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Post by viking55 on Mar 5, 2017 21:45:24 GMT
Do my previous replies not explain what I am getting at ? They do to me ! Francis has every right to continue using the name if he so wants and even if it is for the Kerching. Is it not Kerchimg that drives the other things I mention ? I don't believe JC would gig for nothing nor Robert Ellis produce free Ltd edition posters. Nor would tribute bands gig for nothing. Ok I agree tributes do it for the love as well . I am not denying them the right of doing what they are doing in whatever field they are doing it. But that's why I personally don't have the problem that other people have with Francis going what he wants to do with his brand name. That's the sum of it. Nothing more from me on it !
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Mar 5, 2017 21:46:05 GMT
Do my previous replies not explain what I am getting at ? They do to me ! Francis has every right to continue using the name if he so wants and even if it is for the Kerching. Is it not Kerchimg that drives the other things I mention ? I don't believe JC would gig for nothing nor Robert Ellis produce free Ltd edition posters. Nor would tribute bands gig for nothing. Ok I agree tributes do it for the love as well . I am not denying them the right of doing what they are doing in whatever field they are doing it. But that's why I personally don't have the problem that other people have with Francis going what he wants to do with his brand name. That's the sum of it. Nothing more from me on it ! No he doesn't.
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Post by wolfman on Mar 5, 2017 21:46:13 GMT
Do my previous replies not explain what I am getting at ? They do to me ! Francis has every right to continue using the name if he so wants and even if it is for the Kerching. Is it not Kerchimg that drives the other things I mention ? I don't believe JC would gig for nothing nor Robert Ellis produce free Ltd edition posters. Nor would tribute bands gig for nothing. Ok I agree tributes do it for the love as well . I am not denying them the right of doing what they are doing in whatever field they are doing it. But that's why I personally don't have the problem that other people have with Francis going what he wants to do with his brand name. That's the sum of it. Nothing more from me on it ! BULLSHIT
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Post by wolfman on Mar 5, 2017 21:52:26 GMT
PLEASE DONT LIKE MY POST SQUIRE IT WAS INTENDED FOR YOU ..MIND GAMES EH..
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Post by kachunk on Mar 5, 2017 21:57:30 GMT
I am fully aware that he is hated on here by a small section of past fans of SQ and any alternative of supporting him is treated with utter disdain. But no one defending him is trying to take the high moral ground or are on some sort of high horse. They are just offering the counter argument / debate ! Now surely if I can take all the crap that comes my way for having that view then the posts should be treated with a little Adult respect even if they are vehemently disagreed with ! Nobody who is against Francis is getting on their high horse or taking the moral high ground. And that is simply because they don't need to - the facts speak for themselves: It was Francis that insisted the band change direction. It was Francis who instigated John's dismissal. It was Francis who convinced the rest of the band to quit touring in 1984 and told them and the public blatant lies as to why he wanted to quit. He has single handedly got rid of everyone in the FF and if he could have backed up his megalomania with quality records,then his behaviour could have been justified. And even if we are past fans of SQ,so what?. They have been creatively bankrupt for 35 years and think it's ok to charge £40-50 for the exact same set every year because it "flows". Let's choose a football analogy: They went from being a top six Premier League side to being a Sunday morning pub side.
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Post by viking55 on Mar 5, 2017 22:00:20 GMT
Just a waste of time on here isn't it. Things like one word ' Bullshit ' replies or the classic ' Rossi s a .... sums up the mentality really. Basically shouted down time after time by people who wouldn't even fill 2 rows of a Quo gig. So I'll take my leave of this board and let's see how the world of SQ pans out. They are nearing the JD anyway and I don't have the time or interest to come up against the same childish replies anymore. I'll leave you all to pat each other on the back now !
