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Post by paradiseflats on Jul 11, 2019 6:12:50 GMT
I read this about John’s band compared to the current Status Quo.
Is it really the case.
Creatively surely not. John is in my view the ‘heart beat of Status Quo’. A great drummer who plays with swing. However not being disrespectful to him at all. He isn’t the player he was. As a result the songs are ‘slower’ than I think they were intended to be.
I haven’t had the pleasure of hearing the new singer. The bass player, I have and although better than Edwards, he sings quite a bit in the club style to me. The vocals has always been where Johns band falls down.
Today’s Status Quo isn’t for me.
However you have the most recognised voice in the band and for good or ill the creative force for a long time.
John wrote little in the band,yes his sound and arrangements are very important but creatively he is not as important as Rossi. They are still writing whereas Johns is frozen in time, well give or take drumming speed. But time remains undefeated.
Which sounds better is a different question.
You pays your money...
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Post by curiousgirl on Jul 11, 2019 8:41:16 GMT
I think you make an interesting and good point which differentiates the two bands.
One is continuing to write new songs/music and the other is playing songs from a specific era of Quo and trying to replicate that sound.
They're are chalk and cheese under the same 'brand' Status Quo.
IMO, whether or not I like their sound, the band with Francis in is Status Quo because it is goes back to the source and it is still evolving.
Having said that, of course John's band JCQuo is valid. Its a good night out to hear old Quo tracks which don't get played any more by Status Quo.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Jul 11, 2019 9:36:28 GMT
Valid for what, though? Neither band now represents Status Quo as they were in their prime. I suspect if we inspect closely not many of the fans are either  We had a good run. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 10:52:08 GMT
I read this about John’s band compared to the current Status Quo. Is it really the case. Creatively surely not. John is in my view the ‘heart beat of Status Quo’. A great drummer who plays with swing. However not being disrespectful to him at all. He isn’t the player he was. As a result the songs are ‘slower’ than I think they were intended to be. Rick Chase is a classically trained vocalist. The songs are sung respectfully, not with drawl and groans suggesting the singer is totally bored with it all. This in my opinion is a big plus within JCQ Today’s Status Quo isn’t for me. Yes, the drawl and the groans when performing live are very recognisable and attributed to one person. Makes a complete mockery of the songs, totally disrespectful to both the songs and the audience.and for good or ill the creative force for a long time. John wrote little in the band,yes his sound and arrangements are very important but creatively he is not as important as Rossi. They are still writing whereas Johns is frozen in time, well give or take drumming speed. But time remains undefeated. As aboveYou pays your money... |
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Post by dontthinkitmatters on Jul 11, 2019 11:55:51 GMT
Both bands have one member each from the classic period and both play Status Quo songs. These two facts are the only common denominator between them (imo).
JCQ do not have to be creative, other than with the set list, playing classics from the back catalogue that rarely or have never seen the light of day on stage ( A point which Spud told me where he thought Francis was missing a trick).
I don't get this played 'slower' bit though, as if you listen to studio tracks and ROLD is a classic example, it's hardly a fast tempo ( see footage of JCQ playing ROLD on previous threads , sounds great to me) , It could be argued many a song has been ruined by being played too quickly. Break The Rules for instance, where Francis can hardly get the words out quickly enough!
To be fair to both John and Francis, they are knocking on and it wouldn't be a surprise if they both couldn't perform like they could in there prime.
I haven't seen previous incarnations of JCQ Live, but I will say Pete Mace is ace on stage and certainly adds to the vocals providing the variation more akin to the FF period.
Good luck to both bands, I like my music live and you pay your hard earned if you want to see them. I know which of the two gave me most enjoyment when I last saw them.
As John says, its all about the groove.
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Post by dontthinkitmatters on Jul 11, 2019 12:42:05 GMT
Both obviously not the FF line up that sadly we will never see again, but to me just as equally valid , if not more so , for the classic sound era that they play.
