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Post by viking55 on Mar 5, 2017 13:00:49 GMT
Ok I am not trying to be funny here but just a clear observation. We now have Robert Ellis selling Ltd edition posters of the band now ! Don't get me wrong it's financially a nice little earner isn't it ! We have JCQ doing predominantly more gigs than they ever did. Tribute bands splashing gig posters all over FB. I think you may get where I am coming from. Is the Francis Rossi issue just certain people having double standards or should I say being selective with the their beliefs ? I assume everyone has got permission from the brand for playing their songs or producing merch ? so SQ ltd will be receiving royalties or whatever ? So They are all paying into Francis pension fund as well. This is just an observation !
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Mar 5, 2017 13:15:09 GMT
What are you observing?
JC Quo have been playing for years... Tribute acts has been around for years... So what? Is it the thing that another tribute entered the scene?
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Post by curiousgirl on Mar 5, 2017 13:32:03 GMT
Like Whoppa, I don't see what your issue is either.
From my perspective, the fans that are upset over Francis continuing to gig with Rhino/Andy plus 2 newbies under the name of Status Quo, are understandably concerned that this isn't the band they started out following. Even if they joined the Frantic two (Rick/Francis) they were the image/brand sold to them.
To equate their grief - for that is what it is - to saying that they're dumb for following the tribute bands instead, is missing the point. From where I sit.
And Francis only has himself to blame for any insults about funding his pension, as that is what he talks about in interview, most of the time.
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Mar 5, 2017 13:52:58 GMT
If the paperwork is done correctly, of course the publisher that holds/owns the work that is played gets paid.... then what happens is another thing. John plays, and if he plays ROLD or FFF he gets paid, to bad eh? (TIC-graemlin here)
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Post by freewilly on Mar 5, 2017 15:19:59 GMT
"Is the Francis Rossi issue just certain people having double standards or should I say being selective with the their beliefs?"
I'm saying nothing... Grim
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Post by viking55 on Mar 5, 2017 15:39:44 GMT
My issue is with people that think everything is acceptable other than Francis Rossi continuing with his part owned brand ! This has nothing to do with grief or Rick Parfitt or even JCQ gigging. I am on about the increasing opportunities for lots of people making money out of the brand Status Quo. Wether it be ltd edition this and that..,yet denying a member of that band the opportunity to continue doing exactly the same...and he part owns the brand !
Absolutely nothing to do with your grief or Rick Parfitt or JC !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 15:52:15 GMT
I doub't tribute bands do it for the money , they aint exactly gonna make a fortune now are they ? same goes for Johns band , they do it because they love it , id love to see Rossi do a tour of pubs playing to less then a hundred people and getting paid peanuts for it , it wouldn't happen .
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Post by viking55 on Mar 5, 2017 16:04:13 GMT
Yeah nothing better than a good old pub gig and I reckon he would be brilliant in n that environment. But your right it, ain't gonna happen with FR. Because he has earned his wings to continue playing City Halls or Arena tours with good support acts if he can continue to put the bums on seats.
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Mar 5, 2017 16:11:23 GMT
My issue is with people that think everything is acceptable other than Francis Rossi continuing with his part owned brand ! This has nothing to do with grief or Rick Parfitt or even JCQ gigging. I am on about the increasing opportunities for lots of people making money out of the brand Status Quo. Wether it be ltd edition this and that..,yet denying a member of that band the opportunity to continue doing exactly the same...and he part owns the brand ! Absolutely nothing to do with your grief or Rick Parfitt or JC ! You can only vote with your feet. A great deal of what "some" thinks about tafkar, he sure did make that part of the fanbase feel that way. I know where I'd put my money, but that's me! If management can't secure the rights to pics, posters and music, then it's up to the remaining shareholders to deal with that. The denying is just a ricochet of the way somebody in the board of current directors of the brand act...... imo.
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Post by cactuspete on Mar 5, 2017 16:46:19 GMT
If you don't like it.
Don't listen or buy it.
What's the problem?
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Post by viking55 on Mar 5, 2017 17:00:22 GMT
If you don't like it. Don't listen or buy it. What's the problem? Can I turn that on it's head then and issue the same statement to those who have an issue with FR. In other words don't comment !
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Post by Quoincidence on Mar 5, 2017 17:25:57 GMT
Robert Ellis followed the band throughout the 70's taking photos of them and has never released most of them and recently through the DEMAND he's doing a Quo book like he's done with AC/DC and the Who... so what if he wants to sell Ltd posters... as others have said, JCQ have been around for years and more people will be going to see them now as they're are the better ALT than going to watch a band that never change their setlist and shouldn't be called Quo.
They're Roberts photos not the bands so they won't be earning anything from them cause they don't own them, JCQ won't be paying into 'Rossis fund' because he plays songs from a band HE WAS IN...
So what exactly is you're issue? or are you trying to stir the pot again.
Thought I'd add that bands pay the photographer to use their photos by the way if you didn't know that
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Post by curiousgirl on Mar 5, 2017 17:43:30 GMT
viking55 Do you actually want a serious answer? I gave you one which from your response tells me that you don't understand or refuse to accept. It seems that others on here do because they've liked it. Of course that doesn't mean that all Quo fans agree with me, they don't. But, as I see it, the reason some fans are upset with Status Quo continuing with only Francis is because for them, it is no longer the same band. And for them, the name means something else. So this version of Quo equates to a tribute band in their eyes. The fact that Francis alone can still fill larger venues doesn't matter to them. That is the point of they're upset. It is about emotion in the end. Its not about intellect or rational reasoning which seems to be your take on things.
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Post by viking55 on Mar 5, 2017 17:56:28 GMT
Ok.... it's an anti- Rossi emotional thing. Thanks for clearing that up. Then really its just a board for kicking off at him then ad he is always wrong.
No it's not stiring the pot Q it's about debating on a MB some VALID points and arguments. Do I not have a valid point ? A MB us for debating isn't it ? Or is only 1 point of view acceptable here ?? Seems to me that if you offer an alternative valid argument here the same people just kick off and shout down the alternative !
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Post by Victor on Mar 5, 2017 18:06:41 GMT
Ok.... it's an anti- Rossi emotional thing. Thanks for clearing that up. Then really its just a board for kicking off at him then ad he is always wrong. No it's not stiring the pot Q it's about debating on a MB some VALID points and arguments. Do I not have a valid point ? A MB us for debating isn't it ? Or is only 1 point of view acceptable here ?? Seems to me that if you offer an alternative valid argument here the same people just kick off and shout down the alternative ! Don't be nonsensical, Viking. There is plenty of room for debating in here. There's a difference between debating and stirring the pot though.
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