sincity
Rocker Rollin'
Posts: 368
Favourite Quo Album: Hello
Favourite other bands.: Blackberry Smoke, AC/DC, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Iron Maiden
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Post by sincity on Feb 28, 2019 18:57:43 GMT
Just heard from my son, his new classic rock mag has arrived & FR is in it, apparently he says he has nothing to do with Alan no more & thinks nothing good came from the reunion shows & he wishes they`d never done them! Ive not read it yet but it sounds like what we`d expect him to say these days  - Well Francis, - i & many many others thought the reunion shows were absolutely magnificent & a million times better than the merry band of minstrels you have the neck to call Status Quo these days u miserable old bastard! |
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gerh
Grizzled Rocker Rollin'
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Favourite Quo Album: 'Hello' [and 'Quo Live']
Favourite other bands.: Zappa, Kansas, Rush, Deep Purple, Yes, Richard Thompson, Horslips, Rory Gallagher, Thin Lizzy, Judas Priest etc etc. [ANYONE but Kiss!]
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Post by gerh on Feb 28, 2019 19:32:35 GMT
"...you have the neck to call Status Quo these days u miserable old bastard!"I think you're being too generous there, bud! 
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sincity
Rocker Rollin'
Posts: 368
Favourite Quo Album: Hello
Favourite other bands.: Blackberry Smoke, AC/DC, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Iron Maiden
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Post by sincity on Feb 28, 2019 19:48:27 GMT
"...you have the neck to call Status Quo these days u miserable old bastard!"I think you're being too generous there, bud! Oh trust me i couldve made it a whole lot worse  |
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Post by curiousgirl on Feb 28, 2019 20:23:00 GMT
Very sad to discover that he's so bitter. I remember hearing him talk about being reunited with Alan in 2010 when he was promoting his solo tour. They were talking regularly by phone. He sounded genuinely pleased they were friends again. And now this....
He's still working and touring. Not sure what he's got to be so upset about. Maybe though, its Alan who wants nothing more to do with him and that is what hurts.
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Post by Victor on Feb 28, 2019 21:08:13 GMT
Very sad to discover that he's so bitter. I remember hearing him talk about being reunited with Alan in 2010 when he was promoting his solo tour. They were talking regularly by phone. He sounded genuinely pleased they were friends again. And now this.... He's still working and touring. Not sure what he's got to be so upset about. Maybe though, its Alan who wants nothing more to do with him and that is what hurts.Yea I think you have a point there, CG... |
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Post by curiousgirl on Feb 28, 2019 21:55:14 GMT
Very sad to discover that he's so bitter. I remember hearing him talk about being reunited with Alan in 2010 when he was promoting his solo tour. They were talking regularly by phone. He sounded genuinely pleased they were friends again. And now this.... He's still working and touring. Not sure what he's got to be so upset about. Maybe though, its Alan who wants nothing more to do with him and that is what hurts.Yea I think you have a point there, CG... And Rick's gone. I seem to remember reading that he blames the reunion gigs for sending Rick back to his old wild ways. I know they were no longer friends but I'm sure he'd also want Rick still with us. |
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Post by azza200 on Feb 28, 2019 22:27:43 GMT
Yea I think you have a point there, CG... And Rick's gone. I seem to remember reading that he blames the reunion gigs for sending Rick back to his old wild ways. I know they were no longer friends but I'm sure he'd also want Rick still with us. The friction between them is very prominent on the Dublin 14 release, Rick is hardly near Francis thru the show very little interaction between them at point's. Then during Roadhouse it comes to a point Rossi seems to be in rush and just want's to get the show over. Francis becomes very forceful during Roadhouse Blues IMO just how view his actions on stage kinda rude to Alan his body language is and how he acts towards him near the end of that song. |
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Feb 28, 2019 23:45:18 GMT
And Rick's gone. I seem to remember reading that he blames the reunion gigs for sending Rick back to his old wild ways. I know they were no longer friends but I'm sure he'd also want Rick still with us. The friction between them is very prominent on the Dublin 14 release, Rick is hardly near Francis thru the show very little interaction between them at point's. Then during Roadhouse it comes to a point Rossi seems to be in rush and just want's to get the show over. Francis becomes very forceful during Roadhouse Blues IMO just how view his actions on stage kinda rude to Alan his body language is and how he acts towards him near the end of that song. It must have been hard (don't be smutty) for Rossi to see the enthusiasm and fever pitch that the Reunions generated. His reaction had been to to suggest he couldn't see what we were seeing. An insult to lifelong fans who knew what they were witnessing. Not perfect but a joy to behold to see