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Post by Quoincidence on Mar 5, 2017 22:00:20 GMT
Well viking... Photographers make money from selling prints of their pictures or licensing them off so yano he has to sell them, you seem to be forgetting that John is the only member of that group getting royalties from a band he was once in, how'd you expect the others to get paid if they weren't doing paid gigs? Rossi could just go off and do a solo tour, he'd still be making money... the only reason he tours under the Quo name is because there's next to no interest in his solo career... it took him 3 tries for him to go out and tour as a solo Artist, the first two times were flops and the third time he wrote some news songs and did Quo songs that he wrote/cowrote where as the first two albums were all his own music.
Do you think before you post the things you do?
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Post by 4th Chord on Mar 5, 2017 22:00:31 GMT
Ok.... it's an anti- Rossi emotional thing. Thanks for clearing that up. Then really its just a board for kicking off at him then ad he is always wrong. No it's not stiring the pot Q it's about debating on a MB some VALID points and arguments. Do I not have a valid point ? A MB us for debating isn't it ? Or is only 1 point of view acceptable here ?? Seems to me that if you offer an alternative valid argument here the same people just kick off and shout down the alternative ! Well, that's a load of old shite. Are you saying your argument is the only 'valid' one then? If you're unhappy, please do bugger off. Hope that helps.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Mar 5, 2017 22:01:30 GMT
My own personal opinion is that the band with 2 long standing members and 1 original still have the right to use the name. After all if you use 1962 as a starting point Francis has been the only original member since 1986.
Regarding JC Quo I don't know if it's just the material thats played which is the main issue for many. Lots of fans are happy to go and see JC but not the current band and it's been like that before last year. Is that just because he plays the material that they want to hear.
If Francis played a set consisting of the same material I don't think we would have seen half as many arguments over the years that we have. Older fans don't like the newer music that's fine I accept that. Me I like it though not enough of the good stuff is represented live. That's a different story though I have not seen the band live now for about 9 years due to the fact that the set list never really changed enough for my liking. They have had golden oppertunitys to change things round but never did. That's why Francis solo set was good it was something different.
I have heard JC Quo on FB and yes some of it is very good but for me the tempo of the songs is too slow and I'm not keen on the vocals. I have always liked Francis singing voice, I will agree that Rhino's voice is not great. Andy is ok and we don't know if Ritchie sings or not.
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Post by 4th Chord on Mar 5, 2017 22:04:56 GMT
I am fully aware that he is hated on here by a small section of past fans of SQ and any alternative of supporting him is treated with utter disdain. But no one defending him is trying to take the high moral ground or are on some sort of high horse. They are just offering the counter argument / debate ! Now surely if I can take all the crap that comes my way for having that view then the posts should be treated with a little Adult respect even if they are vehemently disagreed with ! That works both ways. There is plenty reasoned debate as to why people feel the way they do about Frame. If that doesn't sit well with you then fine, make your counter points. The moment you start making sweeping negative generalisations about this board, is the day you need to consider if this board is for you. Patronising statements about being 'Adult' are noted, but I suggest you need to look at some of your posts in this thread and reflect on what 'adult' means. I could point out your staggering assumption being made in your original post. It's not that Frame is making money by continuing as Status Quo, it's the manner in which he is doing it. Big difference.
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Post by 4th Chord on Mar 5, 2017 22:07:12 GMT
Just a waste of time on here isn't it. Things like one word ' Bullshit ' replies or the classic ' Rossi s a .... sums up the mentality really. Basically shouted down time after time by people who wouldn't even fill 2 rows of a Quo gig. So I'll take my leave of this board and let's see how the world of SQ pans out. They are nearing the JD anyway and I don't have the time or interest to come up against the same childish replies anymore. I'll leave you all to pat each other on the back now ! Cheerio then. About time we had another childish flounce on here. Hey, I found this on your Facebook page Viking55! How dare you criticise Francis and his right to release whatever he wants as Status Quo! "Nice pic of Francis Rossi as he dumps the new song "Fiji Time" on SQ fans, the worst song EVER released under the name Status Quo". I love the smell of hypocrisy in the, err, evening.
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Post by 4th Chord on Mar 5, 2017 22:11:30 GMT
Thread locked, seeing as Viking55 is 'taking his leave'.
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