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Post by freewilly on Mar 5, 2017 18:17:51 GMT
If this thread is actually serious, if the OP is actually being serious, then I have to say...
I have no clue what exactly the point of it is
Must be a wind up
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Post by viking55 on Mar 5, 2017 18:18:56 GMT
See I would like to have it explained ' stiring the pot ' !! Surely there is no pot to be stirred !!! All I have done is raised some TRUE observations and stating my opinion based on those observations that telling Francis what he can or can't do is wrong ! Now tell me what ' pot ' that stirs ?
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Post by wolfman on Mar 5, 2017 18:21:40 GMT
Ok I am not trying to be funny here but just a clear observation. We now have Robert Ellis selling Ltd edition posters of the band now ! Don't get me wrong it's financially a nice little earner isn't it ! We have JCQ doing predominantly more gigs than they ever did. Tribute bands splashing gig posters all over FB. I think you may get where I am coming from. Is the Francis Rossi issue just certain people having double standards or should I say being selective with the their beliefs ? I assume everyone has got permission from the brand for playing their songs or producing merch ? so SQ ltd will be receiving royalties or whatever ? So They are all paying into Francis pension fund as well. This is just an observation ! the difference is rossi wants to distance his sen from quo but likes the money...the tribute bands love quo..but what you say dosnt make sense...please redial and try again..
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Post by viking55 on Mar 5, 2017 18:27:45 GMT
See I would like to have it explained ' stiring the pot ' !! Surely there is no pot to be stirred !!! All I have done is raised some TRUE observations and stating my opinion based on those observations that telling Francis what he can or can't do is wrong ! Now tell me what ' pot ' that stirs ? This.
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Post by freewilly on Mar 5, 2017 18:29:29 GMT
See I would like to have it explained ' stiring the pot ' !! Surely there is no pot to be stirred !!! All I have done is raised some TRUE observations and stating my opinion based on those observations that telling Francis what he can or can't do is wrong ! Now tell me what ' pot ' that stirs ? John playing songs he helped create, in a band that's not claiming to be Status Quo? Nowt wrong with that. Tribute bands playing the music they love? Nowt wrong with that. A photographer selling photographs he owns? Again, nowt wrong with that. Francis Rossi tearing apart a great band, shitting on his best mate (That's Alan incase you turn it around and accuse me of something) and then, keeping a band going and claiming it's Status Quo, when it's not, is clearly wrong! No one is telling him to stop playing, no one is telling him to stop writing, but some of us are not deluded and don't let our "pro-Rossi" thing affect our judgement or views. Also, you do stir the pot and cause shit....I saw you post to Ive on the other board, stating Rick wasn't as vital to the band as people think, in a deliberate attempt to piss him off...You started a thread on here about AC/DC only having one member left, purely to get a dig in at the people who think the name Status Quo shouldn't be used anymore And again here.....I have no clue what you are even talking about, if you're being serious
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Post by curiousgirl on Mar 5, 2017 18:34:26 GMT
Ok.... it's an anti- Rossi emotional thing. Thanks for clearing that up. Then really its just a board for kicking off at him then ad he is always wrong. No it's not stiring the pot Q it's about debating on a MB some VALID points and arguments. Do I not have a valid point ? A MB us for debating isn't it ? Or is only 1 point of view acceptable here ?? Seems to me that if you offer an alternative valid argument here the same people just kick off and shout down the alternative ! My view is that I'm not anti Francis. I accept that he wanted to go in another direction and as he has to stand up on stage and perform, and I don't, then that's okay. I choose not to go. But I don't have an issue with those who are upset over this. Nor to I think those that still choose to go are fools. It is all about choice. I think its fine for you to air the view of still supporting Francis and Quo. But what I don't get, but which I detect, is moral superiority in your view over those that disagree with you. For example 1st line is very patronising.
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Post by curiousgirl on Mar 5, 2017 18:34:43 GMT
If this thread is actually serious, if the OP is actually being serious, then I have to say... I have no clue what exactly the point of it is Must be a wind up Agreed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 18:35:06 GMT
Hi All, As for memorabilia there will always be a mkt for whatever band. If the material is owned by an individual then surely he is allowed to do what he likes with them ? I would have thought being as whoever had already gotten permission in the 1st place and so long he states they are his own whatever whether it be photos or drawings etc.etc. there should be no problem. Maybe as a courtesy inform the SQ management of what he is about to do ?
As for the band and music it is up to whoever wants to listen and buy the material output. As for the bands name I think that FR should now call the band FR's-SQ simple! he is the only original FF member unless you count AB being named a full SQ member in recent years.
If nothing else FR should rename the band out of respect to RP there are no FF members other than him. As for everything else that is often discussed about him I would say it's the passion he and the FF have created with their music. Honestly it's is his decision to do whatever, I like many others may not like those decisions but none the less they are his choice, but continuing as Status Quo that is just not on especially since RP's passing simple! (RIP Rick )
Geoff.
