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Post by 4th Chord on Feb 8, 2017 18:11:52 GMT
Posted by John on his FB page.
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Post by madtom on Feb 8, 2017 19:13:34 GMT
Thanks for posting. He seems to be singing from the same hymn sheet as many of us on here!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 19:14:22 GMT
Hi All, 4th Chord Just been on there site nothing showing at all Was this a preview of the next issue do you know ?
Geoff.
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Post by viking55 on Feb 8, 2017 22:33:13 GMT
Hmmm....somehow Mr Coghlan telling Francis he shouldn't be doing anymore Electrics with Quo but is guite satisfied that his band are doing exactly that. Somewhere i think Mr Rossi is having a larf about it with his cuppa and a rich tea biscuit !
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Post by curiousgirl on Feb 8, 2017 22:43:53 GMT
Hi All, 4th Chord Just been on there site nothing showing at all Was this a preview of the next issue do you know ?
Geoff. Hi Geoff, The online version of the magazine is no more. But the original publishers, Future publishing who sold the magazine to make a profit 3 years ago to a US company who have since gone bust, have now bought it back (along with other titles) to save the printed version. So it should be in the shops v soon. Look out for Rick on the cover.
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Post by madtom on Feb 8, 2017 22:52:28 GMT
Hmmm....somehow Mr Coghlan telling Francis he shouldn't be doing anymore Electrics with Quo but is guite satisfied that his band are doing exactly that. Somewhere i think Mr Rossi is having a larf about it with his cuppa and a rich tea biscuit ! If he thought he'd got up John's nose then yes, maybe Francis would have a good laugh about it. I took John's comment to mean some fans might be upset about paying to see what they thought would be the last electric shows only to discover that they might not be the last ones after all. Had this tour not been marketed as the last electric one, I can't see that John would have had a problem with subsequent electric shows.
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Post by viking55 on Feb 8, 2017 23:19:06 GMT
I think the fans who would be offended are the ones who wouldn't have bought a ticket anyway. Yes point taken though. I still say Francis has every right to do what he wants especially if other former members are doing exactly that. If Richie coming in has given Francis a new lease of life, which was evident on this tour in his playing then I say got for it Francis .
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Feb 8, 2017 23:44:42 GMT
Hmmm....somehow Mr Coghlan telling Francis he shouldn't be doing anymore Electrics with Quo but is guite satisfied that his band are doing exactly that. Somewhere i think Mr Rossi is having a larf about it with his cuppa and a rich tea biscuit ! If he thought he'd got up John's nose then yes, maybe Francis would have a good laugh about it. I took John's comment to mean some fans might be upset about paying to see what they thought would be the last electric shows only to discover that they might not be the last ones after all. Had this tour not been marketed as the last electric one, I can't see that John would have had a problem with subsequent electric shows. On a fan level I am inclined to agree. But it's a bit like the FF shows --- some people were annoyed because they thought the first run were gonig to be the ones and onlies, and then there was another lot. But spoilsports like me thought that was a good thing Yes I've been grollied around by certain bands, NNNPD, not announcing gigs till people have booked other gigs, but not Quo - I've never been to a Quo gig just because I thought it would be the last one, so they've never ruffled my feathers on that front. Most people who go to Quo gigs are generally happy to see them coming round again. Face it, they have a track record on that front, across decades and what is it three different managers now? I do think there is a touch of dodgy marketing there. But they haven't yet announced a "Return of the Electrics" tour in the UK The main reason for stopping at the end of 2017 - Rick's health problems - suddenly turned into something completely different Sorry John, no offense but JC's Quo is a tribute band. It plays the repertoire of a band that it isn't, solely. He says that is what it does. I see no dishonour in that, I like tribute bands, they are in a way something I hoped for from a young age. But some people are sneery about them, so it must be galling to him to be considered a trib when he is an original member. "How can I be a tribute to myself?" Er ... Why not? It's not a tribute to himself, anyway, it's a tribute to the material and the original band.
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Post by dennis on Feb 9, 2017 0:07:22 GMT
If he thought he'd got up John's nose then yes, maybe Francis would have a good laugh about it. I took John's comment to mean some fans might be upset about paying to see what they thought would be the last electric shows only to discover that they might not be the last ones after all. Had this tour not been marketed as the last electric one, I can't see that John would have had a problem with subsequent electric shows. On a fan level I am inclined to agree. But it's a bit like the FF shows --- some people were annoyed because they thought the first run were gonig to be the ones and onlies, and then there was another lot. But spoilsports like me thought that was a good thing Yes I've been grollied around by certain bands, NNNPD, not announcing gigs till people have booked other gigs, but not Quo - I've never been to a Quo gig just because I thought it would be the last one, so they've never ruffled my feathers on that front. Most people who go to Quo gigs are generally happy to see them coming round again. Face it, they have a track record on that front, across decades and what is it three different managers now? I do think there is a touch of dodgy marketing there. But they haven't yet announced a "Return of the Electrics" tour in the UK The main reason for stopping at the end of 2017 - Rick's health problems - suddenly turned into something completely different Sorry John, no offense but JC's Quo is a tribute band. It plays the repertoire of a band that it isn't, solely. He says that is what it does. I see no dishonour in that, I like tribute bands, they are in a way something I hoped for from a young age. But some people are sneery about them, so it must be galling to him to be considered a trib when he is an original member. "How can I be a tribute to myself?" Er ... Why not? It's not a tribute to himself, anyway, it's a tribute to the material and the original band. It's no more a tribute band than Francis Rossi's Quo. Two bands with an original member of Status Quo trading on that name & mostly playing material from the '70s. Having said that, I'm sure there are some tribute bands out there who probably consider they do a better job than either JC's Quo or FR's Quo!
