viza
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Post by viza on Mar 12, 2017 22:32:07 GMT
For sure Down the Dustpipe was a song that changed the direction towards the classic sound. But I would say the pure classic Quo sounds did first appeared on songs like Paper Plane and Don't Waste My Time. Blue For You was the last album with classic Quo sound. Some later tracks have it like Come rock with me/Rockin' on.
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Post by Railroad17 on Mar 13, 2017 1:33:42 GMT
Railroad Blue Eyed Lady 3:03 on Riverside
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Mar 13, 2017 8:33:45 GMT
MK and DOTH were experimental albums, Piledriver was the result.
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Post by Victor on Mar 13, 2017 8:39:35 GMT
Down the Dustpipe Little Lady/Most of the time Riverside
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Post by paradiseflats on Mar 13, 2017 9:01:59 GMT
Down the dust pipe Over and done Ring of a change
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Mar 13, 2017 9:02:13 GMT
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Post by dennis on Mar 13, 2017 9:48:29 GMT
Umleitung - the last minute & four or five seconds signposts the future ...... Paper Plane - Quo arrive on the charts as the beast we would come to know over the next few years! Riverside - even at the time, it already seemed like a sad echo of what they had been
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Post by paradiseflats on Mar 13, 2017 11:10:51 GMT
Umleitung - the last minute & four or five seconds signposts the future ...... Paper Plane - Quo arrive on the charts as the beast we would come to know over the next few years! Riverside - even at the time, it already seemed like a sad echo of what they had been Which the co writer had no part of
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 11:37:12 GMT
Is it Really Me has a slight Cream-esque element to it.
Daughter is a fiskadelic/rock mix. It has never seemed particularly heavy to me though.
So yes, both could be seen as experimental songs of the time even by non-Quo fans - and not typical of the power boogie that was about to become the trademark. But both great songs in their own ways regardless.
The sound first developed obviously on MKGS, was honed further on DOTH with the dropping of the Hammond Organ which had provided a lot of that ethereal late 60's element to the sound, and then became fully fledged on Piledriver.
However, what's also interesting about Piledriver is that even though the trademark rock boogie sound arrives most emphatically, there is still something of an early progressive rock/blues type feel to it. Songs especially like A Year and Unspoken Words typify this. These songs, as brilliant as they are, can't be considered trademark recognisably Quo songs. More is the pity actually imo.
The Hello album finally lost that early retro theme and became much more the definitive rock boogie album. The changes in pace and power of the show-piece rock tracks started in the early albums was completely developed by this album as songs like ROLD and 4500X illustrated. These echoing the likes of BFM on Piledriver, and further back Umleitung on DOTH.
Classic power boogie songs like BEL and Caroline echoed what Paper Plane and further back than that, the great work in progress prototype songs like Mean Girl and Tune To The Music had started previously
The Quo album appears to re-capture once more some of the more progressive themes up to Piledriver, but the process was reversed once more by OTL. However, the OTL album is, imo, the most perfect balance of Quo trademark pace, power and melody.
The BFY album combines some of the heaviness of the Quo album with some of the crisp power-melody of OTL. ITABW, Rain and Mystery Song arguably represent the peak of heaviness of the band that earlier songs like Drifting Away and BFM had identified. So a another milestone there imo.
WSOL single and the RAOTW album were to prove the milestones where heaviness (in the studio) was gradually and erratically ditched to favour attempts to appeal to a wider fan-base
The NTL could be seen as the last album to produce any of the trademark heavier Quo sound, but this process had already begun some years previously.
I think the persistence of the blistering power, pace and volume on stage covered up a lot of these milestones. Personally while I can look back at the peak period of the FF hey-day with the greatest appreciation, I enjoyed the best of both worlds in terms of the gigs carrying on the hey-day legacy (bearing in mind my first gig was the RAOTW tour when the studio sound had just started to change) but also a curiosity with what the band were doing with the studio albums. I was therefore immune and unaware of any the disillusionment with the album sound that many were obviously finding. Indeed much of this only became apparent when first becoming a mb member.
