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Post by makellysgreasydog on Sept 28, 2019 16:38:41 GMT
Just wanted to flag this up as it has absolutely blown my mind! Does the uploader know of any other alternative running orders for Quo albums, and are there any more to come?
Naughty Girl Calling In Your Eyes Save Me Overdose
Rollin' Home Invitation End Of The Line Lonely In The Army Now
Just burned myself a playlist, I've always thought Lonely sounded like it belonged on the album. No Red Sky and, thankfully, no Speechless. Falling in love with one of my first Quo albums all over again.
Calling, In Your Eyes and Save Me use some very Kircher-esque drum fills and I wonder whether Jeff and Rhino might have just re-recorded the drum and bass parts from Rossi Frost demos? Calling really sounds like Bernie Frost is singing backing vocals too.
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 28, 2019 16:47:18 GMT
Hello! Cheers for sharing my video I know a few other original album track sequences which I'll get sorted at some point! Calling is just Parfitt and Rossi on vocals. Bernie didnt do too many BVs on the post '86 albums. Cheers
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Post by markquo on Sept 28, 2019 16:50:24 GMT
Were Calling In Your Eyes and Save Me originally recorded with Pete on the drums then with Rossi/Frost for the solo album? Cheers
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 28, 2019 16:53:15 GMT
Were Calling In Your Eyes and Save Me originally recorded with Pete on the drums then with Rossi/Frost for the solo album? Cheers As far as I know Mark, no they weren't recorded with Pete prior to the Rich / Edward's lineup. Cheers
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Post by sqcollector on Sept 28, 2019 19:47:31 GMT
Very interesting. I also think Lonely fits very well. Plus Heartburn. Calling, In Your Eyes and Save Me use some very Kircher-esque drum fills and I wonder whether Jeff and Rhino might have just re-recorded the drum and bass parts from Rossi Frost demos? Calling really sounds like Bernie Frost is singing backing vocals too. Curiously, the credits list a remix engineer for those tracks, along with In The Army Now. I also think those songs sound different than the others. Basically, I'd say three batches, in terms of sound production: 1) Rollin' Home and Red Sky; both produced "externally". 2) Those three and In The Army Now, even though this last one doesn't sound as much as the others. 3) Dreamin', End Of The Line, Invitation, Speechless (though the vocals are too loud) and Overdose (and also Lonely, Heartburn and Rock n Roll Floorboards). I particularly like the sound of these very much. Calling actually seems to have some edits/cuts. Right on the first pause, near the 17 seconds mark, it seems something ends abruptly, like it was poorly cut or something. Maybe that's what the remix engineer is for? I really don't know.
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 28, 2019 20:04:59 GMT
Very interesting. I also think Lonely fits very well. Plus Heartburn. Calling, In Your Eyes and Save Me use some very Kircher-esque drum fills and I wonder whether Jeff and Rhino might have just re-recorded the drum and bass parts from Rossi Frost demos?Β Calling really sounds like Bernie Frost is singing backing vocals too. Curiously, the credits list a remix engineer for those tracks, along with In The Army Now. I also think those songs sound different than the others. Basically, I'd say three batches, in terms of sound production: 1) Rollin' Home and Red Sky; both produced "externally". 2) Those three and In The Army Now, even though this last one doesn't sound as much as the others. 3) Dreamin', End Of The Line, Invitation, Speechless (though the vocals are too loud) and Overdose (and also Lonely, Heartburn and Rock n Roll Floorboards). I particularly like the sound of these very much. Calling actually seems to have some edits/cuts. Right on the first pause, near the 17 seconds mark, it seems something ends abruptly, like it was poorly cut or something. Maybe that's what the remix engineer is for? I really don't know. Remix Engineers simply transform the track to sound different to the way it was recorded by the band originally. So those tracks probably sounded completely different in the early stages of the Army Sessions
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 28, 2019 20:05:58 GMT
The Army sessions started in September 1985 and ended in February 1986, so this could possibly be the earliest proposed tracklisting for the Army album
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Post by sqcollector on Sept 28, 2019 20:14:43 GMT
Remix Engineers simply transform the track to sound different to the way it was recorded by the band originally. So those tracks probably sounded completely different in the early stages of the Army Sessions Thanks for the info. That kinda explains the cut I mentioned, as if it was edited there. Would be interesting if such early versions existed and were made available to the public someday.
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 29, 2019 19:06:25 GMT
Remix Engineers simply transform the track to sound different to the way it was recorded by the band originally. So those tracks probably sounded completely different in the early stages of the Army Sessions Thanks for the info. That kinda explains the cut I mentioned, as if it was edited there. Would be interesting if such early versions existed and were made available to the public someday. Calling had roughly about 5 different takes. Some of the remixing took place in June.
