equo
Rocker Rollin'
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Favourite Quo Album: Quo
Favourite other bands.: Pink Floyd
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Post by equo on Dec 26, 2016 22:47:48 GMT
From Francis....? I have over the last few years reached a point where I do not believe any thing that Francis says or his sincerity. He seems to be some form of arch egoist with little care for others or any grain of sincerity. Unfortunately therefore, I just don't believe this statement as ringing true. It comes across as something drafted by either his wife Eileen or Simon Porter because they think he should do it and make a gesture. Sorry to say this at this time of our collective sad loss but that is how I feel. I may of course be wrong and he could be feeling the loss of a kindred 'brother' and may decide that in his memory he should pull the plug on Status Quo as it clearly can no longer be without Rick. Time will tell. I think you're wrong. I cannot believe Rick's death is anything else than devastating to Francis. I cannot believe the death of a man who spend 50 years of his life close to you, can be anything else than devastating. They've seen all there is to life. Love, pain, friendship, succes, money, fame, financial troubles, addiction, loss of a loved one, you name it. Of course they will have had their battles. Life does that to the best of friends. But in the end, when Francis will be alone with his thoughts, he will miss that part in his life that is no longer there. It will also remind him of the fact that some things in life cannot last forever. But it only starts hurting when one of those things actualy isn't there anymore...
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Dec 26, 2016 23:32:04 GMT
From Francis....? I have over the last few years reached a point where I do not believe any thing that Francis says or his sincerity. He seems to be some form of arch egoist with little care for others or any grain of sincerity. Unfortunately therefore, I just don't believe this statement as ringing true. It comes across as something drafted by either his wife Eileen or Simon Porter because they think he should do it and make a gesture. Sorry to say this at this time of our collective sad loss but that is how I feel. I may of course be wrong and he could be feeling the loss of a kindred 'brother' and may decide that in his memory he should pull the plug on Status Quo as it clearly can no longer be without Rick. Time will tell. I think you're wrong. I cannot believe Rick's death is anything else than devastating to Francis. I cannot believe the death of a man who spend 50 years of his life close to you, can be anything else than devastating. They've seen all there is to life. Love, pain, friendship, succes, money, fame, financial troubles, addiction, loss of a loved one, you name it. Of course they will have had their battles. Life does that to the best of friends. But in the end, when Francis will be alone with his thoughts, he will miss that part in his life that is no longer there. It will also remind him of the fact that some things in life cannot last forever. But it only starts hurting when one of those things actualy isn't there anymore... Back in 2001 on the Rock On and On Documentary. The interviewer asked Francis if he loved Rick, (in a brotherly way). He said without hesitation "Of course I love him". Whatever went on in last few years I don't think changed that. I think Francis also loves Alan in a similar way. It's just that he can't work with him anymore. There are lots of people who are lifelong friends but they cannot work together. Quo did for a long time and it drove them apart, however the friendships can be repaired once you are not in each others pockets. Paul McCartney and John Lennon were similar in that respect.
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Post by curiousgirl on Dec 26, 2016 23:36:16 GMT
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Post by Quoincidence on Dec 26, 2016 23:42:51 GMT
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Dec 27, 2016 0:08:38 GMT
It's all decent and true. But however many times I read this, the bits that hit home remain the same - the first line, and the last line.
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Post by Railroad17 on Dec 27, 2016 0:39:02 GMT
I remember Rick telling a story, in his own funny way of course, about the time they got closest to a physical fight. They ran around after each other, hitting one another with towels, with Rick calling him a sod God only knows how Francis feels right now... It's too sad to put into words I once heard Rick/Francis tell a story about bumpy flights when they held hands.And the other one when Francis said that he always looked where RP was on the tour bus.Nobody has a mate for 50 years and doesn't care deeply about him,he must be devastated..absolutely devastated.Only love can do this.There's a good but terrible phrase 'Love can only turn to sorrow'.Poor Francis Rossi.I would think that Francis Rossi feels this loss more than anybody,RP's family included.
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Post by freewilly on Dec 27, 2016 1:33:03 GMT
I remember Rick telling a story, in his own funny way of course, about the time they got closest to a physical fight. They ran around after each other, hitting one another with towels, with Rick calling him a sod God only knows how Francis feels right now... It's too sad to put into words I once heard Rick/Francis tell a story about bumpy flights when they held hands.And the other one when Francis said that he always looked where RP was on the tour bus.Nobody has a mate for 50 years and doesn't care deeply about him,he must be devastated..absolutely devastated.Only love can do this.There's a good but terrible phrase 'Love can only turn to sorrow'.Poor Francis Rossi.I would think that Francis Rossi feels this loss more than anybody,RP's family included. I know your feelings on it and understand it now but, it is different for a lot of us. I mean, no disrespect but we've all become shattered by the news. I appreciate where you're coming from, it's different for people who grew up the way you have done. But, this leaves others very hurt and left feeling very empty... I know Alan, John, Andy, Rhino,Jeff, Matt....Even Leon must feel devastated but, it's different for Francis. This is where it all falls into place for him....I just want to hug him right now I remember Rick giving me the usual thumbs up and winks etc at gigs but, I remember I peaked during Rain (was sweating buckets and my hair was hanging over my eyes) he spotted me during the quiet part, laughed at me and told me to move the fucking hair from my eyes People on ACDC forums debating whether Malcolm or Rick was better but, agreeing they were the best None of this can be real..