Time has shown that the post 85 period was the full metamorphosis of what had happened in the studio with 1982 and BtB once John left and Alan was feeling more and more alienated. It should have paved the way to a new chapter of Quo as a band in its own right. Unfortunately they never could fully let go of the legacy and despite some very good studio albums, this ultimately proved most detrimental. It took a few decades for those stark difference to be focussed with the reunions.
Surely a most emphatic milestone of all in the differences of sound, style but most especially attitudes between the former and the latter SQ.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Mar 13, 2017 13:11:57 GMT
To be honest I don't remember Quo sounding much like other bands back in the late 60s/early 70s, but maybe I was listening to the wrong bands ... (I mean, except when they were actually covering/nicking ideas from other bands. Then they sounded very like them.)
For me, as a listener, the milestone in the development of the Quo sound as I understand it (remembering that a milestone is a single object that sticks up like a sore thumb) was Down the Dustpipe.
Everything between that and ROATW you could tell was related. (I didn't know the albums, but now that I do, that doesn't change it.)
There was another shift with Accident Prone, which I later found was related to a downhill shift with IYCSTH.
Then ITAN - the album which should have been good, but did not have the Quo sound. I was perplexed. Very perplexed. (I don't count B2B, that was just a Band in a Mess.)
Heavy Traffic was the next step up, but the Quo sound remains intermittent in all albums since, being mainly totally absent. It got left behind when they stopped recording and writing as a band.
The Quo Sound for me has little to do with being heavy, and all to do with the interplay between the musicians, partic the two guitarists. And frankly with not sounding much like anyone else, once they got going.
This possibly isn't as analytic as Gates was hoping for - other people who were closer to the metal can do that, this is a view from a common or garden radio listener who had a Quo fan concealed inside her just waiting for the opportunity to get out.
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Mar 13, 2017 14:10:30 GMT
My Ladies, I applaud thee!
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Post by wolfman on Mar 13, 2017 16:23:50 GMT
well it wont be bula will it..
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Mar 13, 2017 17:38:46 GMT
Also, the blues breakdown at the end of Breaking Away... a true send-off to their 70s sound... sad in a way.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Mar 14, 2017 10:46:05 GMT
Great post Mrs FlittersnoopInteresting what you say about the heaviness. I tend to think that the heaviness is part of the Quo sound. I think the heaviness lends some oomph to the sound that takes it to another level. Some "recent" (!) examples. The song TOY - kind of Quo by numbers, pointless but OK. But an outside producer remixed it, and a heavier single went out. It's much, much better - really quite enjoyable with that extra oomph. And Francis didn't think so, and was very negative about the remix. Pure and simple, he's wrong. I would say the same about the whole HT album - most of the key ingredients to the Quo sound are there - but it's not heavy enough. Rhino made the same point when it was released - so it's not like there was nobody there that wanted heavier. But yes, songs like a year ain't heavy! But they are raw. And after the classic Quo period, raw was something we got starved of. Probably why I loved "you let me down", even though it's not really a great song. Just was amazing to hear them being raw again.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Mar 14, 2017 18:23:55 GMT
Great post Mrs Flittersnoop Interesting what you say about the heaviness. I tend to think that the heaviness is part of the Quo sound. I think the heaviness lends some oomph to the sound that takes it to another level. Some "recent" (!) examples. The song TOY - kind of Quo by numbers, pointless but OK. But an outside producer remixed it, and a heavier single went out. It's much, much better - really quite enjoyable with that extra oomph. And Francis didn't think so, and was very negative about the remix. Pure and simple, he's wrong. I would say the same about the whole HT album - most of the key ingredients to the Quo sound are there - but it's not heavy enough. Rhino made the same point when it was released - so it's not like there was nobody there that wanted heavier. But yes, songs like a year ain't heavy! But they are raw. And after the classic Quo period, raw was something we got starved of. Probably why I loved "you let me down", even though it's not really a great song. Just was amazing to hear them being raw again. Thing is ISOTFC is heavier than HT but I think HT is a better album as the songs are better. I played HT yesterday for the first time in ages and really got into it. ISOTFC had heaviness no doubt but I think it's a bit too loud and compressed. QPQ probably has the best sound of the later albums.
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