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Post by viking55 on Jan 31, 2017 22:22:14 GMT
Yawn yawn guys ! Rossi bashing is getting a bit one dimensional ! Your so far off topic not even a sat nav can get you back.
Haha...I have to laugh at you FW hiding behind your 'im not having a go at Francis' and moaning its me at fault....you just can't resist a dig in e very post....have a look at yourself man....lol.
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Post by wolfman on Jan 31, 2017 22:39:57 GMT
Yawn yawn guys ! Rossi bashing is getting a bit one dimensional ! Your so far off topic not even a sat nav can get you back. Haha...I have to laugh at you FW hiding behind your 'im not having a go at Francis' and moaning its me at fault....you just can't resist a dig in e very post....have a look at yourself man....lol. could I add...ah fuck it I will..when quite a few of us were a young bunch...we went to see this amazing band..STATUS QUO...thee ff if you like..wild rock music...anyway skip a generation are two...now we have.....poppy slush.....rossi should get his head from up his bum...take the plunge...and do the honourable thing and rebrand.... |
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Post by azza200 on Jan 31, 2017 22:45:47 GMT
some names he could use
Francis Rossi's Quo
Francis Rossi and friends
Margherita Quo time
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Feb 1, 2017 0:44:47 GMT
No.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Feb 1, 2017 0:47:34 GMT
Rossi is a hermaphrodite. Leon Cave is an Incubus. Rhino once worked as a chicken sexer in Libya. Nuff's moustache is fake - it's made from the hair of the Tasmanian Devil. Pat Barlow loved it up the arse. Rick wore crotchless Jacob Rees Mogg every day while recording the "On the Level" album. Roy Lynes was the first human/racehorse hybrid. Spud has a large collection of Peruvian fertility dolls. Andy Bown weighs just four ounces. Will those do? Don't you know what inaccurate means..these are all well known facts..everyone knows the story about Lancaster,the super glue,the top lip,the drugs,the zoo and the carnivorous marsupials arse. They may be true, but they are still funny. I just spat tea. But Andy includes the bike. |
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Post by markquo on Feb 1, 2017 13:57:28 GMT
Back on topic(all these insults are tedious to read),I would like to think Rossi would do the honourable thing and go out as FRQ purely out of respect to Rick and the legacy of the band or what's left of it
Cheers
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 16:36:23 GMT
some names he could use Francis Rossi's Quo Francis Rossi and friends Margherita Quo time I don't even like Margarita pizzas - tasteless and no substance. |
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Post by jaynieeee on Feb 2, 2017 21:43:40 GMT
I don't think so and I don't think Lyndsay is that daft to keep bad mouthing Rick. It would bite the hand that feeds her so to speak. As if Status Quo LTD were to cease. There would be no payments to Rick's estate. They'd be division of assets in that case, which may or may not be to her financial advantage. Status Quo is a limited company so doesn't necessary need to be divided up/sold off to realise half of it. For private limited companies there is often clause/agreement that shares have to be offered to other shareholders first/sold to other shareholders. How much would they be worth? Assets in company divided by number of shares? Above plus premium to compensate for future loyalties and use of Status Quo name? Just how much is the Quo name worth without RP/with just FR? I hope Rick got his affairs in order before he passed away, if just for the sake of the two young ones. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 22:02:04 GMT
All this talk of Ricks finances being a mess and him being skint is all hogwash! Yes, there will be short term financial problems as his estate will be a long way off being granted probate, until then family will have no access to his money. Ricks finances were tied up in Spain as well as the UK so that will be an added complication.
From experience, it will take TWO YEARS at the minimum until his estate is granted probate and is able to be 'divid up', (my fathers compartivly organised estate took nearly a year and he wasn't a rock star).
In the short term I would expect Duroc to take care of Lyndsey & the kids, in the long term they will be provided for. Given the fact that she looked after Ricks finances I find it very strange for her to say she has been 'cut out' of his will, I also find it strange that this was published in a rag so soon after the funeral, it must have been written BEFORE the official reading of the will.
As for future income, every time a song Rick has written is performed live by the current band his estate will get paid a performance royalty, every time a record is sold his estate gets a sales royalty, every time a song he has written gets played on the radio/tv/etc. his estate will get a royalty. Ricks estate will have a very large income for many many years to come.
