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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Dec 28, 2016 15:00:55 GMT
I remember Rick telling a story, in his own funny way of course, about the time they got closest to a physical fight. They ran around after each other, hitting one another with towels, with Rick calling him a sod God only knows how Francis feels right now... It's too sad to put into words I once heard Rick/Francis tell a story about bumpy flights when they held hands.And the other one when Francis said that he always looked where RP was on the tour bus.Nobody has a mate for 50 years and doesn't care deeply about him,he must be devastated..absolutely devastated.Only love can do this.There's a good but terrible phrase 'Love can only turn to sorrow'.Poor Francis Rossi.I would think that Francis Rossi feels this loss more than anybody,RP's family included. - Only love can bring pain - One of you has to go first - "Why does this hurt so much?" "Because it is real." - (Check out the underlying meaning of "passion". This also applies to all Quo fans.) Only Francis will ever know what Francis really feels. Thanks for the story. They forged a bond when they were quite young, a bond of choice, never completely easy. Francis has a real brother, and I don't think Rick does. Something of this has always been mirrored in their relationship - Francis is close to his family but seems to lack romantic feelings about family ideals I am going to make a considered guess that one of the things Francis is feeling right now is "confusion". And sorrow. Lots of it. Won't go away in a hurry.
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Post by cactuspete on Dec 28, 2016 16:27:15 GMT
Think of them as long standing work mates.
The years go by they change,evolve,but old loyal mates they remain.
Not being harsh but that's what happens.
Don't be Mawkish,down or sad.
There is much more in life than quo.
Having said that.
What a live f cling band.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Dec 28, 2016 16:31:44 GMT
I once heard Rick/Francis tell a story about bumpy flights when they held hands.And the other one when Francis said that he always looked where RP was on the tour bus.Nobody has a mate for 50 years and doesn't care deeply about him,he must be devastated..absolutely devastated.Only love can do this.There's a good but terrible phrase 'Love can only turn to sorrow'.Poor Francis Rossi.I would think that Francis Rossi feels this loss more than anybody,RP's family included. - Only love can bring pain - One of you has to go first - "Why does this hurt so much?" "Because it is real." - (Check out the underlying meaning of "passion". This also applies to all Quo fans.) Only Francis will ever know what Francis really feels. Thanks for the story. They forged a bond when they were quite young, a bond of choice, never completely easy. Francis has a real brother, and I don't think Rick does. Something of this has always been mirrored in their relationship - Francis is close to his family but seems to lack romantic feelings about family ideals I am going to make a considered guess that one of the things Francis is feeling right now is "confusion". And sorrow. Lots of it. Won't go away in a hurry. Rick was an only child and you do tend to have a habit, of looking after number one and doing what you want. As that's what I am like as I am also a only child. Though you also want a closeness with friends and not want them to leave you either.
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Post by gav on Dec 28, 2016 18:08:11 GMT
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Post by lozza on Dec 28, 2016 18:21:15 GMT
that picture shows "true friendship"
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Post by unspokenwords on Dec 28, 2016 19:00:58 GMT
I have no doubt that Francis will have been saddened by Ricks death, given their long history and teenage years attachment, but in reality they were estranged and I still doubt that the 'From Francis' is his own thoughts. The phrasing and style is not his at all and is a bit strange.
It is well known that Rick and Francis have not got on well for decades with Rick viewing Francis as being 'sly'. They managed however to perform as professional musicians in order to fulfil contracts and to 'keep the fox from the door.'
Rick in spite of his many self acknowledged faults, limitations and hurt caused to loved ones nevertheless comes across as a more sincere and upfront human being, a lovable character with a smile in his eyes and heart. Francis to the contrary appears to be cold, calculating and ruthless. His hero is probably Machiavelli. Opposites as 'his' post acknowledges.
Reality is that Rossi will be thinking that he now has more freedom to take 'Status Quo' further down the road he wants (cul-de-sac in my opinion) he has been for over 30 years without any irritation, or obstacle, 'Ricky in my ear'.