them back together and creating a fabulous sound once more. We had stood by him and the band through thick n' thin. Fighting the band's corner, when they couldn't. His body language during the Shepperton rehearsals and in interviews at the time had been a bit worrying. RP, AL and JC seemed to be naturally happy and at ease with each other again but, for me, there was something about Rossi that seemed to be saying something else. Thought it was a bit sad how he and the management were very keen to say how the second Reunion hadn't generated maximum sales etc. Completely missing the point as to why so many fans had not only turned out for the first Reunion but wanted another go with the second Reunion within a relatively short space of time. Perhaps Alan had been pushing too much after the Reunions for things to continue in some form. Though it is interesting that Rick and John had been keen to continue (Bob Young as well to some degree) even if only in terms of putting out an EP or an album perhaps to say thanks to the fans. Rick had seemed to be in Rossi's pocket and a bit mean where Alan had been concerned in the past but suddenly he had turned and suggesting he would have wanted to continue with Alan and John in some way. It would have been wrong to have dropped Rhino, Andy and Leon suddenly. Though perhaps Rossi could have just gone with the flow and recorded an FF EP/album. Some recognition as to how much the band meant to us and how much the band depended on us. Sales would have ultimately determined how much further they should go. Alan perhaps over estimated potential demand but I doubt they would have made a loss, so to speak. Rossi at least put his perfectionist head on in '13 and '14 and turned in some top performances during the Reunion shows. No idea why he bangs on about improving as musicians and how much better the current band are as musicians. It seems a bit irrelevant in terms of what the tracks from the 70s especially, that make up much of the set, were/are about. Francis seems contradictory by nature. He is happy to put his name to Whisky and beer production but says he can't stand being around drinkers these days! As CG has said it is very sad to see that Francis has fallen out with Alan especially again. Ridiculous really. They have so much shared history and some reconciliation with the Reunions. Childish springs to mind. Last I heard had been that Rossi put the phone down on Alan. Will pick up a copy of Classic rock before making any rash decisions as had intended to see Francis on his talking tour but having second thoughts now. Hopefully Alan may get to publish his book at some time. Though possibly the truth will be somewhere in the middle, whether it is Rossi's version or Alan's version. I will defend his right to put out the album with Hannah and hope it sells well for them as clearly where his heart is now. A shame though that he puts down so much about Quo from the past. Years that meant so much to many of us and gave him the life he enjoys. |
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Post by Gaz on Mar 1, 2019 2:24:57 GMT
The friction between them is very prominent on the Dublin 14 release, Rick is hardly near Francis thru the show very little interaction between them at point's. Then during Roadhouse it comes to a point Rossi seems to be in rush and just want's to get the show over. Francis becomes very forceful during Roadhouse Blues IMO just how view his actions on stage kinda rude to Alan his body language is and how he acts towards him near the end of that song. It must have been hard (don't be smutty) for Rossi to see the enthusiasm and fever pitch that the Reunions generated. His reaction had been to to suggest he couldn't see what we were seeing. An insult to lifelong fans who knew what they were witnessing. Not perfect but a joy to behold to see them back together and creating a fabulous sound once more. We had stood by him and the band through thick n' thin. Fighting the band's corner, when they couldn't. His body language during the Shepperton rehearsals and in interviews at the time had been a bit worrying. RP, AL and JC seemed to be naturally happy and at ease with each other again but, for me, there was something about Rossi that seemed to be saying something else. Thought it was a bit sad how he and the management were very keen to say how the second Reunion hadn't generated maximum sales etc. Completely missing the point as to why so many fans had not only turned out for the first Reunion but wanted another go with the second Reunion within a relatively short space of time. Perhaps Alan had been pushing too much after the Reunions for things to continue in some form. Though it is interesting that Rick and John had been keen to continue (Bob Young as well to some degree) even if only in terms of putting out an EP or an album perhaps to say thanks to the fans. Rick had seemed to be in Rossi's pocket and a bit mean where Alan had been concerned in the past but suddenly he had turned and suggesting he would have wanted to continue with Alan and John in some way. It would have been wrong to have dropped Rhino, Andy and Leon suddenly. Though perhaps Rossi could have just gone with the flow and recorded an FF EP/album. Some recognition as to how much the band meant to us and how much the band depended on us. Sales would have ultimately determined how much further they should go. Alan perhaps over estimated potential demand but I doubt they would have made a loss, so to