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Post by gentlemanjoe on Mar 5, 2017 12:05:36 GMT
Must admit I prefer Quid Pro Quo, although Heavy Traffic comes a close 2nd.
I could easily live without the rest
A few too many fillers on HT, I really like Never Say Never. it seemed to be Mats drumming that seemed to put the backbone back into the live and recorded performances.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 12:15:49 GMT
Solid Gold is one of the songs always skipped on HT.
It sounds very bland Quo by numbers to me, and, following its predecessors on the album is a good example of where ideas were running out because of too much focus on one dimension. Further on after SG comes the likes of Another Day which even more underpins a samey-ness theme and is as limp and clap-along filler material as Its All About You and My Old Ways for example on QPQ.
HT does however finish on a different and much better note, and much more imaginatively than QPQ, with the appealing atmospheric change of lick c/o Rhythm of Life
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 12:21:23 GMT
I know I feel different about this album then most...to me it's never been a too good album, it comes across too cold and sterile to me...like them trying too hard to be old glory and not succeeding...I have always preferred UTI to this, maybe not as heavy but just appeals more to me Yes, as posted recently, UTI is preferable to me too.
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Post by 4th Chord on Mar 5, 2017 12:32:23 GMT
Unfortunately, I can't say there's any Quo album past B2B that makes me want to listen to it. Now and then I'll stick a track on but only usually after someone mentions it on here. Sad but true. Even Heavy Traffic, which I thought was ok at the time, was really just ok because it came after so much dross, and was perhaps quite unexpected.
That said, All Stand Up (Never say Never) is pretty decent.
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Post by sincity on Mar 5, 2017 18:22:55 GMT
I know I feel different about this album then most...to me it's never been a too good album, it comes across too cold and sterile to me...like them trying too hard to be old glory and not succeeding...I have always preferred UTI to this, maybe not as heavy but just appeals more to me That pretty much sums up how i feel about QPQ to be honest.
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Post by Victor on Mar 5, 2017 18:32:32 GMT
I know I feel different about this album then most...to me it's never been a too good album, it comes across too cold and sterile to me...like them trying too hard to be old glory and not succeeding...I have always preferred UTI to this, maybe not as heavy but just appeals more to me That pretty much sums up how i feel about QPQ to be honest. Feel totally different about QPQ, I like that one actually. We all differ in taste I suppose.
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Post by freewilly on Mar 5, 2017 18:33:56 GMT
Still think Heavy Traffic was a massively missed chance as a 1st single.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 19:26:37 GMT
Hi All, This is probably because I am the forum simpleton but I don't know why we are all so critical about the CQ music on past albums, to me it's simple you either like whatever album or you don't! No the music isn't the chug-chug-Head Banging-Air Guitar Playing that the FF produced in their heyday but the influence is their on certain tracks from most of the albums with exception AC pure poprock IMHO...
The point is Quo have changed from a raw rock band into a finer tuned poprock band, FR has had those same expectations when writing since the reformation doing it his way. I assume as has been evident by the bands musical direction FR stayed on that path as the music industry they where part off changed through the years, along with music fans tastes instead of keeping to the music that made the band so popular in the 1st place.
The above changes have in turn infuriated some while others have accepted the changes, as for Heavy traffic it is one of the heavier output albums from CQ but nothing like the FF. How could it be ? there was only Rick and himself left with the influence of John and Alan obviously missing in the sound of the band it suffered. Along with the playing styles of different drummers and Rhino the lead vocals have stayed the same though with addition of Rhino's voice every now and then (Take it or leave it) until Rick's passing it has been a very different Quo sound(RIP Rick )
At the end of the day you either like the music or not simple! you can't compare the two bands the FF sound is completely different to the psychedelic sound of early Quo. So it's only natural that with new members CQ sounds a different band to FF, they play the music Quo where known for so the sound is similar when playing that material, other than that the new music is different again IMHO..
Geoff.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 19:39:06 GMT
I only found this album about 6 years ago when I got back into Quo. I quite like it and play it often.
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Post by Railroad17 on Mar 5, 2017 19:56:10 GMT
First track is OK and then we're off to the land of twiddle diddle solo's that are the trademark of The Rossi/Parfitt group since the demise of Status Quo in 1981.Compared to this stuff 1982 is a rock masterpiece.I've tried really hard to like the stuff since 1986 but I don't like it.Amazing how critics seem to like QPQ and the other rubbish when their predecessors so happily slaughtered Hello.I bought ITAN with it's patronizing and insulting cover(Would they have gone with this in the States?)and found I could only play it once.Ain't Complaining was crap(I compare all albums since ITAN to OTL as a fair and balanced album).Perfect Remedy was crap and I really didn't like Power Of Rock 'n' Roll because I knew what was going to happen when it was played live.Rock Til'You Drop was another let down and it was about now I sort of gave up on them ever getting near even IYCSTH standard.Of course it's all opinion and mines no more informed than anybody else's.
