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Post by paradiseflats on Oct 23, 2016 10:43:43 GMT
Does he have a point?
When I heard the singles off In the Army Now, or at least Rollin home and Red Sky I thought they were canny. But for me I had gone to see them live and it wasn't the same. I heard the rest of the album and thought it was shite.
I heard bits and pieces after that but I was done with Status Quo. Years later around UTI I gave it another go. I liked the album but live they were still a bit fast. When Matt joined it made a huge difference live.
I decided to give the albums I had missed a try. They just confirmed what I thought mostly utter tripe. Bits and pieces are ok. But it wasn't for me. Life's to short to listen to music your not keen on. So I guess he has a point I didn't give it a go at the time but even if I had it isn't for me.
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Post by dennis on Oct 23, 2016 10:54:29 GMT
He may have a point, didn't a fair few of Rick's songs end up as b-sides rather than album tracks due to them being a bit too rocky for Rossi's liking?
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Post by markquo on Oct 23, 2016 13:02:34 GMT
There were a few decent enough album tracks but the majority weren't fit to be released under the Quo name Cheers
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Post by sincity on Oct 23, 2016 13:21:02 GMT
My opinion for what its worth is that whole period could be condensed into 1 average/decent 8 track album & to be fair aside from HT (which i thought was a decent effort & a return to some sort of credability) i pretty much feel the same about the product since.
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Post by gentlemanjoe on Oct 23, 2016 17:46:53 GMT
Well they were given a chance in that they were released as Quo albums. And that goes back from Back to Back.
They all proved to be tripe(apart from Who Gets the Love which was brilliant).
I couldn't make one decent album out of the rest its that bad.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 18:35:54 GMT
Hi All, It was the band who released the music they must have thought they were the better tracks off the albums for that to of happened, unless he trying to say it wasn't down to him ? FR must of realised they wre chancing teir arm by releasing softer poprock music. If a band releases poor output then what can he expect having said all this the band were trying to survive in whatever era.
What's to say if Quo had carried on releasing pure rock would they still be around or been as successful as their FF days ? If's/But's and maybe's are all fine but you have to take into account and look in each era at the Charts/Fads/Styles/Bands both of a similar era to Quo and new generations of rock bands, let alone all the sub genres of rock that splintered from what was around over those eras.
To be honest Quo were trying to stay afloat at difficult times, as fans like myself and I dare say many who are reading this discovered heavier bands and bought their albums instead, getting into other music tastes etc.etc. In the end you move on if the band you are a fan of doesn't and you end you just buy what you want of that band. Personally I have bought all the studio albums but can understand why many never have and we are truly listening to the last gasps of this once giant of bands die sadly.....
Geoff.
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Post by kachunk on Oct 23, 2016 19:22:14 GMT
Hi All, It was the band who released the music they must have thought they were the better tracks off the albums for that to of happened, unless he trying to say it wasn't down to him ? FR must of realised they wre chancing teir arm by releasing softer poprock music. If a band releases poor output then what can he expect having said all this the band were trying to survive in whatever era.
What's to say if Quo had carried on releasing pure rock would they still be around or been as successful as their FF days ? If's/But's and maybe's are all fine but you have to take into account and look in each era at the Charts/Fads/Styles/Bands both of a similar era to Quo and new generations of rock bands, let alone all the sub genres of rock that splintered from what was around over those eras.
To be honest Quo were trying to stay afloat at difficult times, as fans like myself and I dare say many who are reading this discovered heavier bands and bought their albums instead, getting into other music tastes etc.etc. In the end you move on if the band you are a fan of doesn't and you end you just buy what you want of that band. Personally I have bought all the studio albums but can understand why many never have and we are truly listening to the last gasps of this once giant of bands die sadly.....
Geoff. I don't think that the FF could have been as successful in the mid-'80's if they'd have stayed together. Rock music was passé by the mid-'80's where as Metal wasn't.Guitar music became huge again around 1992/3 and had the FF kept on going and stuck to their principles,they perhaps would have had a rejuvenated reputation and certainly some credibility amongst the younger crowd. RAOTW & IYCSTH were done in that style and produced that way largely due to record company pressure to break America. From 1+9+8+2 onwards,it was a deliberate decision from the band,or one of them in particular,to become a soft rock/M.O.R band,mainly because one insecure show off was desperate to show the public and other artists that he was so much more than that bloke who does the songs with three chords. Even before the end of the '80's,Quo's record sales had paid the price for this decision.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 19:48:08 GMT
They may not have been given a chance by FF fans, but the general public didn't take to them that much either.