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Post by dennis on Jul 13, 2019 13:24:55 GMT
"Status Quo" stopped sounding sufficiently like Status Quo for me after Live Aid. JCQ seems much nearer to the classic sound, to me. Tbh, even many of the tribute bands sound much nearer to the classic sound!
Creatively, imo, Francis peaked 45 years ago &, apart from a couple of subsequent blips, he hasn't been a great creative force since.
As for the idea that "Status Quo" are still evolving, to me it seems more like slowly degenerating. What are they supposed to be, who are they meant to appeal to?
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Post by gerh on Jul 13, 2019 23:03:42 GMT
The 'every bit as valid...' is from my post on DTIM's 'JCQ Live in Mashamshire 22.06.19' page here.
What I was trying to say [and it's a f***in' pain to have to explain 'cos it loses something in the explaining] IS that TO ME [ok?] 'John Coghlan's Quo' is as valid a use of the name 'something'-Quo as is FR's use of 'Status' Quo. And, again, TO ME, JC's Quo have [or have very close to] 'that' sound that FR's Quo don't and haven't had. And the 'FF-reunion Quo' HAD that 'sound' too.
I'm not talking about [or getting waylaid into] a discussion about who's the frontman, who's the 'lead' vocalist, who wrote the songs, who drove a f***in' ice-cream van or any of that stuff - I'm talking about the USE of the suffix/word -Quo and the relative merits, or otherwise, thereof, as it is reflected in the music as currently played.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 0:18:56 GMT
Probably a good thing there was never an Alan Lancaster's Quo to discuss the merits of
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Post by dontthinkitmatters on Jul 14, 2019 8:26:34 GMT
Nice little touch towards Alan in the JCQ logo though. I can feel a thread about The Bombers coming on.
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Post by americanquo on Jul 23, 2019 3:27:23 GMT
Nice little touch towards Alan in the JCQ logo though. I can feel a thread about The Bombers coming on. If only they'd stayed together to find a new contract. I would still love to see what the JC and AL could do on some new material. |
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Post by blagult on Jul 23, 2019 9:22:50 GMT
Why the word wait. Surely two ex members of a once highly successful Rock band have had nothing to stop them getting together and writing and producing some of their own material. Or am I wrong ?
How long have JCQ been performing ?
The only way they are as viable is they play Quo’s old material mainly in the south of the UK. I am yet to hear any self penned material to drive home the comparison.
Willing to listen though if it happens.
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Post by curiousgirl on Jul 23, 2019 9:41:35 GMT
Nice little touch towards Alan in the JCQ logo though. I can feel a thread about The Bombers coming on. When I read your post, this memory from my teen knowledge popped into my mind. John was in the RAF Air cadets when he joined Quo. I suspect that is the real reason for the logo. I've now double checked this but amazed that I instantly remembered this. But do have a thread about Alan's band too. It would be great. |
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Post by curiousgirl on Jul 23, 2019 9:53:12 GMT
Why the word wait. Surely two ex members of a once highly successful Rock band have had nothing to stop them getting together and writing and producing some of their own material. Or am I wrong ? How long have JCQ been performing ? The only way they are as viable is they play Quo’s old material mainly in the south of the UK. I am yet to hear any self penned material to drive home the comparison. Willing to listen though if it happens. Its a fair question and I've had a look around online. According to John's own website, he only stayed a year with Alan's band The Bombers because he wanted to be based at home in the UK.I can understand that after all those years on the road with Quo. He also formed a number of bands of his own, so it looks to me as if he didn't feel the NEED to be in The Bombers for any reason. He formed JCQ in the late 90s. He never wrote any material for Quo. Those credits which he has are to ensure he got a fair share of those royalties. So it makes sense why he has not written any new material with his band. I've seen his band a number of times and he clearly loves playing live. He really enjoys these small gigs and I never got the sense that he thought he was 'slumming it' in any way. |
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Post by gav on Jul 23, 2019 19:23:53 GMT
Nice little touch towards Alan in the JCQ logo though. I can feel a thread about The Bombers coming on. But do have a thread about Alan's band too. It would be great. I created one: statusquo.boards.net/thread/12733/bombers. |
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