I just hope he does not play on being a victim through the loss to gain empathy and further the life of CQ. That would be sad and truly sick. It is time to call it a day on the 'Status Quo' and if he wants to continue, do it under some other guise. To do otherwise, to have a stand in for Rick in a band called Status Quo, would be disrespectful to the memory of Rick in my opinion.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Dec 28, 2016 19:09:28 GMT
that picture shows "true friendship" And it was taken at a time when they were not getting on too well either.
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Post by paradiseflats on Dec 28, 2016 19:17:55 GMT
that picture shows "true friendship" And it was taken at a time when they were not getting on too well either. Off their tits no doubt. Doubt they even know what they are doing or care. Coke does that.
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Post by Tʰᵉ Wᵃˡˡ Oᶠ Dᵉᵃᵗʰ on Dec 28, 2016 19:24:09 GMT
Off their tits no doubt... <snip> Yeah, but it's a great feeling. NOTE:
Kids... Do not do drugs.
Wait until you're old enough to enjoy them properly.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Dec 28, 2016 19:37:40 GMT
I have no doubt that Francis will have been saddened by Ricks death, given their long history and teenage years attachment, but in reality they were estranged and I still doubt that the 'From Francis' is his own thoughts. The phrasing and style is not his at all and is a bit strange. It is well known that Rick and Francis have not got on well for decades with Rick viewing Francis as being 'sly'. They managed however to perform as professional musicians in order to fulfil contracts and to 'keep the fox from the door.' Rick in spite of his many self acknowledged faults, limitations and hurt caused to loved ones nevertheless comes across as a more sincere and upfront human being, a lovable character with a smile in his eyes and heart. Francis to the contrary appears to be cold, calculating and ruthless. His hero is probably Machiavelli. Opposites as 'his' post acknowledges. Reality is that Rossi will be thinking that he now has more freedom to take 'Status Quo' further down the road he wants (cul-de-sac in my opinion) he has been for over 30 years without any irritation, or obstacle, 'Ricky in my ear'. I just hope he does not play on being a victim through the loss to gain empathy and further the life of CQ. That would be sad and truly sick. It is time to call it a day on the 'Status Quo' and if he wants to continue, do it under some other guise. To do otherwise, to have a stand in for Rick in a band called Status Quo, would be disrespectful to the memory of Rick in my opinion. At the moment he won't have much choice. Contracted gigs will have to go ahead even if he does not want them too. As the money men will not see Rick's death as a excuse to cancel. Due to the fact that the last tour was done without him, again because they had to for different reasons. I do not see anymore albums being released under the Status Quo name (Unless Rick's death brings Alan and Francis closer again). Francis will still be releasing his solo stuff next year and then might call it a day in 2018.
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Post by paradiseflats on Dec 28, 2016 19:41:27 GMT
I have no doubt that Francis will have been saddened by Ricks death, given their long history and teenage years attachment, but in reality they were estranged and I still doubt that the 'From Francis' is his own thoughts. The phrasing and style is not his at all and is a bit strange. It is well known that Rick and Francis have not got on well for decades with Rick viewing Francis as being 'sly'. They managed however to perform as professional musicians in order to fulfil contracts and to 'keep the fox from the door.' Rick in spite of his many self acknowledged faults, limitations and hurt caused to loved ones nevertheless comes across as a more sincere and upfront human being, a lovable character with a smile in his eyes and heart. Francis to the contrary appears to be cold, calculating and ruthless. His hero is probably Machiavelli. Opposites as 'his' post acknowledges. Reality is that Rossi will be thinking that he now has more freedom to take 'Status Quo' further down the road he wants (cul-de-sac in my opinion) he has been for over 30 years without any irritation, or obstacle, 'Ricky in my ear'. I just hope he does not play on being a victim through the loss to gain empathy and further the life of CQ. That would be sad and truly sick. It is time to call it a day on the 'Status Quo' and if he wants to continue, do it under some other guise. To do otherwise, to have a stand in for Rick in a band called Status Quo, would be disrespectful to the memory of Rick in my opinion. At the moment he won't have much choice. Contracted gigs will have to go ahead even if he does not want them too. As the money men will not see Rick's death as a excuse to cancel. Due to the fact that the last tour was done without him, again because they had to for different reasons. I do not see anymore albums being released under the Status Quo name (Unless Rick's death brings Alan and Francis closer again). Francis will still be releasing his solo stuff next year and then might call it a day in 2018. The next gigs are April. In any case the die is cast. Rick had left. Francis Quo continued without him.