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Post by freewilly on Feb 9, 2017 8:44:41 GMT
If he thought he'd got up John's nose then yes, maybe Francis would have a good laugh about it. I took John's comment to mean some fans might be upset about paying to see what they thought would be the last electric shows only to discover that they might not be the last ones after all. Had this tour not been marketed as the last electric one, I can't see that John would have had a problem with subsequent electric shows. Sorry John, no offense but JC's Quo is a tribute band. It plays the repertoire of a band that it isn't, solely. No offence but, what hell are Francis' Quo without Rick, Alan and John then?
A tribute band, that plays a repertoire of a band it isn't and never was. And whilst I have this feeling a usual suspect or two are going to clamour in with the usual "It's still the same Quo as the 70s" and "You're always having a go at Francis" I'm afraid I'm sticking to my view.*
*Last sentence wasn't aimed at you
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Feb 9, 2017 9:05:32 GMT
Sorry John, no offense but JC's Quo is a tribute band. It plays the repertoire of a band that it isn't, solely. No offence but, what hell are Francis' Quo without Rick, Alan and John then?
A tribute band, that plays a repertoire of a band it isn't and never was. And whilst I have this feeling a usual suspect or two are going to clamour in with the usual "It's still the same Quo as the 70s" and "You're always having a go at Francis" I'm afraid I'm sticking to my view.*
*Last sentence wasn't aimed at you
For me and this is just my opinon re band members. It comes down to length of time in a band and how much new material they have released. Andy has been in Quo since 1976 and recorded 18 original studio albums with the band, Rhino has recorded 10 with them. When you record with a band and write you become a member to me. Like David Coverdale and Glenn Hughes were members of Deep Purple, in spite of the Ian Gillan, Roger Glover era being better. Now again for me when a band is releasing new material it cannot be a tribute band. If the band had not recorded new albums like Slade. Then I would consider them a tribute band as I do with the current Slade lineup. That's not a dig it's just that for me a band records new records and tours. So for me Quo are now a 3 piece band with 1 guest and a hired hand. Until 2013 Quo were a 5 Piece and when Matt left became a 4 piece. Leon has recorded with Quo but I don't class the Aquostic albums as proper albums they are self covers albums.
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Post by freewilly on Feb 9, 2017 9:25:55 GMT
No offence but, what hell are Francis' Quo without Rick, Alan and John then?
A tribute band, that plays a repertoire of a band it isn't and never was. And whilst I have this feeling a usual suspect or two are going to clamour in with the usual "It's still the same Quo as the 70s" and "You're always having a go at Francis" I'm afraid I'm sticking to my view.*
*Last sentence wasn't aimed at you
For me and this is just my opinon re band members. It comes down to length of time in a band and how much new material they have released. Andy has been in Quo since 1976 and recorded 18 original studio albums with the band, Rhino has recorded 10 with them. When you record with a band and write you become a member to me. Like David Coverdale and Glenn Hughes were members of Deep Purple, in spite of the Ian Gillan, Roger Glover era being better. Now again for me when a band is releasing new material it cannot be a tribute band. So for me Quo are now a 3 piece band with 1 guest and a hired hand. Until 2013 Quo were a 5 Piece and when Matt left became a 4 piece. Leon has recorded with Quo but I don't class the Aquostic albums as proper albums they are self covers albums. If the band had not recorded new albums like Slade. Then I would consider them a tribute band as I do with the current Slade lineup. That's not a dig it's just that for me a band records new records and tours.
Fair enough but, I can't see it any different tbh.
Both have one original member. Both do gigs covering the peak years, with members who never played on them or recorded them.
I don't knock John for his side of it tbh. To a certain degree, I don't knock Francis either. As a musician, you'll do anything to play a gig...However, it's come to light recently that Francis has wanted to quit Quo since the late 70's and he's always going on about his solo stuff so, from my POV, he's been an utter arse and he needs to stop that band now and do his solo stuff. It's more dignified than flogging a dead horse. He's even admitted he doesn't know what else to do with Quo.