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Post by viking55 on Mar 5, 2017 21:02:06 GMT
Hi All, This is probably because I am the forum simpleton but I don't know why we are all so critical about the CQ music on past albums, to me it's simple you either like whatever album or you don't! No the music isn't the chug-chug-Head Banging-Air Guitar Playing that the FF produced in their heyday but the influence is their on certain tracks from most of the albums with exception AC pure poprock IMHO...
The point is Quo have changed from a raw rock band into a finer tuned poprock band, FR has had those same expectations when writing since the reformation doing it his way. I assume as has been evident by the bands musical direction FR stayed on that path as the music industry they where part off changed through the years, along with music fans tastes instead of keeping to the music that made the band so popular in the 1st place.
The above changes have in turn infuriated some while others have accepted the changes, as for Heavy traffic it is one of the heavier output albums from CQ but nothing like the FF. How could it be ? there was only Rick and himself left with the influence of John and Alan obviously missing in the sound of the band it suffered. Along with the playing styles of different drummers and Rhino the lead vocals have stayed the same though with addition of Rhino's voice every now and then (Take it or leave it) until Rick's passing it has been a very different Quo sound(RIP Rick )
At the end of the day you either like the music or not simple! you can't compare the two bands the FF sound is completely different to the psychedelic sound of early Quo. So it's only natural that with new members CQ sounds a different band to FF, they play the music Quo where known for so the sound is similar when playing that material, other than that the new music is different again IMHO..
Geoff. Great post ! Yes 2 entirely different bands but I don't get blinkered into hating everything post FF. most albums have some great tracks on them along with some poor tracks. Compared to the 1982 album HT is s masterpiece !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 12:35:58 GMT
Hi All, This is probably because I am the forum simpleton but I don't know why we are all so critical about the CQ music on past albums, to me it's simple you either like whatever album or you don't! No the music isn't the chug-chug-Head Banging-Air Guitar Playing that the FF produced in their heyday but the influence is their on certain tracks from most of the albums with exception AC pure poprock IMHO...
The point is Quo have changed from a raw rock band into a finer tuned poprock band, FR has had those same expectations when writing since the reformation doing it his way. I assume as has been evident by the bands musical direction FR stayed on that path as the music industry they where part off changed through the years, along with music fans tastes instead of keeping to the music that made the band so popular in the 1st place.
The above changes have in turn infuriated some while others have accepted the changes, as for Heavy traffic it is one of the heavier output albums from CQ but nothing like the FF. How could it be ? there was only Rick and himself left with the influence of John and Alan obviously missing in the sound of the band it suffered. Along with the playing styles of different drummers and Rhino the lead vocals have stayed the same though with addition of Rhino's voice every now and then (Take it or leave it) until Rick's passing it has been a very different Quo sound(RIP Rick )
At the end of the day you either like the music or not simple! you can't compare the two bands the FF sound is completely different to the psychedelic sound of early Quo. So it's only natural that with new members CQ sounds a different band to FF, they play the music Quo where known for so the sound is similar when playing that material, other than that the new music is different again IMHO..
Geoff. Great post ! Yes 2 entirely different bands but I don't get blinkered into hating everything post FF. most albums have some great tracks on them along with some poor tracks. Compared to the 1982 album HT is s masterpiece ! With respect, the suggestion of being blinkered into hating everything post FF is also a disregard of individual opinion in itself.
Instead its just a case that there are folk, who simply don't like any of it and don't listen to it - and I say this as one who likes a reasonable amount of the product, even if the FF hey-day remains, in my view, incomparable in terms of the overall scene.
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Post by 4th Chord on Mar 6, 2017 13:04:42 GMT
Great post ! Yes 2 entirely different bands but I don't get blinkered into hating everything post FF. most albums have some great tracks on them along with some poor tracks. Compared to the 1982 album HT is s masterpiece ! With respect, the suggestion of being blinkered into hating everything post FF is also a disregard of individual opinion in itself.
Instead its just a case that there are folk, who simply don't like any of it and don't listen to it - and I say this as one who likes a reasonable amount of the product, even if the FF hey-day remains, in my view, incomparable in terms of the overall scene.