speak. Rossi at least put his perfectionist head on in '13 and '14 and turned in some top performances during the Reunion shows. No idea why he bangs on about improving as musicians and how much better the current band are as musicians. It seems a bit irrelevant in terms of what the tracks from the 70s especially, that make up much of the set, were/are about. Francis seems contradictory by nature. He is happy to put his name to Whisky and beer production but says he can't stand being around drinkers these days! As CG has said it is very sad to see that Francis has fallen out with Alan especially again. Ridiculous really. They have so much shared history and some reconciliation with the Reunions. Childish springs to mind. Last I heard had been that Rossi put the phone down on Alan. Will pick up a copy of Classic rock before making any rash decisions as had intended to see Francis on his talking tour but having second thoughts now. Hopefully Alan may get to publish his book at some time. Though possibly the truth will be somewhere in the middle, whether it is Rossi's version or Alan's version. I will defend his right to put out the album with Hannah and hope it sells well for them as clearly where his heart is now. A shame though that he puts down so much about Quo from the past. Years that meant so much to many of us and gave him the life he enjoys. Some very good points there, fret. I read ,in that Daily Mail interview with Francis, that looking back he cringes at the thought of how obnoxious and rude he was to people back when Quo were at their peak and on drugs....he obviously has disdain for those of us who pushed Quo to the heights they reached back in the day, along with his dismissive comments about the event which was the FF reunion gigs......has he really changed? |
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Post by paradiseflats on Mar 1, 2019 7:42:14 GMT
I won’t spend ages considering his views. Life’s to short. I gave up on him as an ‘idol’ decades ago.
I will simply say he is wrong. Making thousands of people very happy is always a good thing. The reunion did that. I am forever happy it happened and I know thousands are happy about it to.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Mar 1, 2019 8:26:13 GMT
I won’t spend ages considering his views. Life’s to short. I gave up on him as an ‘idol’ decades ago. I will simply say he is wrong. Making thousands of people very happy is always a good thing. The reunion did that. I am forever happy it happened and I know thousands are happy about it to. Spot on. I gave up trying to understand Francis a long time ago. From his point of view though, probably no good did come of it. Relationships with the other 3 soured, Quo lite business had been good, then dropped off as more fans lost interest having seen the original. Rick was one of those fans... |
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Mar 1, 2019 10:30:55 GMT
Very sad to discover that he's so bitter. I remember hearing him talk about being reunited with Alan in 2010 when he was promoting his solo tour. They were talking regularly by phone. He sounded genuinely pleased they were friends again. And now this.... He's still working and touring. Not sure what he's got to be so upset about. Maybe though, its Alan who wants nothing more to do with him and that is what hurts.Yea I think you have a point there, CG... I think you might! |
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Post by vivfromcov on Mar 1, 2019 11:07:26 GMT
I'll buy the mag to read it from the horse's mouth so to speak but it is sad. I was sort of hoping that Francis might come to the Convention. I know it's unlikely but to have him there with John, Alan and Bob would be wonderful. Not so sure now but maybe a reconcilliation is still possible? Even after the hurtful comments made about the reunions, I think he would be welcomed. We love him really and the comments only hurt because we care so much....
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gav
Veteran Rocker Rollin'
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Favourite Quo Album: On The Level
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Post by gav on Mar 1, 2019 13:33:20 GMT
I get the feeling that, away from the adrenaline and adoration he gets from the crowd playing live, Francis doesn't like Status Quo very much. Doesn't like his former self very much. Too many bad memories. Wishes he'd got that solo career. Critical claim on solely his own terms.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Mar 1, 2019 19:30:42 GMT
I get the feeling that, away from the adrenaline and adoration he gets from the crowd playing live, Francis doesn't like Status Quo very much. Doesn't like his former self very much. Too many bad memories. Wishes he'd got that solo career. Critical claim on solely his own terms.
He always was a glass half empty sort of guy. IN fact he was always a glass half empty and it should have been a bigger glass, too. Everyone thought he was being self deprecating and admired him for it, but in his heart he meant it. Poor old Francis. I shouldn't say that, as he's strong really and has got a lot of what he wanted, but on some level - poor old Francis.
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- Well Francis, - i & many many others thought the reunion shows were absolutely magnificent & a million times better than the merry band of minstrels you have the neck to call Status Quo these days u miserable old bastard!