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Post by curiousgirl on Mar 5, 2017 18:36:11 GMT
Ok I am not trying to be funny here but just a clear observation. We now have Robert Ellis selling Ltd edition posters of the band now ! Don't get me wrong it's financially a nice little earner isn't it ! We have JCQ doing predominantly more gigs than they ever did. Tribute bands splashing gig posters all over FB. I think you may get where I am coming from. Is the Francis Rossi issue just certain people having double standards or should I say being selective with the their beliefs ? I assume everyone has got permission from the brand for playing their songs or producing merch ? so SQ ltd will be receiving royalties or whatever ? So They are all paying into Francis pension fund as well. This is just an observation ! the difference is rossi wants to distance his sen from quo but likes the money...the tribute bands love quo..but what you say dosnt make sense...please redial and try again.. Yes, this is a good view of those that are upset over Francis view. And that's why I don't want to go either.
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Post by curiousgirl on Mar 5, 2017 18:38:58 GMT
See I would like to have it explained ' stiring the pot ' !! Surely there is no pot to be stirred !!! All I have done is raised some TRUE observations and stating my opinion based on those observations that telling Francis what he can or can't do is wrong ! Now tell me what ' pot ' that stirs ? This. This post is a wonderful example of how you feel superior to many members on here. We have been told and it is noted.
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Post by viking55 on Mar 5, 2017 18:45:02 GMT
Hi All, As for memorabilia there will always be a mkt for whatever band. If the material is owned by an individual then surely he is allowed to do what he likes with them ? I would have thought being as whoever had already gotten permission in the 1st place and so long he states they are his own whatever whether it be photos or drawings etc.etc. there should be no problem. Maybe as a courtesy inform the SQ management of what he is about to do ?
As for the band and music it is up to whoever wants to listen and buy the material output. As for the bands name I think that FR should now call the band FR's-SQ simple! he is the only original FF member unless you count AB being named a full SQ member in recent years.
If nothing else FR should rename the band out of respect to RP there are no FF members other than him. As for everything else that is often discussed about him I would say it's the passion he and the FF have created with their music. Honestly it's is his decision to do whatever, I like many others may not like those decisions but none the less they are his choice, but continuing as Status Quo that is just not on especially since RP's passing simple! (RIP Rick )
Geoff. Thank you for debating the issue. I respect your view and beliefs even if I don't agree with them.
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Mar 5, 2017 19:50:12 GMT
Let’s see here… First you say: If you don't like it. Don't listen or buy it. What's the problem? Can I turn that on it's head then and issue the same statement to those who have an issue with FR. In other words don't comment ! And then: Ok.... it's an anti- Rossi emotional thing. Thanks for clearing that up. Then really its just a board for kicking off at him then ad he is always wrong. No it's not stiring the pot Q it's about debating on a MB some VALID points and arguments. Do I not have a valid point ? A MB us for debating isn't it ? Or is only 1 point of view acceptable here ?? Seems to me that if you offer an alternative valid argument here the same people just kick off and shout down the alternative ! So basically, if you don’t like the SOMOGAG you’d better not say a word------ You know that there is a place where tafkar is a tad higher regarded than this place, right? If you don’t like the ways the shareholder is discussed here, defend him by all means, but please dismount from that high horse… You’ll get plenty of flak but…. It goes with the subject.
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Post by viking55 on Mar 5, 2017 20:54:54 GMT
I am fully aware that he is hated on here by a small section of past fans of SQ and any alternative of supporting him is treated with utter disdain. But no one defending him is trying to take the high moral ground or are on some sort of high horse. They are just offering the counter argument / debate ! Now surely if I can take all the crap that comes my way for having that view then the posts should be treated with a little Adult respect even if they are vehemently disagreed with !
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Post by Quoincidence on Mar 5, 2017 21:16:45 GMT
I am fully aware that he is hated on here by a small section of past fans of SQ and any alternative of supporting him is treated with utter disdain. But no one defending him is trying to take the high moral ground or are on some sort of high horse. They are just offering the counter argument / debate ! Now surely if I can take all the crap that comes my way for having that view then the posts should be treated with a little Adult respect even if they are vehemently disagreed with ! Did you treat Ive with that same respect you're looking for though? (On C&C)... I don't think you did and I'm sure you might have even referred to him as a delusional parfitt fan? shall have to check on that one. People can have any opinion over here, you're just getting the wrong end of it. If people like Rossi and think they should continue fair enough, we all agree to disagree... but they make solid points whereas you haven't. You're wondering why people bash Rossi for continuing on under the Quo name still by trying to justify it with points that are completely polar opposite. What does Robert Ellis selling Quo posters have to do with this? What does JCQ have to do with this? What do Tribute bands have to do with this? John Coghlans never tried to claim his band are "Status Quo" hence why its JCQ, same for tribute bands... and I've already said this but Robert is selling photos that are HIS. When a photographer takes a picture of the band it is still the photographers, it doesnt become the bands property... they have to license it off them/him. So I'll ask... what does those 3 points have to do with Francis Rossi, continuing using the Quo name for a band that simply is not Quo any more? And don't say that it is simply cause Rhino has been in the band longer than Alan... It might be so but he didn't make the band what it is and he hasn't written any iconic songs for the band IMO... Rossi is a great musician but his personality seems to be nothing more than a bit of an arsehole... and of course an "insecure little show off"
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Mar 5, 2017 21:40:57 GMT
As usual your post is the biggest pile of muleshite.
Also, Francis is a ****. There's endless evidence to back this up. End of.
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