roquer
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Post by roquer on Jul 31, 2022 21:19:57 GMT
Talking about the song. Is there any real difference between the track labeled as "Demo" and the track "Honky Tonk Angel" on the Deluxe edition? I can't hear any.
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Post by sqcollector on Jul 31, 2022 21:29:15 GMT
Talking about the song. Is there any real difference between the track labeled as "Demo" and the track "Honky Tonk Angel" on the Deluxe edition? I can't hear any. The EQ is different, for some reason. But that's just a mastering choice. If I recall correctly, "Honky Tonk Angel" was sourced from a lossy file. Probably because it appeared named like that on those lossy bootlegs going around and they (at Universal) thought it was one thing different from what they had labelled as "Wild Side Of Life Demo" on their archives. Speculation on my part, do mind. Wouldn't surprise me. I also don't remember hearing any difference between the songs, but might compare again one of these days.
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mortified
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Post by mortified on Aug 1, 2022 6:00:08 GMT
Didn't Rod Stewart's version, released the same year, have a fiddle on it too? That was an accordion set to fiddle setting. Rod Stewart has always been set to fiddle setting
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col
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Post by col on Aug 1, 2022 9:51:28 GMT
but look at these future releases..I mean bula Quo....oh how our mighty Quo make songs these days........ I'm not comparing then with now. I'm sort of trying to compare then with what had come before. Quo changed a bit and moved on; to basically the next phase. Although I wasn't aware of that at the time. And I went with them. But, for me, this was the start of not really knowing what you were going to get on record next. The guarantee that I would love everything they did was suddenly not there. Rockin' is seen as the line in the sand but this was the real start. You know I am going to totally agree on this point. WSOL was good, even pretty good, but it wasn't great. I also went with them, I went in many different directions in 1976, only Quo, SAHB and The Feelgoods were the only ones from before that I went with. Some I returned to, when they changed (Sabbath with Dio), there were others I got in to a bit later (UFO), many others (Zep, Purple) I abandoned for the new energetic, stuff, mainly from NYC and copied in the UK. Y'know, with loud fast guitars, like Quo were up unto WSOL.
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mortified
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Post by mortified on Aug 1, 2022 11:47:01 GMT
I'm not comparing then with now. I'm sort of trying to compare then with what had come before. Quo changed a bit and moved on; to basically the next phase. Although I wasn't aware of that at the time. And I went with them. But, for me, this was the start of not really knowing what you were going to get on record next. The guarantee that I would love everything they did was suddenly not there. Rockin' is seen as the line in the sand but this was the real start. You know I am going to totally agree on this point. WSOL was good, even pretty good, but it wasn't great. I also went with them, I went in many different directions in 1976, only Quo, SAHB and The Feelgoods were the only ones from before that I went with. Some I returned to, when they changed (Sabbath with Dio), there were others I got in to a bit later (UFO), many others (Zep, Purple) I abandoned for the new energetic, stuff, mainly from NYC and copied in the UK. Y'know, with loud fast guitars, like Quo were up unto WSOL. I think for those of us who were there, it was a turning point. For others, probably less so. You're right; it was pretty good. But it wasn't Paper Plane, Caroline or Mystery Song. There's absolutely nothing wrong with country leanings despite the weird backlash that many Quo fans throw at it. I adore the Stones almost for that reason alone. Country Honk is as brilliant as Honky Tonk Women. And Country Honk is the direction I think Quo sounded like they wanted to go in with the demo. I presume Roger Glover (or someone) had other ideas. If I was 19 and it was Quo and I didn't think it was 100% superb, there had to be something amiss. Basically, in retrospect, it was just the band beginning to evolve. But on record there was much more energy suddenly coming from other sources. AC/DC were beginning to surface for example. And the punk movement was well underway. But not everyone wants energy in their music. I know; how odd Quo were suddenly reigning it in - in the studio at least - while the world was going in a different direction. The same thing happened in the mid-90's. At least you can't call them followers of fashion. Despite their strained and almost desperate attempts to have a hit single from Burning Bridges onwards
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col
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Post by col on Aug 1, 2022 16:33:45 GMT
You know I am going to totally agree on this point. WSOL was good, even pretty good, but it wasn't great. I also went with them, I went in many different directions in 1976, only Quo, SAHB and The Feelgoods were the only ones from before that I went with. Some I returned to, when they changed (Sabbath with Dio), there were others I got in to a bit later (UFO), many others (Zep, Purple) I abandoned for the new energetic, stuff, mainly from NYC and copied in the UK. Y'know, with loud fast guitars, like Quo were up unto WSOL. I think for those of us who were there, it was a turning point. For others, probably less so. You're right; it was pretty good. But it wasn't Paper Plane, Caroline or Mystery Song. There's absolutely nothing wrong with country leanings despite the weird backlash that many Quo fans throw at it. I adore the Stones almost for that reason alone. Country Honk is as brilliant as Honky Tonk Women. And Country Honk is the direction I think Quo sounded like they wanted to go in with the demo. I presume Roger Glover (or someone) had other ideas. If I was 19 and it was Quo and I didn't think it was 100% superb, there had to be something amiss. Basically, in retrospect, it was just the band beginning to evolve. But on record there was much more energy suddenly coming from other sources. AC/DC were beginning to surface for example. And the punk movement was well underway. But not everyone wants energy in their music. I know; how odd Quo were suddenly reigning it in - in the studio at least - while the world was going in a different direction. The same thing happened in the mid-90's. At least you can't call them followers of fashion. Despite their strained and almost desperate attempts to have a hit single from Burning Bridges onwards I would say from WSOL onwards. The first song recorded as a single since the Pye days. It was a change of focus. To me at least, this was the change from an album band that released singles, to a singles band that released albums.
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Post by gav on Aug 1, 2022 19:33:51 GMT
The refinement with the production on WSOL is stark, compared to the demo, which sounds much more like the pre-76 Quo.
Someone must have had a massive word in someone's ear about that and managed to change Quo's studio process fairly radically, because they went from being pretty loud, abrasive and dense sounding to a much politer version of themselves. Who was it though? Someone brand new in the record company? Someone with their eye on America? And why Roger Glover at that point? I take it 3 years after leaving Purple he had become an established producer by that point.
Have to say though, it's a very nice production. Solid.
And was Andy Bown completely absent from the recording? He then went on to be all over the RAOTW album and has been tinkling extensively ever since.
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Post by frozenhero on Aug 5, 2022 11:18:28 GMT
And was Andy Bown completely absent from the recording? He then went on to be all over the RAOTW album and has been tinkling extensively ever since. There is some piano on the track. The old The Makers Of... website says it's him but that may be conjecture. Could be Rick as well.
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