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Buzz
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Post by Buzz on Dec 27, 2016 5:03:17 GMT
From Francis....? I have over the last few years reached a point where I do not believe any thing that Francis says or his sincerity. He seems to be some form of arch egoist with little care for others or any grain of sincerity. Unfortunately therefore, I just don't believe this statement as ringing true. It comes across as something drafted by either his wife Eileen or Simon Porter because they think he should do it and make a gesture. Sorry to say this at this time of our collective sad loss but that is how I feel. I may of course be wrong and he could be feeling the loss of a kindred 'brother' and may decide that in his memory he should pull the plug on Status Quo as it clearly can no longer be without Rick. Time will tell.
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Post by threechordboogie on Dec 27, 2016 10:48:59 GMT
From Francis....? I have over the last few years reached a point where I do not believe any thing that Francis says or his sincerity. He seems to be some form of arch egoist with little care for others or any grain of sincerity. Unfortunately therefore, I just don't believe this statement as ringing true. It comes across as something drafted by either his wife Eileen or Simon Porter because they think he should do it and make a gesture. Sorry to say this at this time of our collective sad loss but that is how I feel. I may of course be wrong and he could be feeling the loss of a kindred 'brother' and may decide that in his memory he should pull the plug on Status Quo as it clearly can no longer be without Rick. Time will tell. How well do you really know Francis Rossi? Not how much you think you know him and Rick? How much time have you spent with Status Quo off-stage? I got three minutes at book signing in Leeds. Shook them both by the hand and said "looking forward to seeing you in London". Three minutes and a couple of autographs in forty years. If you're like me, you'll have lapped up all the promotional tv appearances, recorded interviews and press cuttings. You'll have seen them on stage, maybe met them a few times, bought the records, books, videos/dvds. Analysed every sentence, every word, every intone, every nuance. But you have not lived with them. I very much doubt you've been on the tour bus after the shows, I don't suppose you've been in the recording studios with them watching them work - sometimes very un-harmoniously. I don't suppose you've been a fly on the wall in meetings with Simon Porter. I personally feel that Francis's tribute to Rick is spot on. It's diplomatic and he doesn't pretend anything. If Porter had hand in it - good! That's what he's paid for! Working with someone for fifty years is quite an achievement, and never easy - Jagger and Richards will testify to that.
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Post by curiousgirl on Dec 27, 2016 11:00:00 GMT
I remember Rick telling a story, in his own funny way of course, about the time they got closest to a physical fight. They ran around after each other, hitting one another with towels, with Rick calling him a sod God only knows how Francis feels right now... It's too sad to put into words I once heard Rick/Francis tell a story about bumpy flights when they held hands.And the other one when Francis said that he always looked where RP was on the tour bus.Nobody has a mate for 50 years and doesn't care deeply about him,he must be devastated..absolutely devastated.Only love can do this.There's a good but terrible phrase 'Love can only turn to sorrow'.Poor Francis Rossi.I would think that Francis Rossi feels this loss more than anybody,RP's family included. I love that photo Railie. Magic. And says its all.
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Post by paradiseflats on Dec 27, 2016 11:05:31 GMT
I once heard Rick/Francis tell a story about bumpy flights when they held hands.And the other one when Francis said that he always looked where RP was on the tour bus.Nobody has a mate for 50 years and doesn't care deeply about him,he must be devastated..absolutely devastated.Only love can do this.There's a good but terrible phrase 'Love can only turn to sorrow'.Poor Francis Rossi.I would think that Francis Rossi feels this loss more than anybody,RP's family included. I know your feelings on it and understand it now but, it is different for a lot of us. I mean, no disrespect but we've all become shattered by the news. I appreciate where you're coming from, it's different for people who grew up the way you have done. But, this leaves others very hurt and left feeling very empty... I know Alan, John, Andy, Rhino,Jeff, Matt....Even Leon must feel devastated but, it's different for Francis. This is where it all falls into place for him....I just want to hug him right now I remember Rick giving me the usual thumbs up and winks etc at gigs but, I remember I peaked during Rain (was sweating buckets and my hair was hanging over my eyes) he spotted me during the quiet part, laughed at me and told me to move the fucking hair from my eyes People on ACDC forums debating whether Malcolm or Rick was better but, agreeing they were the best None of this can be real.. It's funny how different people react to these things. As part of me and a large slice hopes Francis will regret not doing more with the classic ladies ne up when he could. Instead of denying his friend of 50 years what his heart truly desired. I feel no different towards Francis than I did last week. I feel more for his family than I do the band.
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Post by paradiseflats on Dec 27, 2016 11:07:42 GMT
I once heard Rick/Francis tell a story about bumpy flights when they held hands.And the other one when Francis said that he always looked where RP was on the tour bus.Nobody has a mate for 50 years and doesn't care deeply about him,he must be devastated..absolutely devastated.Only love can do this.There's a good but terrible phrase 'Love can only turn to sorrow'.Poor Francis Rossi.I would think that Francis Rossi feels this loss more than anybody,RP's family included. I love that photo Railie. Magic. And says its all. They look so out of it on drugs to me. Especially Rick. But they were init together.
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gav
Veteran Rocker Rollin'
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Favourite Quo Album: On The Level
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Post by gav on Dec 27, 2016 13:15:25 GMT
Rick says he enjoyed every minute of it. That he can't remember most of it, it must have been a great escape.
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Post by killagorilla on Dec 27, 2016 21:12:42 GMT
His friendship with Rick was longer than most marriages last. I would imagine that Francis, in a weird sort of way, feels like he has suddenly become a widow(er).
I know how I feel over Ricks death, Francis must feel a thousand times worse.
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Post by Quoincidence on Dec 28, 2016 12:16:19 GMT
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