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Post by azza200 on Aug 1, 2017 18:29:19 GMT
Rossi has been saying the same shit on stage now from what i can recall since the early 90's same false winks and nods etc now its literally a parody of the band. The iconic of shots of Rick & Francis having a chat during a song or solo he is the doing the same with Ritchie, Andy,Rhino and its really cringey to watch. As other have said the same old shit. They had some good lighting rigs back in the day i agree Quoincidence their stage lighting rig's are dull and uninspired i have seen more tribute bands of various bands with better lighting set ups then what Quo have have over the last 5-10 years
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 19:59:38 GMT
The intro sounds like something from you tube that a hundred others have done while playing in their bedroom, Ricks intro was special/magical even back in 73. Just a guess but id image 60/80% of the crowds couldn't give a toss whos on the stage as long as they sort of sound like STATUS QUO ..
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Post by kachunk on Aug 1, 2017 20:53:30 GMT
The intro sounds like something from you tube that a hundred others have done while playing in their bedroom, Ricks intro was special/magical even back in 73. Just a guess but id image 60/80% of the crowds couldn't give a toss whos on the stage as long as they sort of sound like STATUS QUO .. This mob sounds sort of like Status Quo,as in the same way that JCQ sort of sounds like Status Quo. One set of sound-a-likes can officially use the name and are higher up in the food chain but the other one,whilst lower down the food chain,actually respects the music that was created and the people that come to see them. If Dublin 2014 had been Status Quo's final act,then they could have restored their dignity and reputation but in true post 85 Quo fashion,defeat was snatched from the jaws of victory by carrying on with Quo lite. And Mr.Porter reckons there was public demand for this?. Tragic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 10:56:58 GMT
The intro sounds like something from you tube that a hundred others have done while playing in their bedroom, Ricks intro was special/magical even back in 73. Just a guess but id image 60/80% of the crowds couldn't give a toss whos on the stage as long as they sort of sound like STATUS QUO .. This mob sounds sort of like Status Quo,as in the same way that JCQ sort of sounds like Status Quo. One set of sound-a-likes can officially use the name and are higher up in the food chain but the other one,whilst lower down the food chain,actually respects the music that was created and the people that come to see them. If Dublin 2014 had been Status Quo's final act,then they could have restored their dignity and reputation but in true post 85 Quo fashion,defeat was snatched from the jaws of victory by carrying on with Quo lite. And Mr.Porter reckons there was public demand for this?. Tragic. Mr and Mrs Smith get to see the guy that was on This Morning promoting the tour plus a couple of the hits are played so that's all that matters.
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Post by gav on Nov 7, 2017 18:40:18 GMT
Got a copy of the LNOTE DVD and watched bits of it. One thing i noticed about Richie's guitar is, on it's own (as it is on small sections of Softer Ride) it's as loud as all 3 guitars put together, but when Rossi & Bown come back in it almost disappears underneath Rossi's (as does Bown's)...
Why would that be?
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Post by azza200 on Nov 7, 2017 19:18:34 GMT
Badly mixed could be the reason but is probably not. What songs have you sat thru so far?
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Post by Detroit on Nov 7, 2017 19:27:01 GMT
I won't waste my time viewing it. In fact, I wasted time typing this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 20:15:19 GMT
Got a copy of the LNOTE DVD and watched bits of it. One thing i noticed about Richie's guitar is, on it's own (as it is on small sections of Softer Ride) it's as loud as all 3 guitars put together, but when Rossi & Bown come back in it almost disappears underneath Rossi's (as does Bown's)... Why would that be? Because Francis has told the live sound guys that his guitar must be much higher in the mix, he did this immediately that Rick was too ill to play, as you say Richie's guitar sounds good when he has a lead or solo section then it's back to Francis's green monstrosity drowning everything out. Having seen them a couple of times this year the situation live has improved somewhat but the sound is still skewed and rhythm guitar light. Francis's ego had the chance to steal even more limelight once Rick wasn't there to stop him. Richie as a new boy probably wouldn't have the confidence to complain and after all these years Andy is used to it and besides is way too polite.
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Post by gav on Nov 7, 2017 21:19:10 GMT
Got a copy of the LNOTE DVD and watched bits of it. One thing i noticed about Richie's guitar is, on it's own (as it is on small sections of Softer Ride) it's as loud as all 3 guitars put together, but when Rossi & Bown come back in it almost disappears underneath Rossi's (as does Bown's)... Why would that be? Because Francis has told the live sound guys that his guitar must be much higher in the mix, he did this immediately that Rick was too ill to play, as you say Richie's guitar sounds good when he has a lead or solo section then it's back to Francis's green monstrosity drowning everything out. Having seen them a couple of times this year the situation live has improved somewhat but the sound is still skewed and rhythm guitar light. Francis's ego had the chance to steal even more limelight once Rick wasn't there to stop him. Richie as a new boy probably wouldn't have the confidence to complain and after all these years Andy is used to it and besides is way too polite. Cheers. I have little knowledge of these things, but obviously Francis' guitar isn't technically "too loud" in the mix, so would there be some sort of limiter in place, otherwise the guy/s on the desk would have to manage the guitars manually? Like i say, i ain't got a clue!