I also don't have a problem with Andy. I like him. Rhino, I do have a problem with and it's based on his playing. Alan could barely hold a plectrum at the reunion gigs and still played the bass better than Rhino, within those songs.....Case in point, Oh Baby. Alan hits the notes on the bass in time, thus creating that driving sound that the song needs....Fast forward 5 months and CQ put Oh Baby in their set. Rhino was playing it very lazy and slowed the bass line down, thus taking the drive out of the song and making it flat. Another one is Living On An Island. Alan plays a majestic, well written and soulful bass line. Rhino never plays that bass line. Down Down is another Rhino never plays correctly like Alan. I read a post on the other forum, saying if we closed our eyes, we wouldn't notice the difference between the two. Erm, yes we would! We're not stupid!
People think I have this issue because of the people in the band....It's not personal. It's the fact the playing and music has not been as good since 1984. Although, it's hard not to have an issue with Francis Rossi. He says one thing one minute, than contradicts himself the next minute.
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Post by viking55 on Feb 9, 2017 11:09:01 GMT
The Lord F you have it absolutely spot on...nail on head well and trully hit. JCQ Legendary and best drummer ever with Status Quo. The rest..couldn't tell you there names and never been associated with SQ. Status Quo present. 3 yes 3 ! Actual long standing members of the band who have recorded and TOURED as Status Quo = Status Quo End of because this is not an FF issue really is it ! Its all about the right for Status Quo to continue !
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Feb 9, 2017 12:16:56 GMT
Sorry John, no offense but JC's Quo is a tribute band. It plays the repertoire of a band that it isn't, solely. No offence but, what hell are Francis' Quo without Rick, Alan and John then?
A tribute band, that plays a repertoire of a band it isn't and never was. And whilst I have this feeling a usual suspect or two are going to clamour in with the usual "It's still the same Quo as the 70s" and "You're always having a go at Francis" I'm afraid I'm sticking to my view.*
*Last sentence wasn't aimed at you
Thanks, that's OK, and the case that current CQ is a reflex Trib is quite strong, as they haven't produced a new album for a while and they don't play anything from the last one at present. "Being your own tribute band" seems to be a recognised situation among older bands right now
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Post by cammythemortonfan on Feb 9, 2017 12:36:40 GMT
For me and this is just my opinon re band members. It comes down to length of time in a band and how much new material they have released. Andy has been in Quo since 1976 and recorded 18 original studio albums with the band, Rhino has recorded 10 with them. When you record with a band and write you become a member to me. Like David Coverdale and Glenn Hughes were members of Deep Purple, in spite of the Ian Gillan, Roger Glover era being better. Now again for me when a band is releasing new material it cannot be a tribute band. So for me Quo are now a 3 piece band with 1 guest and a hired hand. Until 2013 Quo were a 5 Piece and when Matt left became a 4 piece. Leon has recorded with Quo but I don't class the Aquostic albums as proper albums they are self covers albums. If the band had not recorded new albums like Slade. Then I would consider them a tribute band as I do with the current Slade lineup. That's not a dig it's just that for me a band records new records and tours.
Fair enough but, I can't see it any different tbh.
Both have one original member. Both do gigs covering the peak years, with members who never played on them or recorded them.
I don't knock John for his side of it tbh. To a certain degree, I don't knock Francis either. As a musician, you'll do anything to play a gig...However, it's come to light recently that Francis has wanted to quit Quo since the late 70's and he's always going on about his solo stuff so, from my POV, he's been an utter arse and he needs to stop that band now and do his solo stuff. It's more dignified than flogging a dead horse. He's even admitted he doesn't know what else to do with Quo.
I also don't have a problem with Andy. I like him. Rhino, I do have a problem with and it's based on his playing. Alan could barely hold a plectrum at the reunion gigs and still played the bass better than Rhino, within those songs.....Case in point, Oh Baby. Alan hits the notes on the bass in time, thus creating that driving sound that the song needs....Fast forward 5 months and CQ put Oh Baby in their set. Rhino was playing it very lazy and slowed the bass line down, thus taking the drive out of the song and making it flat. Another one is Living On An Island. Alan plays a majestic, well written and soulful bass line. Rhino never plays that bass line. Down Down is another Rhino never plays correctly like Alan. I read a post on the other forum, saying if we closed our eyes, we wouldn't notice the difference between the two. Erm, yes we would! We're not stupid!
People think I have this issue because of the people in the band....It's not personal. It's the fact the playing and music has not been as good since 1984. Although, it's hard not to have an issue with Francis Rossi. He says one thing one minute, than contradicts himself the next minute.
[/quote But on songs like ,Big Fat Mama I think Rhino gets the nod. To use your phrase about giving the song the drive it needs, the bit after the quiet build up before the "I got a Big Fat Mama" part when they are all going full pelt , Rhino drives this part much more than Alan does, in my opinion.
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