/drug taking to excess and that ruined his health. You know the other aspect about Best is that he was very talented too. But fame did go to his head, as I understand it. I know more about Alex Higgins who also had a similar path - though he lived longer. So painful though it might be to hear, I don't think its insulting. I think what is hard for us is to see the situation between Francis and Rick from their point of view. No-one can do that but them. Its is a unique pov. And that is why I don't believe Francis is being deliberately harsh. He is telling it how it is for him. And only him. Do I want to see Quo without Rick though, as a fan? No. His contribution to that sound for me can't be replaced. Agreeand you said it well. I can relate to the Francis/Rick POV as mentioned as im in a very similar position with my business partner of 34 years. As young fellas we did everything together.. rugby league, water skiing etc etc but as the years go on we still get on and we also don’t get on but we tolerate each other and yes we are exactly the same re: when difficult situations arise we joke on and carry on and we move forward.... sounds odd but it works and people often say how the f... do you guys still get on after all these years. I understand Francis’s feelings about the ‘no crying bit’ as there’s no chance I’d bawl if Jack ( my business partner) passed on as we’ve just been such a day to day part of each other’s life it’d be like he’s still there in a way... a blokey thing I don’t know.
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Post by freewilly on Nov 15, 2017 11:47:22 GMT
That "leak" from Rick's supposed book, the foreword, is ringing very true.... "He doesn't care a lot about me and the feeling is mutual" That book could have opened the biggest can of worms... That may have been true but he said it after Turkey and I don't think you can say that is what he truly felt. He was changed others not just Francis said that he was no longer the Rick they knew. After a major traum it sometimes brings out a lot of anger and people say things they don't really mean but they can't help themselves. Before I forget... Queen at the Bowl in 82, official attendance - 35,000 Quo at the Bowl in 84m, official attendance - 45,000
Queen didn't get a much bigger crowd, as footage and images also show
As for your point there, I'm not having it. It appears to be one rule for Francis and a different one for the rest. When Francis says something, he's just being honest and telling it as it is and everything must be soooooo hard for him... When Rick says something now, it's because of his health... When Alan says something now, it's because he's bitter and twisted...
I'm not going to lie, I find it peculiar. Not just with the band but, in any situation in life, how people take the side of the common denominator that appears to be the issue... I do though agree with your point about behaviour change with such a traumatic injury or health issue, as I can personally attest to that, but I do not think this was the case with Rick
We all know what Rick felt before his last heart issue. You can see it by what he says in the FF documentary and the looks he gives Francis at the end. Only the blind and deaf couldn't. "What about what I want?" "Best not to go there between me and him" Clear as day what he wanted and how he felt about Francis
So I honestly put it to you, why is it OK for Francis to say he doesn't miss Rick on stage and people say he's brilliant for telling the truth and being so honest and amazing etc etc Yet, when Alan says Francis ruined his life, which he did, he gets called bitter and all sorts of accusations are thrown at him?
As for this interview, I'm uncomfortable with the grinning and smirking in relation to Rick's death and health. I don't think you'll find Brian and Roger acting like that when talking about Freddie's health...
I don't want Francis to break down and cry. That's his business and he can deal with it whatever way he wants. But, the lack of any sort of tribute to Rick Parfitt is down right disgusting to be honest and not just him, I say that of every one of them.
Other than that, couldn't care less
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Post by vivfromcov on Nov 15, 2017 14:31:33 GMT
For those that want to find the interview on ITV player its around 8.12am. I thought it was good. It was ALL about Francis and Rick and the absence of Rick. Piers Morgan seems to have known them both and kept the focus on their partnership. Even the short reference to the new line up was in reference to Rick giving his blessing for Richie taking over. I didn't have a problem with how Francis was because he was positive about much of what he said. He hinted at problems, but he didn't go on about them. And he talked about what great company Rick was and how he enjoyed that. And their shared sense of humour in dark times. I thought he was respectful of Rick. But we all see things differently, I guess. Thanks for giving the time info! I've watched it once and found it more positive than I thought it was going to be..... I'll probably try to watch it again later on tv catchup rather than itv player. Those adverts are too irritating! I did feel uncomfortable when Francis smiled when talking about Rick's heart attack and the news of his death, but I put that down to a nervous response mechanism, I wouldn't call it smirking... In grief, we all have different ways of coping. For 50 years together, they joked about everything and that is still his way but maybe it is difficult for others to understand. I agree, I don't think he meant to be disrespectful. He was guarded somewhat which is not like him (maybe he has taken on board some comments...?) but in spite of what he said, I think he does miss Rick and cared for him like a brother in their life together. It has been recorded numerous times that Rick changed after the last heart attack but he also had been distancing himself from Francis for a long time. It's sad that he wasn't happy but it sounds like relationships were complicated for him. But Francis also has difficulties and seems to struggle in social skills.... sometimes not very diplomatic, sometimes not recognising others views..... Sure it could be seen as just being honest but when hurtful things are said, it can be difficult to forgive. Francis obviously made the decision to carry on with the band which is not going to please everyone but that is life. We all make judgement calls, sometimes they work, sometimes they don't (and everyone will have a different view of what a good outcome is). But sadly I think that it will be the amount of tickets sold for this tour that will influence the way forward, rather than any artistic aspirations or feelings towards Rick or other members of the band past or present or disgruntled comments by some fans. From a fan's point of view, there comes a time when it really is the end of the road.... the last straw etc. and that time is different for everyone....
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Post by wolfman on Nov 15, 2017 14:50:33 GMT
well...cant wait for ricks book...the truth is out there...
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Post by musiktruhe on Nov 15, 2017 15:05:52 GMT
It is more than time for the end of the road and I hope that it will be this time a dead end street.
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