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Post by madturk on Mar 19, 2017 21:40:57 GMT
I never knew that the long instrumental section in the live version of 4500 Times was a cover of a song called Race With The Devil by Judas Priest.
I heard it on Planet Rock and immediately recognised it.
Maybe I'm the last person to have realised!!!!
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Mar 19, 2017 21:47:40 GMT
The Original is from the 60s by Gun.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Mar 20, 2017 1:07:55 GMT
I recognised it the first time I heard it. There's probably all kinds of stuff buried in 4500 Times. The trick I guess is what you put in and what you leave out
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Mar 20, 2017 1:16:30 GMT
The Original is from the 60s by Gun. He certainly makes the most of that riff I had forgotten about the Gurvitz brothers. They formed a band with Ginger Baker for a while. Both still alive and well, I think.
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Post by slowtrain7 on Mar 20, 2017 4:12:00 GMT
I always thought that Race With The Devil was plagiarised from QUO's Tune To The Music, have a look at the timeline, which was recorded first. Just about every riff and hook from 4500 Times has been stolen by Foo Fighters and QOTSA and Eagles of Death Metal and hundreds of other bands. I hear QUO riffs all the time being used by other people. Show QUO the royaltie$. Only QUO are allowed to use their own riffs in other songs. Imitation is the highest form of flattery. Go The QUO, the greatest music entity to walk the Planet. Chuck Berry influenced everybody.
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Post by slowtrain7 on Mar 20, 2017 4:27:00 GMT
I'm fairly certain that Gunn stole the lick/riff from QUO!! There's only about 6 mths between the 2 songs that being Tune To The Music and Race With The Devil. I noticed this in 1970. Tune To The Music is an obscure QUO song that rarely appears on their own compilations. It's actually one of my fave QUO songs. That short transition period B4 Ma Kelly's is truly a beautiful part of QUO's history. Paradise Flat and When My Mind Is Not Live amongst other gems. A short window in time that opened and closed very quickly.
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Post by curiousgirl on Mar 20, 2017 7:15:10 GMT
I've looked up the dates for Race with the Devil - 1967 and Tune to the Music - 1971. Interesting theory but dates don't back this up. Unless of course I've looked in the wrong places.
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Mar 20, 2017 8:13:13 GMT
I always thought that Race With The Devil was plagiarised from QUO's Tune To The Music, have a look at the timeline, which was recorded first. Just about every riff and hook from 4500 Times has been stolen by Foo Fighters and QOTSA and Eagles of Death Metal and hundreds of other bands. I hear QUO riffs all the time being used by other people. Show QUO the royaltie$. Only QUO are allowed to use their own riffs in other songs. Imitation is the highest form of flattery. Go The QUO, the greatest music entity to walk the Planet. Chuck Berry influenced everybody. None of them bands stole any of Quo's riffs. None.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Mar 20, 2017 14:27:11 GMT
I've looked up the dates for Race with the Devil - 1967 and Tune to the Music - 1971. Interesting theory but dates don't back this up. Unless of course I've looked in the wrong places. Well spotted. I know Tune to the Music, no idea from where, it's not on the albums and I don't have a single with it on. Must be from my favourite compilation. Wikip says RWTD is 1968 (published) but that is still way before TTTM appeared. No idea where the 6 months could have come from ... Gun had become another band by 1971. They were active in the late 60s.
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Post by per on Mar 20, 2017 15:11:29 GMT
Didnt know that Priest has recorded it actually. But there's a great version by Girlschool, recorded in the very early eighties I believe
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Post by wolfman on Mar 20, 2017 15:37:52 GMT
running with devil was good too...van halen
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Mar 20, 2017 15:41:51 GMT
running with Devil was good too...The Phantom Corrected that for you.....
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Post by Quoincidence on Mar 20, 2017 15:54:21 GMT
It's only like them nabbing the riff from "Shakin' All Over" for Roadhouse Blues... Didn't know where that section had come from until I'd heard the original track on the radio
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Post by wolfman on Mar 20, 2017 16:00:16 GMT
The Original is from the 60s by Gun. some deep purple influence too..
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Mar 20, 2017 16:10:55 GMT
I've looked up the dates for Race with the Devil - 1967 and Tune to the Music - 1971. Interesting theory but dates don't back this up. Unless of course I've looked in the wrong places. Well spotted. I know Tune to the Music, no idea from where, it's not on the albums and I don't have a single with it on. Must be from my favourite compilation. Wikip says RWTD is 1968 (published) but that is still way before TTTM appeared. No idea where the 6 months could have come from ... Gun had become another band by 1971. They were active in the late 60s. There are similarities with TTTM but the riff is also quite different. You can normally find it on re-releases of DOTH these days. It was a non album single from that year 1971. The Race with the Devil Riff first appeared in a Quo song with the Live versions of IIRM/GGH. While much later a similar riff also appeared in Diggin Burt Bacharach from Heavy Traffic.
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