Indeed. As a fan of the FF, there was only a short period where I 'gave up' on Quo. The dreadful late eighties, early nineties. I would think the majority of Quo fans can agree that wasn't their finest hour. Since then, well, I still consider myself a fan, even though I've not enjoyed a lot of the 'product' since then. Still been to gigs, listened to the odd track, but still adore that early period. That makes me an 'ex fan' according to some. I guess as Elvis is no longer with us, then everyone who liked him is also an 'ex fan'. That's how ridiculous that thought process is. As a FAN of the band, my patience was rewarded over two glorious years of FF gigs. As a FAN, I think we have every right to comment on, and criticise, band decisions. It's very telling how some defend these decisions as 'because the band is a business'. How very rock 'n' roll. A 'business'. Frame has said as much for years. How is that supposed to excite fans, suspecting that his heart isn't really in it? It's all water under the bridge, but perhaps an alternative timeline might have been to make the best damned music they could, and play bigger, but far less, in the way of gigs. Quality over quantity. Unfortunately they went the other way, and here we are today, with a band losing it's heart with the death of Rick, yet happy to keep flogging a legacy that died with him. I'd have more respect for Frame if he'd announced a new set, or just explained that he wants to continue playing, but acknowledging that things would be different. Shoehorning in Andy, Rhino and potentially Richie to sing Rick's songs is just bad form, and still no details on Rick's remembrance gig. So Henrik/Viking, when you spout off about looking forward to Richie singing and people moan, and how we give Frame a hard time, it's because we CARE so fucking much about this band that we've loved forever.
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Post by freewilly on Mar 6, 2017 14:15:55 GMT
With respect, the suggestion of being blinkered into hating everything post FF is also a disregard of individual opinion in itself.
Instead its just a case that there are folk, who simply don't like any of it and don't listen to it - and I say this as one who likes a reasonable amount of the product, even if the FF hey-day remains, in my view, incomparable in terms of the overall scene.
Indeed. As a fan of the FF, there was only a short period where I 'gave up' on Quo. The dreadful late eighties, early nineties. I would think the majority of Quo fans can agree that wasn't their finest hour. Since then, well, I still consider myself a fan, even though I've not enjoyed a lot of the 'product' since then. Still been to gigs, listened to the odd track, but still adore that early period. That makes me an 'ex fan' according to some. I guess as Elvis is no longer with us, then everyone who liked him is also an 'ex fan'. That's how ridiculous that thought process is. As a FAN of the band, my patience was rewarded over two glorious years of FF gigs. As a FAN, I think we have every right to comment on, and criticise, band decisions. It's very telling how some defend these decisions as 'because the band is a business'. How very rock 'n' roll. A 'business'. Frame has said as much for years. How is that supposed to excite fans, suspecting that his heart isn't really in it? It's all water under the bridge, but perhaps an alternative timeline might have been to make the best damned music they could, and play bigger, but far less, in the way of gigs. Quality over quantity. Unfortunately they went the other way, and here we are today, with a band losing it's heart with the death of Rick, yet happy to keep flogging a legacy that died with him. I'd have more respect for Frame if he'd announced a new set, or just explained that he wants to continue playing, but acknowledging that things would be different. Shoehorning in Andy, Rhino and potentially Richie to sing Rick's songs is just bad form, and still no details on Rick's remembrance gig. So Henrik/Viking, when you spout off about looking forward to Richie singing and people moan, and how we give Frame a hard time, it's because we CARE so fucking much about this band that we've loved forever. Top post and 100% true.
I feel a great degree of sadness when I look across to the other place and I see Alan and John be torn apart in a patronising way. And now, Rick stating "It's not Quo without me" is him lying apparently, a throwaway opinion and Ritchie should sing his songs....I personally find that extremely distasteful and worse than anything ever said on here
It's been a depressing, slow and sad end since 2007.....
Still, back to Heavy Traffic...While it certainly didn't rival the real Quo between 1970 and 1981, it came the closest. That period between 2002 and 2004 was brilliant. It felt like a band, it wasn't just "Oh cheeky chappies, Rossi and Parfitt" anymore. NSN, SG, CUOY, HT, B&R, TO, YCR and TOY were all good songs and they were all promoted correctly and without resorting to the lowest form. Live too, they were on the ball. The HT themed tour, with the radio report, was ace!
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Mar 6, 2017 16:12:15 GMT
This is only my opinion but for me (Ignoring covers albums) UTI, Heavy Traffic, TPAOY, ISOTFC, QPQ. Are as good a run of albums as RAOTW, IYCSTH, WYW, JS, NTL. They were never going to top the FF era albums that's for sure.
I think most long term bands have a top class run, a pretty good one. A very dull one and finally a rebirth one.
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