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Post by curiousgirl on Nov 8, 2017 8:22:29 GMT
Got a copy of the LNOTE DVD and watched bits of it. One thing i noticed about Richie's guitar is, on it's own (as it is on small sections of Softer Ride) it's as loud as all 3 guitars put together, but when Rossi & Bown come back in it almost disappears underneath Rossi's (as does Bown's)... Why would that be? Because Francis has told the live sound guys that his guitar must be much higher in the mix, he did this immediately that Rick was too ill to play, as you say Richie's guitar sounds good when he has a lead or solo section then it's back to Francis's green monstrosity drowning everything out. Having seen them a couple of times this year the situation live has improved somewhat but the sound is still skewed and rhythm guitar light. Francis's ego had the chance to steal even more limelight once Rick wasn't there to stop him. Richie as a new boy probably wouldn't have the confidence to complain and after all these years Andy is used to it and besides is way too polite. Interesting and very sad to read how silly Francis has become. But his rivalry over guitar sound levels with Rick is also documented in Patty Parfitt's book. And supports your points. It looks like he seized the chance to change this as soon as he could. I'm particularly not impressed because one of the joys of the Quo sound to me was the interplay of rhythm/lead guitar which to my ears, always sounded complex - and in a good way. So even if Richie is able to bring that to the mix, we're not getting that benefit. Poor Richie. Its a poison chalice of a job for him. But if they band ends soon, its given him a good break which I'm sure he can build on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 9:38:36 GMT
Because Francis has told the live sound guys that his guitar must be much higher in the mix, he did this immediately that Rick was too ill to play, as you say Richie's guitar sounds good when he has a lead or solo section then it's back to Francis's green monstrosity drowning everything out. Having seen them a couple of times this year the situation live has improved somewhat but the sound is still skewed and rhythm guitar light. Francis's ego had the chance to steal even more limelight once Rick wasn't there to stop him. Richie as a new boy probably wouldn't have the confidence to complain and after all these years Andy is used to it and besides is way too polite. Cheers. I have little knowledge of these things, but obviously Francis' guitar isn't technically "too loud" in the mix, so would there be some sort of limiter in place, otherwise the guy/s on the desk would have to manage the guitars manually? Like i say, i ain't got a clue! On pro desks levels can be set at whatever levels you want so they always equalize, more basic desks you can easily do this manually and vary from song to song to whatever is required, it's just sad that ego has caused the Quo guitar sound to alter so radically.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 9:43:28 GMT
Because Francis has told the live sound guys that his guitar must be much higher in the mix, he did this immediately that Rick was too ill to play, as you say Richie's guitar sounds good when he has a lead or solo section then it's back to Francis's green monstrosity drowning everything out. Having seen them a couple of times this year the situation live has improved somewhat but the sound is still skewed and rhythm guitar light. Francis's ego had the chance to steal even more limelight once Rick wasn't there to stop him. Richie as a new boy probably wouldn't have the confidence to complain and after all these years Andy is used to it and besides is way too polite. Interesting and very sad to read how silly Francis has become. But his rivalry over guitar sound levels with Rick is also documented in Patty Parfitt's book. And supports your points. It looks like he seized the chance to change this as soon as he could. I'm particularly not impressed because one of the joys of the Quo sound to me was the interplay of rhythm/lead guitar which to my ears, always sounded complex - and in a good way. So even if Richie is able to bring that to the mix, we're not getting that benefit. Poor Richie. Its a poison chalice of a job for him. But if they band ends soon, its given him a good break which I'm sure he can build on. The rivalry as you say has gone back years, I think that was another benefit of the FF that it kept Francis in check to a greater degree but it was this that contributed to them fragmenting. I totally agree about the interplay between the guitars, that was always one of the main parts of the Quo sound, like Bruce Welch and Hank Marvin, neither really sounds as good without the other. I very much hope, though remain doubtful, that if the band return properly in 2019 that Francis will allow the sound to be more balanced, if not as you say I hope Richie manages to maintain a career in music with him as lead singer in his own band. Time will tell but that young guy is talented so I'm sure we'll hear more from him whatever happens.
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Post by nino on Nov 8, 2017 18:33:04 GMT
[one of the joys of the Quo sound to me was the interplay of rhythm/lead guitar which to my ears, always sounded complex - and in a good way I totally agree about the interplay between the guitars, that was always one of the main parts of the Quo sound To quote our dear Ricky on this (one of my favourite quotes ever): "If you play my Tele, it sounds like another Tele, if you play Frames Tele, it sounds like another Tele, if you play them together - it sounds like Status Quo!"
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Post by nino on Nov 8, 2017 19:09:17 GMT
Heeey, my (ok, ok, Rickys ) quote made it to the top of the page
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Nov 9, 2017 0:08:03 GMT
Got a copy of the LNOTE DVD and watched bits of it. One thing i noticed about Richie's guitar is, on it's own (as it is on small sections of Softer Ride) it's as loud as all 3 guitars put together, but when Rossi & Bown come back in it almost disappears underneath Rossi's (as does Bown's)... Why would that be? Because Francis has told the live sound guys that his guitar must be much higher in the mix, he did this immediately that Rick was too ill to play, as you say Richie's guitar sounds good when he has a lead or solo section then it's back to Francis's green monstrosity drowning everything out. Having seen them a couple of times this year the situation live has improved somewhat but the sound is still skewed and rhythm guitar light. Francis's ego had the chance to steal even more limelight once Rick wasn't there to stop him. Richie as a new boy probably wouldn't have the confidence to complain and after all these years Andy is used to it and besides is way too polite. This makes me particularly sad, because many of Francis choices can be explained by his love of other types of music, but just cranking his guitar over Richie's I can't see how that makes anything better. If for some reason he's not 100% (or let's say 95%) confident of Richie's output, he should be assisting Richie, not just being louder.
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