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Post by MrWaistcoat on Sept 4, 2017 12:54:42 GMT
I've just listened to it in full - properly, on a good system at high volume
For some reason I thought it was a bit lightweight (Caroline on Planet Rock can certainly sound relatively light....), but I was wrong. The dirty, thumping Quo sound is in there. Just turn it up...
Basically, the album is a joy from start to finish. Very powerful, yet effortlessly melodic.
Back in the 80's, my metal-head mates would tease the simplicity, and pick out Alan as being a crap musician. Looking back, this influenced me a bit and made me more accepting of Rhino. What I noticed in listening afresh to Hello! is just how inventive and enjoyable many of his bass lines are. AIBN is a good example. He put a stamp on those songs...and not many bass players can do that.
I always used to skip Claudie, but I really enjoyed it. A country pop song (not my thing) but wow, what a performance. The solo and instrumental bits are a joy - a brilliant band, touching gold with whatever it did.
As for ROLD, has any album anywhere ever started better? To keep things fresh at gigs, I avoided listening both to hits and classic albums for many years. My avoidance started in the late 80's. With so much exposure to live versions, I'd forgotten how good ROLD is.
Now Rick has gone, the one positive for me is that as I no longer follow the band as it is, I have just gone back to listening to my favorite music again. And god Hello! is brilliant. And yes, listening properly does make you realise just how poor everything was in comparison after John left. I think a lot of the hardcore enjoyed the new stuff for what it was, and basically forgot how awesome the old stuff still is. The new stuff would usually get played by me quite a lot for weeks....but there's very little I'd go back to now.
When 86 came, I can just imagine Rick and Francis looking at this album and thinking "we sing all of this, we wrote most of it....we can do it all, we don't need the others.". And yes, to the casual fan it would sound like a Rick and (mostly) Francis dominated album. But it's the band chemistry and performance that lifts the songs to special. And special they are....all of them
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Post by freewilly on Sept 4, 2017 13:27:13 GMT
Without Alan, we wouldn't had the intro to BEL, 4500 Times and ROLD
Francis may have written ROLD but, knowing what we know now, he certainly didn't turn it into the epic it became
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Post by gav on Sept 4, 2017 15:55:50 GMT
Without Alan, we wouldn't had the intro to BEL, 4500 Times and ROLD Francis may have written ROLD but, knowing what we know now, he certainly didn't turn it into the epic it became Definitely associate the bass/guitar interplay on AIBN and BEL with Alan, and the intro to BFM is a case in point too.
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Post by Victor on Sept 4, 2017 16:05:37 GMT
Alan is a much better bass player then many give him credit for
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Post by 4th Chord on Sept 4, 2017 16:31:28 GMT
I've just listened to it in full - properly, on a good system at high volume For some reason I thought it was a bit lightweight (Caroline on Planet Rock can certainly sound relatively light....), but I was wrong. The dirty, thumping Quo sound is in there. Just turn it up... Basically, the album is a joy from start to finish. Very powerful, yet effortlessly melodic. Back in the 80's, my metal-head mates would tease the simplicity, and pick out Alan as being a crap musician. Looking back, this influenced me a bit and made me more accepting of Rhino. What I noticed in listening afresh to Hello! is just how inventive and enjoyable many of his bass lines are. AIBN is a good example. He put a stamp on those songs...and not many bass players can do that. I always used to skip Claudie, but I really enjoyed it. A country pop song (not my thing) but wow, what a performance. The solo and instrumental bits are a joy - a brilliant band, touching gold with whatever it did. As for ROLD, has any album anywhere ever started better? To keep things fresh at gigs, I avoided listening both to hits and classic albums for many years. My avoidance started in the late 80's. With so much exposure to live versions, I'd forgotten how good ROLD is. Now Rick has gone, the one positive for me is that as I no longer follow the band as it is, I have just gone back to listening to my favorite music again. And god Hello! is brilliant. And yes, listening properly does make you realise just how poor everything was in comparison after John left. I think a lot of the hardcore enjoyed the new stuff for what it was, and basically forgot how awesome the old stuff still is. The new stuff would usually get played by me quite a lot for weeks....but there's very little I'd go back to now. When 86 came, I can just imagine Rick and Francis looking at this album and thinking "we sing all of this, we wrote most of it....we can do it all, we don't need the others.". And yes, to the casual fan it would sound like a Rick and (mostly) Francis dominated album. But it's the band chemistry and performance that lifts the songs to special. And special they are....all of them It was the summer of 1982 when I got this album. Played it all school holidays and whenever I put it on it transports me right back to being a young teenager again. I HATE Caroline live by CQ, apart from Rick when he did the intro. Overplayed, boring, and Frame must be beyond bored shitless playing it....but then you put 'Hello' on, and it's magic, just magic.
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Post by freewilly on Sept 4, 2017 16:46:37 GMT
Alan is a much better bass player then many give him credit for Yep. Extremely creative and has a lot of soul. Speaking purely from a musician point of view, Rhino is a good player but, he's not Alan. Then again, Alan is/was so ingrained in Quo that any bass player would have been a let down He gets it!
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Post by Victor on Sept 4, 2017 16:49:35 GMT
Alan is a much better bass player then many give him credit for Yep. Extremely creative and has a lot of soul. Speaking purely from a musician point of view, Rhino is a good player but, he's not Alan. Then again, Alan is/was so ingrained in Quo that any bass player would have been a let down He gets it! Yep, agree completely
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Post by Railroad17 on Sept 4, 2017 19:31:58 GMT
An incredible album that ends with the everything and the kitchen sink 4500 times..what about those saxaphones!