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Post by freewilly on Feb 2, 2017 22:14:57 GMT
All this talk of Ricks finances being a mess and him being skint is all hogwash! Yes, there will be short term financial problems as his estate will be a long way off being granted probate, until then family will have no access to his money. Ricks finances were tied up in Spain as well as the UK so that will be an added complication. From experience, it will take TWO YEARS at the minimum until his estate is granted probate and is able to be 'divid up', (my fathers compartivly organised estate took nearly a year and he wasn't a rock star). In the short term I would expect Duroc to take care of Lyndsey & the kids, in the long term they will be provided for. Given the fact that she looked after Ricks finances I find it very strange for her to say she has been 'cut out' of his will, I also find it strange that this was published in a rag so soon after the funeral, it must have been written BEFORE the official reading of the will. As for future income, every time a song Rick has written is performed live by the current band his estate will get paid a performance royalty, every time a record is sold his estate gets a sales royalty, every time a song he has written gets played on the radio/tv/etc. his estate will get a royalty. Ricks estate will have a very large income for many many years to come. Fucking hell......I actually agree with you. Makes ya think don't it? |
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Post by jaynieeee on Feb 2, 2017 22:24:11 GMT
...........As for future income, every time a song Rick has written is performed live by the current band his estate will get paid a performance royalty, every time a record is sold his estate gets a sales royalty, every time a song he has written gets played on the radio/tv/etc. his estate will get a royalty. Ricks estate will have a very large income for many many years to come. Depends who holds the royalty rights |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2017 11:00:33 GMT
...........As for future income, every time a song Rick has written is performed live by the current band his estate will get paid a performance royalty, every time a record is sold his estate gets a sales royalty, every time a song he has written gets played on the radio/tv/etc. his estate will get a royalty. Ricks estate will have a very large income for many many years to come. Depends who holds the royalty rights Rick (unlike Alan) never sold his publishing so his estate will still get all his royalties. From memory, the royalties for the performance of recordings featuring the artist(s) (radio play, tv play, advertising, etc) last for 50 years after the artist(s) die, after which they become PPL free.
Licensing, publishing, and 'who owns what' is very complicated and generally dependant on what was agreed at the time the initial record contracts were signed. Contracts signed in the 50's, 60's, 70's were very record company biased and particularly unkind to the artists, hence the many high profile court cases over 'lost' royalties. Later deals got much better to the point its now common place for some artists to own the original recordings (as they were self financed) and licence them to a record company for a period of years.
When these licences end the recordings revert back to the artist and this is the reason you see re-releases of older albums on different labels to the ones they were first released on, (the current releases on Demon being an example).
Quos Vertigo product up to 1985 was owned by the label, though it may well revert back to the artists after a period of 99 years. Army onwards it will have been different (though Army may have been the last album on the old Vertigo deal if Francis is to be believed).
In the Simon Porter time of management Status Quo have been a limited company that has owned all their recordings, both Francis and Rick are/were limited companies in their own right (as is Rhino, Bob Young, etc), so everything they have recorded and written is owned by/administered by their individual companies - this is tax efficient BUT also ensures ownership (and right to royalties) stays with the artist concerned.
This is one of the many reasons why it will take a long long time to achieve probate (and ultimately divi up time) on Ricks estate.
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Post by madtom on Feb 3, 2017 12:44:07 GMT
@billybragg
I think it's 50 years from the date of the recording and not 50 years from the artist's death. I seem to remember Sir Cliff campaigning to get this increased a while back as he was about to stop getting royalties from his earlier stuff.
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Post by freewilly on Feb 3, 2017 13:30:22 GMT
@billybragg I think it's 50 years from the date of the recording and not 50 years from the artist's death. I seem to remember Sir Cliff campaigning to get this increased a while back as he was about to stop getting royalties from his earlier stuff. His only source of income then?  |
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Post by jaynieeee on Feb 3, 2017 19:58:01 GMT
@billybragg I think it's 50 years from the date of the recording and not 50 years from the artist's death. I seem to remember Sir Cliff campaigning to get this increased a while back as he was about to stop getting royalties from his earlier stuff. Used to be 70 years after death for composers & 50 years for recordings and you're right about Sir Cliff he did get it changed now to 70 years after recording |
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