The band found a new audience with ITAN, had a proper video with no faffing about. Then followed that up with cheap and tacky Dreamin'. Still no lessons learned, teamed up with Griff Rhys Jones for a nothing video. PR wasn't given a chance by the record company, RTYD did alright, so no idea why Rossi thinks they weren't give a chance by fans.
CGYM and IDMI were completely the wrong choices for lead singles. Again, the videos were s**t.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Oct 23, 2016 21:31:29 GMT
This era of Quo I grew up with. Personally the ITAN and AC albums bring back great memories of my childhood so I love them still to this day. Though I can understand why older fans do not like them.
WGTL for example is a classic piece of 80s pop and if it had been done by another band it would have been a big hit. PR I did not really like too much as I heard it after RTYD. Record company stuffed up the promotion for that and I did not know it was out. I still think if The Power Of Rock had been released as the first single it would have been a hit.
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Post by dennis on Oct 23, 2016 21:47:29 GMT
Rossi himself hasn't given post '81 material much of a look in over the years either. Instead of evolving as new material has been released, the live set has been consistently dominated by material from '70-'81, & the early '70s in particular. If he doesn't show much faith in his output how can he expect anybody else to be impressed.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Oct 23, 2016 21:59:30 GMT
Rossi himself hasn't given post '81 material much of a look in over the years either. Instead of evolving as new material has been released, the live set has been consistently dominated by material from '70-'81, & the early '70s in particular. If he doesn't show much faith in his output how can he expect anybody else to be impressed. True he has said how he hates AC these days. Heavy Traffic was the only album where they tried to make a difference to the set and get the songs to stay. Which they did but for too bloody long now.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Oct 23, 2016 22:04:14 GMT
He may have a point, didn't a fair few of Rick's songs end up as b-sides rather than album tracks due to them being a bit too rocky for Rossi's liking? Not sure about the rocky bit, but most of those 86 B sides are the unreleased Rick solo songs. Without Francis so they were never going to go on a full Quo album.
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Post by kachunk on Oct 23, 2016 22:37:26 GMT
He may have a point, didn't a fair few of Rick's songs end up as b-sides rather than album tracks due to them being a bit too rocky for Rossi's liking? Not sure about the rocky bit, but most of those 86 B sides are the unreleased Rick solo songs. Without Francis so they were never going to go on a full Quo album. True,but Francis had no qualms about putting tracks like Jealousy and GDTT on albums,even though no other Quo member played on them.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Oct 24, 2016 6:44:54 GMT
I don't think that the FF could have been as successful in the mid-'80's if they'd have stayed together. Rock music was passé by the mid-'80's where as Metal wasn't.Guitar music became huge again around 1992/3 and had the FF kept on going and stuck to their principles,they perhaps would have had a rejuvenated reputation and certainly some credibility amongst the younger crowd. RAOTW & IYCSTH were done in that style and produced that way largely due to record company pressure to break America. From 1+9+8+2 onwards,it was a deliberate decision from the band,or one of them in particular,to become a soft rock/M.O.R band,mainly because one insecure show off was desperate to show the public and other artists that he was so much more than that bloke who does the songs with three chords. Even before the end of the '80's,Quo's record sales had paid the price for this decision. I think FR agreed with you during the 80's. Remember a late 80's interview where he said that rock fans "are into harder stuff now" My take is a little different Quo had the perfect thing going in the early to mid 80's: a rock audience / dedicated fanbase buying the albums and getting the singles into the charts. Genuine crossover into the mainstream/pop world via the singles/airplay and TV appearances. Take the NTL album - it was accepted by the rock (and metal!) world, yet the band covered it's tracks with SYBIL and got away with it. When rock went metal in the early 80's, Quo won fans from this genre. Rock was deadish 83-87, but Quo had a huge number of hits during this time and we agree that they hugely harmed themselves by trashing it's fanbase during this time Metal was big again by the late 80's - and although they weren't metal, the likes of Guns n Roses and Black Crowes were huge, and huge in the metal scene. Again, had Quo stayed true to it's 70's sound, they would have continued to win new fans. As it was, the band had become a joke in the rock world My point is that Quo had proved with punk that they could survive musical fashions and trends - all they needed to do was keep fans happy, keep the commercial (not poppy) singles coming, and keep the live heaviness going. By 1988, the were failing on all three fronts.
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Post by kiwipom on Oct 24, 2016 9:51:06 GMT
The songs weren't "given a fair chance" for one reason - most were "beige" and instantly forgettable I can recall virtually every album track from the 70 to 81 albums..... .....from 82 until the present day, for the most part, it's difficult to recall which insipid track was on which album
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