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Post by sqcollector on Sept 29, 2019 21:04:11 GMT
Calling had roughly about 5 different takes. Some of the remixing took place in June. Pretty cool! Do such versions still exist, then? Would love to put my ears on them. If so, maybe they'll make it to a possible future 3 CD Deluxe Edition. Or perhaps some weird compilation. Or even they'll make their way to your YouTube channel, who knows? eheh
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 29, 2019 21:25:29 GMT
Calling had roughly about 5 different takes. Some of the remixing took place in June. Pretty cool! Do such versions still exist, then? Would love to put my ears on them. If so, maybe they'll make it to a possible future 3 CD Deluxe Edition. Or perhaps some weird compilation. Or even they'll make their way to your YouTube channel, who knows? eheh if anything, only a select few Alt Mixes / Outtakes would make it to an anthology of unreleased stuff. Not a chance would they have every single Alt Take / Mix / Demo of a song.
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Post by sqcollector on Sept 30, 2019 22:22:04 GMT
I found this: www.discogs.com/Status-Quo-Taken-From-The-Album-In-The-Army-Now/release/3147051Seems like Rollin' Home and Dreaming also had other mixes. Which is normal, in general, for every album/song, I guess. What I find weird is that Dreaming was supposed to be Naughty Girl but without those "oh oh oh". But if we go by the notes on that Discogs page, there was an earlier mix of Dreaming that I'm assuming was not Naughty Girl (because it was called Dreaming already). Could this mean Dreaming was supposed to be more different than Naughty Girl than it ended up being? I'm assuming, of course, Naughty Girl was already established (the way we know it nowadays), cancelled and then Dreaming appeared remixed differently. But then ended up being like Naughty Girl, except the "oh oh oh", for some reason.
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 30, 2019 22:57:54 GMT
I found this: www.discogs.com/Status-Quo-Taken-From-The-Album-In-The-Army-Now/release/3147051Seems like Rollin' Home and Dreaming also had other mixes. Which is normal, in general, for every album/song, I guess. What I find weird is that Dreaming was supposed to be Naughty Girl but without those "oh oh oh". But if we go by the notes on that Discogs page, there was an earlier mix of Dreaming that I'm assuming was not Naughty Girl (because it was called Dreaming already). Could this mean Dreaming was supposed to be more different than Naughty Girl than it ended up being? I'm assuming, of course, Naughty Girl was already established (the way we know it nowadays), cancelled and then Dreaming appeared remixed differently. But then ended up being like Naughty Girl, except the "oh oh oh", for some reason. Dreamin' isn't too different to Naughty Girl. They only had to change it ever so slightly so they could release it, as it was meant to be the bands first single since breaking up but the lawsuit put an end to it. They removed the Oh's but you can see francis mime them in the video looking at Rick. The only mix that has the biggest changes to it is the single / promo mix, which features more verb on Jeff's snare and delay on the vocals and a different guitar part during the middle section / breakdown before the key change. Some of the synths are different also, as well as some additional Dreamin's during the outro. The album version is pretty much Naughty Girl just minus the Oh's.
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Post by sqcollector on Sept 30, 2019 23:12:18 GMT
Dreamin' isn't too different to Naughty Girl. They only had to change it ever so slightly so they could release it, as it was meant to be the bands first single since breaking up but the lawsuit put an end to it. They removed the Oh's but you can see francis mime them in the video looking at Rick. The only mix that has the biggest changes to it is the single / promo mix, which features more verb on Jeff's snare and delay on the vocals and a different guitar part during the middle section / breakdown before the key change. Some of the synths are different also, as well as some additional Dreamin's during the outro. The album version is pretty much Naughty Girl just minus the Oh's. I'm aware of all that. What I was thinking was that if that sampler contains an early mix of Dreaming, and Dreaming was only Dreaming after Naughty Girl was cancelled; does that mean that, before Dreaming was that not so different version of Naughty Girl, nor the single mix, was it yet another mix? A more different one than Naughty Girl was? Not sure if I'm making myself clear xD Perhaps it had a longer interlude or something.
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 30, 2019 23:17:16 GMT
Dreamin' isn't too different to Naughty Girl. They only had to change it ever so slightly so they could release it, as it was meant to be the bands first single since breaking up but the lawsuit put an end to it. They removed the Oh's but you can see francis mime them in the video looking at Rick. The only mix that has the biggest changes to it is the single / promo mix, which features more verb on Jeff's snare and delay on the vocals and a different guitar part during the middle section / breakdown before the key change. Some of the synths are different also, as well as some additional Dreamin's during the outro. The album version is pretty much Naughty Girl just minus the Oh's. I'm aware of all that. What I was thinking was that if that sampler contains an early mix of Dreaming, and Dreaming was only Dreaming after Naughty Girl was cancelled; does that mean that, before Dreaming was that not so different version of Naughty Girl, nor the single mix, was it yet another mix? A more different one than Naughty Girl was? Not sure if I'm making myself clear xD Perhaps it had a longer interlude or something. Naughty Girl stopped being Naughty Girl around January 1986 (I think, I'll have to double check), and then they must have came to the decision as a band to call it Dreamin', or it was the management / record labels decision. It wont be any different to what we got... probably just a rough mix / early mix. An early mix of RAOTW was played on the Radio before it was officially released as a single as someone mentioned it many moons ago on an old forum. Theres also a playback performance of WYP somewhere that sounds completely different to the final mix, as well as a performance of Marguerita Time. I'd have to get a hold of the promo sampler to know exactly what they sound like however. Cheers
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