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Sept 4, 2017 20:22:53 GMT
Caroline - love the live at the NEC version I would say it was great live - truly great - upto and including the Army tour. It became lighter and piano heavy, and increasingly just an arse about.
I was very big on the song for so long. Still remember being gutted when it was dropped one tour and paper plane opened (95?).
Is it really over exposure, or more the way the song evolved ?
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Sept 4, 2017 20:59:50 GMT
I've just listened to it in full - properly, on a good system at high volume For some reason I thought it was a bit lightweight (Caroline on Planet Rock can certainly sound relatively light....), but I was wrong. The dirty, thumping Quo sound is in there. Just turn it up... Basically, the album is a joy from start to finish. Very powerful, yet effortlessly melodic. Back in the 80's, my metal-head mates would tease the simplicity, and pick out Alan as being a crap musician. Looking back, this influenced me a bit and made me more accepting of Rhino. What I noticed in listening afresh to Hello! is just how inventive and enjoyable many of his bass lines are. AIBN is a good example. He put a stamp on those songs...and not many bass players can do that. I always used to skip Claudie, but I really enjoyed it. A country pop song (not my thing) but wow, what a performance. The solo and instrumental bits are a joy - a brilliant band, touching gold with whatever it did. As for ROLD, has any album anywhere ever started better? To keep things fresh at gigs, I avoided listening both to hits and classic albums for many years. My avoidance started in the late 80's. With so much exposure to live versions, I'd forgotten how good ROLD is. Now Rick has gone, the one positive for me is that as I no longer follow the band as it is, I have just gone back to listening to my favorite music again. And god Hello! is brilliant. And yes, listening properly does make you realise just how poor everything was in comparison after John left. I think a lot of the hardcore enjoyed the new stuff for what it was, and basically forgot how awesome the old stuff still is. The new stuff would usually get played by me quite a lot for weeks....but there's very little I'd go back to now. When 86 came, I can just imagine Rick and Francis looking at this album and thinking "we sing all of this, we wrote most of it....we can do it all, we don't need the others.". And yes, to the casual fan it would sound like a Rick and (mostly) Francis dominated album. But it's the band chemistry and performance that lifts the songs to special. And special they are....all of them They music special !! They music specialler than anyone else we've known.
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Post by Gaz on Sept 5, 2017 9:56:41 GMT
I've just listened to it in full - properly, on a good system at high volume For some reason I thought it was a bit lightweight (Caroline on Planet Rock can certainly sound relatively light....), but I was wrong. The dirty, thumping Quo sound is in there. Just turn it up... Basically, the album is a joy from start to finish. Very powerful, yet effortlessly melodic. Back in the 80's, my metal-head mates would tease the simplicity, and pick out Alan as being a crap musician. Looking back, this influenced me a bit and made me more accepting of Rhino. What I noticed in listening afresh to Hello! is just how inventive and enjoyable many of his bass lines are. AIBN is a good example. He put a stamp on those songs...and not many bass players can do that. I always used to skip Claudie, but I really enjoyed it. A country pop song (not my thing) but wow, what a performance. The solo and instrumental bits are a joy - a brilliant band, touching gold with whatever it did. As for ROLD, has any album anywhere ever started better? To keep things fresh at gigs, I avoided listening both to hits and classic albums for many years. My avoidance started in the late 80's. With so much exposure to live versions, I'd forgotten how good ROLD is. Now Rick has gone, the one positive for me is that as I no longer follow the band as it is, I have just gone back to listening to my favorite music again. And god Hello! is brilliant. And yes, listening properly does make you realise just how poor everything was in comparison after John left. I think a lot of the hardcore enjoyed the new stuff for what it was, and basically forgot how awesome the old stuff still is. The new stuff would usually get played by me quite a lot for weeks....but there's very little I'd go back to now. When 86 came, I can just imagine Rick and Francis looking at this album and thinking "we sing all of this, we wrote most of it....we can do it all, we don't need the others.". And yes, to the casual fan it would sound like a Rick and (mostly) Francis dominated album. But it's the band chemistry and performance that lifts the songs to special. And special they are....all of them Yes totally agree as those albums have earthiness about them... now throw on the QUO album.
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Post by 37 on Sept 5, 2017 19:20:44 GMT
For me, this is Quos greatest album. Almost perfect in every way.
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Post by americanquo on Sept 5, 2017 19:22:38 GMT
Alan is a much better bass player then many give him credit for Drastically better. Those who say he's crap have no understanding of rock as it's meant to be played.
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Post by americanquo on Sept 5, 2017 19:24:14 GMT
For me, this is Quos greatest album. Almost perfect in every way. The only one I like better is Quo. The truth is, I've been listening to Whatever You Want a lot lately and it is much better than I gave it credit for. Mostly it's a damned fine album. Hell, not mostly, it IS. I don't get the whole 'nothing after 76 was any good' mindset. This is hard rockin' Quo, just like Hello!
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Post by Victor on Sept 5, 2017 19:28:18 GMT
For me, this is Quos greatest album. Almost perfect in every way. The only one I like better is Quo. The truth is, I've been listening to Whatever You Want a lot lately and it is much better than I gave it credit for. Mostly it's a damned fine album. Hell, not mostly, it IS. I don't get the whole 'nothing after 76 was any good' mindset. This is hard rockin' Quo, just like Hello! For me that goes for WYW, JS and NTL, second great period of Quo imo.
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