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Post by lozza on Dec 29, 2016 12:51:10 GMT
Off their tits no doubt... <snip> Yeah, but it's a great feeling. NOTE:
Kids... Do not do drugs.
Wait until you're old enough to enjoy them properly.
GO N STAND IN THE CORNER YOU BAD BOY.!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 19:28:57 GMT
Hi All, Only Francis knows how he truly feels at this time, the rest of us just assume how he feels because we know how we would feel loosing a loved one. I posted this video in RPHD thread and I say it is how Francis truly felt about Rick, this is possibly the video others have mentioned in this thread. SKIP TO 03:37 - 05:12 SAYS IT ALL REALLY! Geoff.
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Post by threechordboogie on Dec 29, 2016 20:12:43 GMT
I have no doubt that Francis will have been saddened by Ricks death, given their long history and teenage years attachment, but in reality they were estranged and I still doubt that the 'From Francis' is his own thoughts. The phrasing and style is not his at all and is a bit strange. It is well known that Rick and Francis have not got on well for decades with Rick viewing Francis as being 'sly'. They managed however to perform as professional musicians in order to fulfil contracts and to 'keep the fox from the door.' Rick in spite of his many self acknowledged faults, limitations and hurt caused to loved ones nevertheless comes across as a more sincere and upfront human being, a lovable character with a smile in his eyes and heart. Francis to the contrary appears to be cold, calculating and ruthless. His hero is probably Machiavelli. Opposites as 'his' post acknowledges. Reality is that Rossi will be thinking that he now has more freedom to take 'Status Quo' further down the road he wants (cul-de-sac in my opinion) he has been for over 30 years without any irritation, or obstacle, 'Ricky in my ear'. I just hope he does not play on being a victim through the loss to gain empathy and further the life of CQ. That would be sad and truly sick. It is time to call it a day on the 'Status Quo' and if he wants to continue, do it under some other guise. To do otherwise, to have a stand in for Rick in a band called Status Quo, would be disrespectful to the memory of Rick in my opinion. I expect Simon Porter had a long telephone conversation with Francis Rossi. Francis expressed his shock, blurted out a few words and let Simon tidy it up. He'll have known what to write about Rick - he's been involved with Quo for thirty years. Francis will have seen or heard it and signed it off. That doesn't make it any less sincere. Rick and Francis and probably didn't get on. Keith and Mick probably don't get on. Rick views Francis as sly and calculating. Keith views Mick as sly and calculating. They managed however to perform as professional musicians in order to fulfil contracts - true for both cases. But in Quo's case, contracts needed to be fulfilled without Rick. Cancellation because Rick 'fell over' with a dicky heart was not an option. Francis has openly admitted that it's about the money, but he doesn't want to reform Frantic Four on a permanent basis. If Francis wants to take Quo down the acoustic-only road, that's his prerogative. He clearly doesn't plan to retire any time soon, but I'm not interested in any acoustic malarkey, and I'm not interested in Quo without Rick (not on principle - it just doesn't work for me). A stand-in called Richie Malone is already in place with Rick's full approval - so why would that be disrespectful?
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Dec 29, 2016 22:42:16 GMT
Hi All, Only Francis knows how he truly feels at this time, the rest of us just assume how he feels because we know how we would feel loosing a loved one. I posted this video in RPHD thread and I say it is how Francis truly felt about Rick, this is possibly the video others have mentioned in this thread. SKIP TO 03:37 - 05:12 SAYS IT ALL REALLY! Geoff. That is interesting, thank you Geoff. What would Rick do without Francis ... he doesn't know, he hasn't thought about it ... He would keep the band going somehow, doing the best he can.She does't ask Francis if he loves Rick ... she says she asked Rick if he loved Francis. We don't get the answer to that. Instead Fran anticipates the question will be put to him ... This is a corking documentary, knocks spots off any other doco about the band, ever.
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