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Post by MrWaistcoat on Dec 5, 2017 22:01:59 GMT
The guy is human. Especially on the official SQMB, he really did get stacks of personal abuse, and some of it was awful. Probably from much less than 1% of the fans, but it was there and it got to him. Clearly it still gets to him. I don't blame him for that. But he seems to have totally lost all perspective - he's lashing out "at all the fans who want him dead" but in doing so managing to upset a far larger group of fans who've consistently defended him over the years. It seems to me he's hurting because the fans 5000% preferred the FF. Everyone, including francis, have conceded that the fans made themselves crystal clear. Rhino has never had an audience reaction like that, and he never will - despite many more years in the band than Alan. I think that must be hard to take. Social media can be very misleading. The strongest and loudest voices come to the fore. It may seem that CQ have thousands of fans rabidly defending the band whilst pouring scorn on the FF, and similar has always appeared to be there in reverse. Most fans though either do or did have a foot in both camps, and don't have much to say. If Rhino had that perspective, he'd be more diplomatic I'm sure Of course, he claimed to not read tha boards. Which again has been shown to be not the case. I don’t think any serious minded person would say what he claims about ‘wanting him dead’. It it must be difficult knowing for most people he will always be second best. Whatever his qualities as a song writer, singer and lyricist, he seems u likely to write anything to match Alan’s best work. But it’s the hand he’s been dealt. Despite crowds in the UK collapsing to there worst level since who knows when. There will still be thousands enjoying their night out. There to cheer Rhino and the rest of the band. Most people who still attend probably don’t care who is in the band as long as Francis is there. Some will miss Rick. I try to have perspective when I go to see The Stranglers Im not really bothered who’s in the band, same with many bands whose line ups have changed. Slayer being a case in point, still love them despite the drummer being forced out and guitarist passing away.I pay for a night out. Perhaps and I know it’s different but he should look to Metallica and the replacements for Cliff. They have been respectful to Cliffs legacy but got on with the job. And I guess that’s the difference Edwards has never been accepted at all by a vocal part of the fan base. He knows this. It must bother him. Unlike say Ronnie Wood, he has nothing else to point to, to say this is my work away from the band I have worked for years and years. Good shout re Metallica. The big difference is though that Rhino’s appearance came at a time when the band had been away...and returned with a (shockingly) poppy new image. Rhino copped a lot of the flak for that. Not his fault, obviously. His entry into the band is synonymous with poppy new look and poppy new sound. Until that point, Quo had been a Champions league standard rock band. Hardly surprising the changes were hated by thousands of fans His solo album sold over 5000 copies. By that point he’d become really quite popular with the hardcore fans of those days. Between then and 2010, all he did was play well each night, and do his best to please the fans by co-writing the bands rockiest material in the studio. And doing the tour log. Then the FF tours came. Then he couldn’t give his second solo album away - even though it was well worth a listen Like I say, I think he’s hurting, and I don’t blame him reallly. I think he’s pissed off with the lot of us
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Post by Mac on Dec 5, 2017 22:38:14 GMT
That threw me as well......... so did I go to the last gig or the last gig of the tour in Liverpool last year....... Don't worry, Mac, it's very simple: last year was the Last Night of the Electrics Tour. You went to the last gig of the 2016 LNOTE Tour. But this year, up to Australia, they were still on tour, doing the LNOTE 2017 Tour. But now they're just doing gigs. Plugged In gigs. And Aquostic gigs. But it's not a tour. That's what Rhino says. FFS, that's thrown me even further.........
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 2:33:34 GMT
I see the interview has made its way onto CNC... BUT... it was in the ADMIN section to begin with. Just proves the utter bias for current members of the band by CQ fans because if it was Alan or John saying anything of that ilk it would be up on the site like a shot. No deliberation whatsoever as it would suit the agenda perfectly. Incredulous too that it's being met with the likes of "We live in a free society. Rhino can say what he wants". So... deflecting away from what's been said by referring to the world in general? Wishy-washy p**h. Somebody got stabbed in the street... who cares? There's a war in Nigeria!
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Post by paradiseflats on Dec 6, 2017 6:38:20 GMT
I see the interview has made its way onto CNC... BUT... it was in the ADMIN section to begin with. Just proves the utter bias for current members of the band by CQ fans because if it was Alan or John saying anything of that ilk it would be up on the site like a shot. No deliberation whatsoever as it would suit the agenda perfectly. Incredulous too that it's being met with the likes of "We live in a free society. Rhino can say what he wants". So... deflecting away from what's been said by referring to the world in general? Wishy-washy p**h. Somebody got stabbed in the street... who cares? There's a war in Nigeria! It’s what happens when you follow a band with seemingly no moral compass. You say one thing and do another for years and years. One off means, there will be more. So now the fan base is being told, they are better than ever and a ‘unit’. Some seem to lap this up. So for 30 years they have been going to see a band were not a unit ? Odd well odd. It’s almost they are blaming someone for holding them back. That’s some fans not the band to be clear.
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Post by freewilly on Dec 6, 2017 8:39:44 GMT
It's David Ling's fault according to one poster over on the other forum...
He's an FF fan only and used his bias to influence the reader in this case apparently...
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Post by paradiseflats on Dec 6, 2017 8:56:16 GMT
It's David Ling's fault according to one poster over on the other forum...
He's an FF fan only and used his bias to influence the reader in this case apparently...
Frantic four only... really. So he’s never wrote a positive review about the band post ‘81. Why do they give him so much work then. I also buy Rhino has taken a lot of stick so he can fire back. At people like me, I guess fair enough. He’s called me out in his blog before. When he took offence at me referring to his blog as propaganda. But the dig at John... what’s the purpose. I read we are fans, he’s a professional musician. I could list the more successful musicians than him who thought the gigs were great. At the end of the day, it’s about opinions. He’s entitled to his. I just think he’s been sensationalist so more people will read about his solo band. The one so successful. He has to get tribute bands to his day job to get people through the door.
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Post by freewilly on Dec 6, 2017 9:19:12 GMT
It's David Ling's fault according to one poster over on the other forum...
He's an FF fan only and used his bias to influence the reader in this case apparently...
Frantic four only... really. So he’s never wrote a positive review about the band post ‘81. Why do they give him so much work then. I also buy Rhino has taken a lot of stick so he can fire back. At people like me, I guess fair enough. He’s called me out in his blog before. When he took offence at me referring to his blog as propaganda. But the dig at John... what’s the purpose. I read we are fans, he’s a professional musician. I could list the more successful musicians than him who thought the gigs were great. At the end of the day, it’s about opinions. He’s entitled to his. I just think he’s been sensationalist so more people will read about his solo band. The one so successful. He has to get tribute bands to his day job to get people through the door. There is a difference with that lot...
The person in particular has already stated that they hate Alan's songs, Alan's voice, only liked it at the reunion gigs because it was a change and that he was an angry, violent aggressive drug user, who got violent when he didn't get his own way. Anytime he opens his mouth, he gets labelled bitter by said person over there.
Edwards is being a dick in this interview. It's not even to be argued, he is being a dick!
We all want to eat Alan's shit?! No one likes John?! They were too old to record an album but, you, Francis and Andy aren't?! Alan is a bitter man, despite the fact him and his family were shafted by his friend?! We'd cheer if they got their testicles out?!
As I said, a dick!
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Post by 4th Chord on Dec 6, 2017 9:53:56 GMT
Right.
We'll call it a day there.
Please don't start any new threads on this topic unless it's to discuss something specific and not related to any sort of personal abuse.
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